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Thank God a giant corporation loves me: Marvel Studios edition

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MacNille said:
They don't love you. They love the money you can give them.
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I know that. I never said they loved me, or that they want anything other than money, which is why I don't understand the title change at all. I said I love their movies and I'm having fun with them. To whoever of the mods made the title change, please read my original post and tell me where I mentioned that Marvel loves me. I feel the change is completely unwarranted.
 
alexandros said:
I know that. I never said they loved me, or that they want anything other than money, which is why I don't understand the title change at all. I said I love their movies and I'm having fun with them. To whoever of the mods made the title change, please read my original post and tell me where I mentioned that Marvel loves me. I feel the change is completely unwarranted.
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Mods don't read posts confirmed.
 
Dalek said:
I'm 37 and when I was a kid I would have never have dreamed of a time when there were Marvel movies being made that had a connected continuity, legitimately great actors and faithfulness to the source material. I think it's hard for a lot of younger people to appreciate this. Living in the 80s-the concept of Marvel Studios and the Marvel Cinematic Universe would seem impossible, and now it's not only a reality but a highly successful one at that.
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Same for me. I'm 36, btw.

My balls retracted into my body when Nick fucking Fury showed up post-credits in Iron Man. Who would have thought that something like that would happen? Now it's something that's so commonplace, it's almost boring. But growing up when I did, watching Batman and Superman movies turn to shit, hoping for Cameron to make his Spider-Man movie for decades while they fought over rights...kids these days don't know how good they have it!
 
The Marvel cinematic universe has brought back the feeling I used to get when going to the movies as a kid and they're allowing some great writers and directors make some huge blockbusters. I love it.
 
in 15 years when my son will be 12 years old the marvel movies will be to him what star wars was to me in his age.

they are genius, amazing, funny, just great.
 
I think they're falling increasingly flat not just because of the lack of character development, but because the stakes have been raised so high there's no where else to go. Remember when in the first Superman film his goal was to save California? Now in the Marvel Universe not only have the Avengers saved the world once already (and presumably again in the sequel), the Guardians of the Galaxy have saved a planet and in effect the entire, well, galaxy. Where can the film makers go to keep it compelling?
 
Lol at the beginning of this thread with all of the posters warning OP a storm was coming and they were right.

I like the MCU, the movies have been a lot of fun.
 
Veelk said:
I really dislike these cynical kinds of answers. Unless you are a able to travel to parallel dimensions, you don't know that for sure, for one. I mean, I seriously doubt that they didn't have a single property more well known than Guardians of the Galaxy. Black Widow and Hawketye alone has more fame just because of their appearances in the Marvel Universe before. If they were going off PURELY in order of most well known properties, we'd have gotten Captain America and Hulk before we got Iron man.

Look, I don't deny that they are out to make money. They are a business. But they are a business where that makes its money off creative expression and they show FAR less meddling in that process than most other movie studios. And they should be commended for that.
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We did. In 2003 Universal made the film Hulk, which sucked but made alot of money in merchendise. One of the earlier Captain America movies was done in 1990. Iron man was made in 2008 by Universal, so yes we got a Captain America and Hulk movie way before an Iron Man movie.

But again, the Iron Man movies were created by Universal and made successful WELL before Disney bought the rights back. So you shouldn't be thanking Disney for the Iron man franchise, you should thank Universal. Disney just expanded what was already successful with the only other properties they had. We have already seen what happens when one movie studio is in control of all its comic book movies (DC and WB). We get Batman and Superman movies. That's it.

If you think Disney wouldn't love to spend their time on franchises that are known to sell movie tickets, comic books, toys and cartoons then you are fooling yourself. I personally love what Marvel is doing with their movies and do not believe that X-men or Spiderman would benefit from being under Disney. I feel like we would just get fewer Marvel movies and fewer lesser known Marvel heroes.
 
ZackieChan said:
Same for me. I'm 36, btw.

