Fighting Games Weekly | Nov 10-16 | Frauds Among Us
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hitsugi
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i was looking forward to a game without viper/seth/fuerte
Don't we still need to do USF4: Turbo? Those 3 would be the star characters.
I've seen something similar with Hyde's rekkas. You end rekkas, CS, and get a high/low because you're in the air and they're in blockstun. Merkava's CS mixup seems a lot harder to see though.
Yes, you are clearly the expert on this seeing as you havent played the series since Tekken 3.
These transitions all had significant changes.
Tekken 2 --> Tekken 3
Tekken 3 --> TTT (the tag system being a new system for the franchise)
TTT --> Tekken 4 - T4 really changed up a lot of stuff.
Tekken 5 and Tekken 6 played it safe thanks to Tekken 4 imbalances.
TTT2 was more feature intensive thanks to being a tag game and introducing new tag features
Ok. I never disagreed with that. Tekken has been losing popularity post T5
R. If you've been following my posts that much, then it's clear I only frequent this forum for Tekken and not much else.
Coffeeling
Member
I'm more concerned about Seth and El ****.
I'm hoping better walkspeeds and less bog-down mechanics. I also hope they implement input shortcuts in a saner way.
Will they be running this version at Apex or will they use an older one to keep it fair for the players?
Coffeeling
Member
Project M will not be at Apex. And yes, a bunch of people went completely apeshit when that was announced.
CountBlack
Member
I understand he's frustrated but there is no need to lower yourself with the comments he made, just makes him look like a 5 year old who just learned what profanity is.
Edit:
By profanity I mean his coarse language throughout the first few minutes, the rest is understandable.
He'll leave just like Inafune once he's fed up with Capcom. They've lost so match talent throughout the years just cause they suck as a company.
Pretty hype for the update, found it kind of useless that they worked on the single players stuff, I certainly won't be using those features but I might give it a look. Pretty happy Ganon is getting his Ocarina of time look, GOAT costume for him. Plus, balances should be hype this time around looking at G&W's recovery speed.
MiniBossBattle
Member
Count went past moe and is now emoji.
RockTurtle
Member
i was looking forward to a game without viper/seth/fuerte
no KOF for you!
PureYeti
Member
The EX moves and Super moves were also 3rd Strike lifted, and I think it caused some balance issues. The one thing I liked was the new quick step- which was DM from VF.
I agree if they got more time, I think some of the issues would be less, though my fundamental complaints with just guard and balance would probably still have happened.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Uhhh no
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Danger!
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I love me some clashes
It's when shit get's truly anime
Edit: I just realized that BBCP one is all the fights from the story mode xD
Coffeeling
Member
i was looking forward to a game without viper/seth/fuerte
There's a ton of games out there without Viper/Seth/Fuerte. They're fun as hell too ^__^
irfaanator
Banned
mmmmmmmmmm. that music
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Coffeeling
Member
It's different and you know it
Stuff that'd annoy the shit out of me in SF just makes me shrug in crazier games. Probably because they're built around that and it feels natural instead of inserting shit that characters weren't designed to handle into a game and adding shoe skid noises.
He is an inspiration. It's also depressing to know I'll never be half as good ;__;
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
It's different and you know it
Stuff that'd annoy the shit out of me in SF just makes me shrug in crazier games. Probably because they're built around that and it feels natural instead of inserting shit that characters weren't designed to handle into a game and adding shoe skid noises.
Oh come on don't tell me the joke went over your head?
Lets assume someone has really ghetto internet. How would you summarise what Watson said for such a person?
Coffeeling
Member
Nah, but felt like I had to write that instead of Kappa anyway.
That the fun of fighting games is from playing, not spectating.
I'm surprised we got away with it for this long, frankly.
It's a production, a show, and we're watching. Should we not pay for movies, the theatre, etc.?
I think it being free to begin with sets a precedent with how media is handled today. I mean some people get really pissy over YouTube ads still. I think people would rather see the producers invest before they buy in.
I think it's weird when people get upset over entertainment trying to turn a profit in any manner, but part of that is because you can have a giggle scrolling through a twitter or vine feed easily nowadays.
I'd probably pay money to watch EVO. But your average event/major? I'm not quite sure what that money will get me. More reason for benefits to be integrated into games. I think Topanga and Capcom Cup both have in-game unlockables right?
I take my statement back then, if I'm understanding your post accurately, I agree with your reasoning. My only issue is tournaments charging more than what they should. Luckily enough the most I've been charged was $20, which I don't mind paying but still struggle paying since its just confusing, spectators are doing nothing but spectating. If food was being offered then I wouldn't say anything but they just provide space that the hotel/venue let them rent for the days of the tournament!
