sixteen-bit
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Can you use a cheat device to enable tate like raiden project?
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Can you use a cheat device to enable tate like raiden project?
It has a full tate mode. Plays really well, too. So long ad you are used to the somewhat awkward way of controlling. That hump only takes about an hour to get over. I'm speaking of the remake release (polygons) that is a bit like the GCN release.
Dash Kappei
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Do you guys know if he plans to port the game on other platforms?
Oh hey, looks like another proto has been dumped recently: Hammer Away, an arcade helicopter vert by Santos. It looks pretty neat, too!
Dash Kappei
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Oh I know, it's for convenience sake (I'd easily triple dip) and to give the game more recognition.
I wonder why he doesn't do a quick port to the X86 consoles... I hope it's cause he's working on a successor.
gunstarhero
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Meant to post this earlier - looks pretty cool! I thought I read it was Sega though?
Sega published, Santos developed.
sixteen-bit
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#TheStruggle
Haha, that picture is awesome.
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Jotamide
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Today I've reached the conclusion that Ketsui is unfair-difficult, almost Pink Sweets level. The fact that the center of the ship doesn't "glow" or isn't distinctive from the rest of the ship makes matters so much worse.
SOME-MIST
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actually been working on a ketsui clear myself (along with a loop run of progear) and it becomes much easier once you start to learn where the larger enemies spawn beyond stage 3. currently working on getting to stage 5 consistently on 1 credit (and getting that stage 3 1-up from the midboss ship always helps). learn their spawn points and focus them down asap.
it became a bit less intimating when I actually saw it looped in person during the chicago shmupsmeets which is originally what got me interested in dedicating time to the game.
pink sweets on the other hand... and it's 7 stages is way too hard to swallow.
it became a bit less intimating when I actually saw it looped in person during the chicago shmupsmeets which is originally what got me interested in dedicating time to the game.
pink sweets on the other hand... and it's 7 stages is way too hard to swallow.
GalacticAE
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In Crimzon Clover do you wanna always be holding both fire and lock on all the time? I know it slows your ship so is it more of a movement speed button?
Do you guys like to use octogates?
Do you guys like to use octogates?
Blackbird@Degica
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Getting lock-on shots is actually really important to Crimzon Clover's scoring system. Every time you destroy something with the lock shot, you get a multiplier based on how many targets you were locked on to. The multiplier scales up to 12.8x during double break mode. Destroying enemies with a full lock also gives you bonus break generation.
Careful use of lock shots will help you out a lot.
Careful use of lock shots will help you out a lot.
no they are butt
SOME-MIST
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I have two LS-56s in my astro city.... one has a square gate and one has an octagonal gate. I personally prefer the octagonal. other shmuppers that I've had over to my place seem to like the square + ls56 combo. I really think it's all personal preference.
I finally got a Hammer Away Rom running in some fixed version of MAME
[MAME-20141104-x64].
It's alright I guess, nothing spectacular. At least it's playable.
Now according to a post on shmups.com, MAME 0.156 is supposed to be out on November 26th barring any delays.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52096&start=60
[MAME-20141104-x64].
It's alright I guess, nothing spectacular. At least it's playable.
Now according to a post on shmups.com, MAME 0.156 is supposed to be out on November 26th barring any delays.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=52096&start=60
SerTapTap
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Bwahaha. I need a mounting thingy so I can swivel one of my monitors for vert shmups. I've been too lazy...
PepsimanVsJoe
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QP Shooting is actually pretty good I think.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pepsimanvsjoe/recommended/316600
EDIT: Yeah I went with a gimmick. I'm trying to wean myself off of the word "bullet" when reviewing 2D shooters.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/pepsimanvsjoe/recommended/316600
EDIT: Yeah I went with a gimmick. I'm trying to wean myself off of the word "bullet" when reviewing 2D shooters.
It's the cockpit or thereabouts. I've never had a problem with it, but that might be because the hit box marker was a later thing iirc (at least with Cave). Plus the ship/bullet hit boxes seem tiny as hell, along with patterns aren't as crazy dense as some of their other games. Not that it doesn't get dense, but I guess I'd say the difficulty is more in the speed and/or complexity of the patterns.
1-4 isn't too bad, and yeah as far as survival stage 4 becomes a lot easier when you know the enemy placements. I'd also suggest identifying particularly hard parts as possible bomb points, not necessarily to bomb every time but just to be prepared if things don't go to plan. Like the last part with two big ass helicopters.
Stage 5 is just a massive bitch though. I've seen it done well at meets but the few times I've cleared it's just been crazy reactive dodging.
Use what you prefer. If you're not sure it's a few bucks to try a gate, or whatever other mods (like spring or actuator).
I went to Retrobarcelona yesterday and look what they brought there:
I almost had a heart attack, it was stuck in one of the convention's corners, seemingly unattended. First time I've played it on an arcade cabinet, what a blast!
I almost had a heart attack, it was stuck in one of the convention's corners, seemingly unattended. First time I've played it on an arcade cabinet, what a blast!
GalacticAE
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yea i was thinking that maybe you have to watch for the lock on multiplier at the bottom all the time.
Blackbird@Degica
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If you listen closely, there is actually a "click" that lets you know when you have locked on to the maximum number of targets.