My balls retracted into my body when Nick fucking Fury showed up post-credits in Iron Man. Who would have thought that something like that would happen? Now it's something that's so commonplace, it's almost boring. But growing up when I did, watching Batman and Superman movies turn to shit, hoping for Cameron to make his Spider-Man movie for decades while they fought over rights...kids these days don't know how good they have it!
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There's a lot of people who take what Marvel Studios have done for granted. I've seen people say "Well, no shit-of course Iron Man was a big success!" Before Iron Man released, no one would have thought it would be a success-even Marvel Studios was unsure. Now with hindsight it's easy to look back and say it was a slam dunk. You even see some people now say that GOTG was an easy win.
 
Goliath said:
WBut again, the Iron Man movies were created by Universal and made successful WELL before Disney bought the rights back. So you shouldn't be thanking Disney for the Iron man franchise, you should thank Universal.
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That was Paramount, not Universal. All of the pre-Avengers MCU movies but Incredible Hulk 2008 were Paramount (Hulk was the one by Universal).

And Paramount and Universal were only distributors, IIRC.
 
Slayven said:
Can't wait for 4 years from now when Batman gets embarrassed by Black Panther.
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2 years. Black Panther's gonna be in Captain America: Civil War and go head to head with Batman v Superman.

Baron von Loathsome said:
That was Paramount, not Universal. All of the pre-Avengers MCU movies but Incredible Hulk 2008 were Paramount (Hulk was the one by Universal).

And Paramount and Universal were only distributors, IIRC.
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This. Paramount & Universal had no creative input whatsoever. It was always Marvel and Feige at the reins.
 
Not The Droid You're Looking For said:
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Sectorseven said:
I think they're falling increasingly flat not just because of the lack of character development, but because the stakes have been raised so high there's no where else to go. Remember when in the first Superman film his goal was to save California? Now in the Marvel Universe not only have the Avengers saved the world once already (and presumably again in the sequel), the Guardians of the Galaxy have saved a planet and in effect the entire, well, galaxy. Where can the film makers go to keep it compelling?
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The universe obviously.
Not kidding, that will be the endgame of Infinity War P2

Goliath said:
We did. In 2003 Universal made the film Hulk, which sucked but made alot of money in merchendise. One of the earlier Captain America movies was done in 1990. Iron man was made in 2008 by Universal, so yes we got a Captain America and Hulk movie way before an Iron Man movie.

But again, the Iron Man movies were created by Universal and made successful WELL before Disney bought the rights back. So you shouldn't be thanking Disney for the Iron man franchise, you should thank Universal. Disney just expanded what was already successful with the only other properties they had. We have already seen what happens when one movie studio is in control of all its comic book movies (DC and WB). We get Batman and Superman movies. That's it.

If you think Disney wouldn't love to spend their time on franchises that are known to sell movie tickets, comic books, toys and cartoons then you are fooling yourself. I personally love what Marvel is doing with their movies and do not believe that X-men or Spiderman would benefit from being under Disney. I feel like we would just get fewer Marvel movies and fewer lesser known Marvel heroes.
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You are mixing up Paramount and Universal. Also Disney bought Marvel barely a year after IM1 and TIH released (August 2009).
 
alexandros said:
I know that. I never said they loved me, or that they want anything other than money, which is why I don't understand the title change at all. I said I love their movies and I'm having fun with them. To whoever of the mods made the title change, please read my original post and tell me where I mentioned that Marvel loves me. I feel the change is completely unwarranted.
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Unfortunately, what you want to pay for matches exactly with what Marvel wants you to pay for. Apparently, that means that you think they love you.

Vandrar said:
I'm not going, I am renting.
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Sounds like a waste of time, money or both.
 
I agree with %100 . I am so happy for what Marvel has done for comic book movies. I like that Captain American Winter Solider was like a spy movie and GOTG was a space comedy. I hate when people think movies need to be all serious and dark. I think the tone of each movie should fit the characters in it. I hope DC can do the same with there up coming movies. I think they have a chance to knock it out of the park with Suicide Squad.
 