Big N is a sponsor. I forgot who said it on Twitter, maybe a TO (not too sure), that something big happened and that's all he could say on the matter of PM being removed from the tournament lineup.
Hmm. So is it not allowed at the venue at all? Side-Tournaments maybe (does Apex even do side tournaments lol)?
5 or 10 dollars is a good price for regular majors. increased traffic also helps out people paying for booths as well.
Entertainment is now an opiate of the masses. People get pissy when they don't get their free drugs.
No need to take anything back. I do agree with your point about finding a fair market value, but that's only going to happen as more tournaments go on and charge money for spectator fees; you'll have a more educated consumer which will respond with their wallet, which will ultimately have an impact on pricing.
FWIW, given what I've seen for other events of this nature (TI4 had VIP seating for $500, for example), I think that the Capcom Cup VIP package is priced well. I generally like the balance they're striking between introducing new models into the FGC (not new outside of the FGC mind you) and how they're priced for the consumer.
Alex Stryfe (sp?)
That's the main TO for Apex.
Also, is it a surprise that if Nintendo is on board, you wouldn't see Project M?
On a somewhat related note, the trailer for 3.5 looks great, but then I'm saddened by the fact that as Smash 4 approaches and Nintendo gets more involved in the scene, we may see it's presence diminished significantly.
There was some discussion on here, if I'm not mistaken, about PM being done in salty suites or on the side. I'm pretty sure it'll be fine, Nintendo didn't make any big headlines about PM and spoke about it behind closed doors with the TO's. Issue is, if Nintendo is seen as a sponsor for a tournament that has a modded game of a very popular franchise, it could spell some legal trouble for Nintendo with others trying to emulate those actions of the PM crew.
Pricing will be figured out eventually, I just don't feel comfortable with people who don't have a lot of experience in doing business handling money cause mistakes occur more frequently that way. Not that I have anything against people who spend their time and money hosting tournaments, its just I wish more capable people (who aren't MLG) to do it, luckily Capcom is doing the whole pro tour thing at the end of the year. The tweet was posted somewhere around here but yeah, Nintendo sponsoring Apex is great for the scene since Nintendo has finally recognized them but PM will certainly diminish in tournament showings if Nintendo keeps on sponsoring Smash tournaments. I think Nintendo might just sponsor the more popular events like Big House, Apex, EVO (sour taste in my mouth), etc.
What is this "danger" thing?
It's the japanese VA (of Millia) that I don't want, but yeah I imagine there would be an option to choose language tracks.
Btw I dug this answer by you(?). Don't ask me how I stumbled upon it, 'coz I don't even remember at this point, lol. I should declare browser tab bankruptcy, it is getting out of hand
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Chance on clash, then every hit is a fatal counter
I always find it really silly when I'm watching a video and it happens lol. The best is when two characters meet each other in mid-air and start clashing on each other's j.P mash or whatever.
Edit: Lol found one. http://youtu.be/4GyZNl-RLRw?t=5m33s
Magna_Mixalis
Member
Sorry to astroturf, but it seems we aren't screaming loud enough about GG in general...
Yes, the game is dual audio. No, it's not DLC.
As for the Project M thing, a game that repurposes copyrighted code/art assets and requires players to override/hack the security of a console to play, people are genuinely confused/angry that Nintendo might have a problem with it?
Seriously?
Those people need to be praying to their lord and savior Shigeru Miyamoto every night that Ninty hasn't curb-stomped the entire enterprise. To be perfectly blunt, NCL is being far more tolerant that anybody has a right to expect, and to throw scream-y tantrums and threaten folks with death (what's with the FGC and death threats, anyway?) because Nintendo might want their shiny new game to take precedence over a ROM hack of a 10 year old game is the very definition of being entitled.
Yes, the game is dual audio. No, it's not DLC.
As for the Project M thing, a game that repurposes copyrighted code/art assets and requires players to override/hack the security of a console to play, people are genuinely confused/angry that Nintendo might have a problem with it?
Seriously?
Those people need to be praying to their lord and savior Shigeru Miyamoto every night that Ninty hasn't curb-stomped the entire enterprise. To be perfectly blunt, NCL is being far more tolerant that anybody has a right to expect, and to throw scream-y tantrums and threaten folks with death (what's with the FGC and death threats, anyway?) because Nintendo might want their shiny new game to take precedence over a ROM hack of a 10 year old game is the very definition of being entitled.
Why are you singling out the FGC? You'll find death threats from any community if a decision that negatively impacts the community is made by a group of people/company. It's much easier to find those kind of comments due to Twitter/Youtube/Twitch/Facebook/etc.
So you basically activate some kind of x factor for both randomly? I...don't know how I feel about this