SOME-MIST
Member
If you play for score (or even for a 1CC) it plays a lot like ketsui (lock on shot/proximity multiplier) which is what I love.
many of the best competitive shmups are by people who are actually good at the genre... (i.e. yagawa) and crimzon clover is no exception. crimzon clover was created by yotsubane (by himself) over the course of 5 years while he was going to school and it's a love letter to the genre that he's so fond of. if you look at scores arcadia (official shooting game high scores), you'll see him on there as clover-tac, world record holder for esp ra.de. He's also a superplayer that playtests shmups for other companies (like dodonpachi daioujou for PS2) and he has some really interesting interviews (like his one with famitsu)...if you're interested in checking 'em out. it's made by him for people who absolutely love the genre like he does.
from a gameplay perspective, you can tell it's created by someone who knows shooting games by the tightness/responsiveness of the controls, the elegant bullet spreads, to the finely tuned difficulty. it's very aesthetically pleasing when you can get some insane break modes going too. probably not for everyone, but by far one of my favorite doujin shmups next to cho ren sha 68k
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Jotamide
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Paid in full!
kinda want it but already own the milestone 2 collection. besides being able to use my 360 sticks, what makes this one different?
also, please post your impressions when you get it
I'm just hoping for better image quality than the Wii releases. And sticks and arcade playback. I think it has some mashup stuff...like ability to use different ships across different games or something. Not really sure as there has not been much on the game. I'm just happy it released!
Hopefully they ship tomorrow. By chance I might get it on Saturday then.
Blackbird@Degica
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Really? Pixelated as it is, I think Crimzon Clover's graphics compare very favorably to other indie shmups. Gameplay is where it's at though, and CC has fantastic gameplay. The scoring system is enjoyable and deep, the game has very clear visual feedback for success, there are lots of modes for different player skill levels, the boss fights are memorable and well designed, and so on.
If you haven't played the game before, I strongly recommend at least trying it before writing it off.
Wonko_C
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I'm with all the others here: Crimzon Clover didn't look like much to me and at first I didn't like it, but it feels a lot like a Cave shooter once you get into it.
Edit: but what really hooked me in was the Break Mode. Its nothing new (Dodonpachi Resurrection, Danmaku Unlimited 2, etc) but it's so well done here it feels like CC invented it.
Edit: but what really hooked me in was the Break Mode. Its nothing new (Dodonpachi Resurrection, Danmaku Unlimited 2, etc) but it's so well done here it feels like CC invented it.
shaowebb
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Crimzon Clover is amazing. Its got a rhythm to it for scoring, a real challenge, great patterns, great soundtrack and a real sense of reward to it. If I screw up I always feel like it was me and not the game. It puts emphasis on good old fashion dodging, and akin to Dodonpachi setting up your spots to try for Double Break Mode score rushes.
In other words its not about splashing the screen in crazy CG , Voxels explosions, or Particle emitter flashiness. Its about solid gameplay above all else and is a tribute to the best of the best arcade shmups ever made.
Getting into this game is like finally saying you actually get shmups.
In other words its not about splashing the screen in crazy CG , Voxels explosions, or Particle emitter flashiness. Its about solid gameplay above all else and is a tribute to the best of the best arcade shmups ever made.
Getting into this game is like finally saying you actually get shmups.
sixteen-bit
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JP Raiden Fighters Aces got kinda pricey, huh?
(sealed)
Bassmastergeneral
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JP Raiden Fighters Aces got kinda pricey, huh?
(sealed)
Wow the North American version is stacked up in the walmart bargain bin last I checked. Even the jp used price is crazy. Great game though.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Crimzon Clover's finally coming out on GOG this week (December 4th.) So if you want that game DRM-free... well, that'll be your chance.
Wonko_C
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I'd say Astebreed works best with a regular controller, it even has analog movement. But it can be played with an arcade stick just fine.
sixteen-bit
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That box art is cool as heck
Full color manual and disc art too. Quite a nice late release! And has english writing on the spine. Cool little inexpensive release. Not sure about the actual games, though.
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Jotamide
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Reading the impressions from the shmups forum, apparently the collection is crap. No tate mode alone makes it a complete disaster for me. Sorry for raining in your parade but I also preordered so I'm stuck with it too.
sixteen-bit
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how do you forget to include tate?
Reading the impressions from the shmups forum, apparently the collection is crap. No tate mode alone makes it a complete disaster for me. Sorry for raining in your parade but I also preordered so I'm stuck with it too.
No parade being rained on. It would have been nice but I'll just play this on a standard HDTV. I've got all kinds of displays and can be flexible. I'm about ready to put it in and check it out finally!
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Jotamide
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Especially when the Wii collection apparently did have it, you just had to input the Konami code to unlock tate controls.
cj_iwakura
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I love Radio Allergy, so I can vouch for that.
I really do think I'm gonna like this set. The one that will get me finally playing the Milestone games. Super excited. Been waiting months for this release!
And hooked it up. I'm loving the quality...way better than the smeary Wii sets. Super arcadey. Better that it is all 4:3 since some of the games are in that format...and the wallpapers are very sweet. Great addition to the 360 shooter library!
It is pretty damn competent. Just saying. Nice set. Far better than the janky Wii releases. I'm guessing on par with the DC titles. Beautiful set. Stoked as all hell with it. The joke are the 3DS minis from earlier this year.
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