As a big lifelong fan of Marvel comics I'm very glad that they've accomplished their initial goal of creating a universe where all there movies are connected. That said they've had movies that I thought were GREAT (GOTG and Winter Solider) movies that I thought were good (IM1 and Avengers) and the rest which range from medicore to bad. That said with the recent output being great and the fact they finally confirmed a Black Panther movie I'm definitely looking forward to their Phase 3 movies.
 
animlboogy said:
Its hard to know how true this is. Yes, we probably wouldn't have two Thor films, but even in the current climate GotG was really an out of left field choice. There are like a dozen more IPs that would have been safer. GotG/the stories they spun out of weren't even selling amazingly among comics nerds, they were just well-regarded.

Their formula seems to be to mine all of Marvel's IPs for the good bits.
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The same could be said about the Avengers. The Avengers comics were established with Marvel's least valuable superheros in an attempt to make them relevant again. There individual comics were selling poorly so they lumped them together in hopes of garnering new interest. It worked but compared to Spiderman, X-men and other licenses they are still nowhere near as popular.

Marvel has been working with their second tier licenses for sometime now and have been making lemonade out of their lemons. Now do I think a company known for driving licenses down for the purpose of merchandising (see Cinderella 3 and Lion King 1/2) would focus on their lesser known properties when they have access to the tier one licenses. I am sorry, I don't.

Either way, I feel like we get more Marvel movies this way, and I am completely OK with that. I would rather have it this way then have fewer Marvel movies so Spiderman can cameo in Avengers.
 
Overall I liked Guardians, and it had its moments where I genuinely laughed. But did every sentence have to sound snarky or be met with a flippant response? Everything started to sound forced, like someone trying too hard to be funny. Then it became predictable, and for me that's the problem with the tone of a lot of Marvel films. I can't count on them having a serious fucking moment. Every important moment has its tension broken with a joke, sometimes funny and sometimes not. When there's any drama in a Marvel movie, I'm already waiting for a punchline.
 
E the Shaggy said:
For people who don't like the Marvel Studios movies, what is your favorite super hero film or do you think one even exists?
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Spider-Man 2 and Batman Begins. 2 movies filled with character development and thematic depth found in none of the Marvel Studios movies.
 
X05 said:
The universe obviously.
Not kidding, that will be the endgame of Infinity War P2
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Is that really (more) compelling to you? Do you feel an appreciable emotional difference in the scale of galaxies and universes, let alone the average movie goer?
 
RobotNinjaHornets said:
I'm guessing 90% of the responses will be Spider-Man 2 for some reason unbeknownst to me
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That, X2, Batman Begins and TDK are the most likely ones.

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Sectorseven said:
Is that really (more) compelling to you? Do you feel an appreciable emotional difference in the scale of galaxies and universes, let alone the average movie goer?
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Yes, because it's seeing the heroes (try) to face immeasurable odds and how they do it (success is a given)
 
PartlyCloudlike said:
Overall I liked Guardians, and it had its moments where I genuinely laughed. But did every sentence have to sound snarky or be met with a flippant response? Everything started to sound forced, like someone trying too hard to be funny. Then it became predictable, and for me that's the problem with the tone of a lot of Marvel films. I can't count on them having a serious fucking moment. Every important moment has its tension broken with a joke, sometimes funny and sometimes not. When there's any drama in a Marvel movie, I'm already waiting for a punchline.
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You mean like right at the beginning when Quill's mum died? Or at the end when
Rocket's crying over Groot and Drax just comes over and comforts him?
Or after that
with Awesome Mix Volume 2 and that letter from Quill's mum?

Not The Droid You're Looking For said:
Spidey 2 is up there for me, but not my favourite. The question is not even aimed at me, though. I like Marvel Studios films, haha.
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I always forget you're one of them :c
 
These movies are brain dead but fun in a dumb way. They are kind of like the transformers movies, only somewhat better written and directed.
 
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