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ARROW Season 3 |OT| Welcome to the New Age

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Septimus Prime said:
I actually kind of like DJ D-Bag because, if for no other reason, no one--including DC fans--seems to know who he is or what his motivations are. He is possibly the only character in the series right now who can truly surprise us.

Also, I totally agree that it feels like they are trying to make Felicity seem like a bitch. That scene where Diggle visits her in her office, and she does the swoosh for the Palmer Tech logo, was...wow. No empathy at all for Ollie, huh?
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To be fair... Ollie did a shit job of running the billion dollar multinational corporation.
 
FloatingDivider said:
I kind of agree with this because I remember feeling the same for the first half of both previous seasons. I just don't know if they can do it again because there's so much in motion now. You've got malcolm being around, Ras al ghul, captain boomerang, atom in the making, whatever laurel is doing, crazy cupid chick, speedy and dancemaster steve etc. The first two seasons had a very focused feel towards the end with one main villain with some sort of nefarious scheme that had to be stopped. Right now this just feels like the csi arrow power hour with a new flavour of the week villain every week, and I don't see how they stop it feeling like that with all of these characters in play.
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First season was very focused (and imo really underrated), but I thought S2 was all over the place. The entire mayoral subplot, for instance, was totally tangential to the Slade story. I understand why they did it in the first place -- putting a villain in control of the city -- but why did that even matter in the long run? Blood winning that election plays no advantage for Slade's plan to destroy the city; it's not like he would've just turned around and left if Moira was mayor.

Let's also not forget Summer Glau, who was introduced at the beginning as a major foil for Oliver, suddenly disappears for literally half the season because the writers were still figuring out along the way whether to make her friend or foe.

Then there was a bunch of other side shit (Nyssa and the Leage, Suicide Squad and ARGUS, Birds of Prey ep, Solomon Grundy, etc.) that were really just set-ups for very minor roles in the finale or something else down the line.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed S2, but focused and clearly directed it was not.
 
Don't see how they're making Felicity out to be a bitch. Oliver had his chance with her and he decided against it for standard superhero reasons, is she meant to just wait around until he changes he mind?
 
Summer Glau in that Mirakuru outfit with the mask looked sooooooooooooo terrible.

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Blader said:
First season was very focused (and imo really underrated), but I thought S2 was all over the place. The entire mayoral subplot, for instance, was totally tangential to the Slade story. I understand why they did it in the first place -- putting a villain in control of the city -- but why did that even matter in the long run? Blood winning that election plays no advantage for Slade's plan to destroy the city; it's not like he would've just turned around and left if Moira was mayor.

Let's also not forget Summer Glau, who was introduced at the beginning as a major foil for Oliver, suddenly disappears for literally half the season because the writers were still figuring out along the way whether to make her friend or foe.

Then there was a bunch of other side shit (Nyssa and the Leage, Suicide Squad and ARGUS, Birds of Prey ep, Solomon Grundy, etc.) that were really just set-ups for very minor roles in the finale or something else down the line.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed S2, but focused and clearly directed it was not.
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Actually, while Blood winning the election didn't matter, Blood running for mayor very much did, since that's arguably what Slade used to get his hooks in him. Offered him power and a better chance at the mayorship in exchange for Blood managing his Mirakuru program and helping set things up.
 
Leependi said:
Don't see how they're making Felicity out to be a bitch. Oliver had his chance with her and he decided against it for standard superhero reasons, is she meant to just wait around until he changes he mind?
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I think it's less about Felicity/Oliver, and more about "Expensive dress? Fancy necklace? Swoooooooon"
 
Quick spoilers via EW:
Q: Do you know when we’ll find out who killed Sara on Arrow?

A: I took your question straight to executive producer Marc Guggenheim: “I’ve always maintained that you’d find out the answer to who murdered Sara by the end of the year,” he says. “That said, I will say that the S.T.A.R. Labs team is going to end up providing a critical piece of information that cracks open the whole case, but that doesn’t necessarily happen in [the crossover].”
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Does he mean end of the calendar year or end of the season?
 
Felicity has just seemed off this whole season (the character)
I'd rather her be on Flash personally

Also this might have been my least favorite episode so far :(
That DJ…ugh
 
There's a serious lack of focus this season. They have the whole Sara thing that people kind of jump in and out of caring about. There was something with Diggles bro that I'm not sure they ever addressed. And they seem to just give him a mask whenever they feel like it. The flashback is just going nowhere at all and I don't see the point. I thought it was for a second but then the guy came back. Ra's is doing... something. Palmer is suddenly doing... something. Roy and Olly are about to fuck. Then you got some DJ harassing Thea. And what happened to Thea and her pops? And is Laurel fighting crime?

Too much shit.
 
Septimus Prime said:
I actually kind of like DJ D-Bag because, if for no other reason, no one--including DC fans--seems to know who he is or what his motivations are. He is possibly the only character in the series right now who can truly surprise us.

Also, I totally agree that it feels like they are trying to make Felicity seem like a bitch. That scene where Diggle visits her in her office, and she does the swoosh for the Palmer Tech logo, was...wow. No empathy at all for Ollie, huh?
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Why would she have empathy for Oliver at this point? Ray is a better man than Olivier could ever hope to be. And no, Palmer being a psycho stalker isn't a negative, when Oliver is just as much of a psycho (just different).
 
The latest episode with the cupid nymphomaniac chick was one of the shittiest television villains I have had to sit through in a long time. Utterly void. Otherwise good progression in the episode, but damn.
 
I'm going to call it right now:

Sara's killer is Slade, who has been recruited into the Suicide Squad and is being used by Waller for reasons that have something to do with the flashbacks but can't quite parse yet. Maybe she's trying to cut down on the number of capes in Starling? Or maybe Sara appears in the Hong Kong flashbacks at some point, and whatever role she has there is tied to why Waller would want her bumped off later on. And Slade goes along with it, partly because he's probably being controlled by remote bomb or something, and partly because killing one of Oliver's girlfriends is the revenge he wanted to get last year.
 
Blader said:
I'm going to call it right now:

Sara's killer is Slade, who has been recruited into the Suicide Squad and is being used by Waller for reasons that have something to do with the flashbacks but can't quite parse yet. Maybe she's trying to cut down on the number of capes in Starling? Or maybe Sara appears in the Hong Kong flashbacks at some point, and whatever role she has there is tied to why Waller would want her bumped off later on. And Slade goes along with it, partly because he's probably being controlled by remote bomb or something, and partly because killing one of Oliver's girlfriends is the revenge he wanted to get last year.
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CHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
 
Blader said:
I'm going to call it right now:

Sara's killer is Slade, who has been recruited into the Suicide Squad and is being used by Waller for reasons that have something to do with the flashbacks but can't quite parse yet. Maybe she's trying to cut down on the number of capes in Starling? Or maybe Sara appears in the Hong Kong flashbacks at some point, and whatever role she has there is tied to why Waller would want her bumped off later on. And Slade goes along with it, partly because he's probably being controlled by remote bomb or something, and partly because killing one of Oliver's girlfriends is the revenge he wanted to get last year.
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I will rage if this is true.
 
Blader said:
I'm going to call it right now:

Sara's killer is Slade, who has been recruited into the Suicide Squad and is being used by Waller for reasons that have something to do with the flashbacks but can't quite parse yet. Maybe she's trying to cut down on the number of capes in Starling? Or maybe Sara appears in the Hong Kong flashbacks at some point, and whatever role she has there is tied to why Waller would want her bumped off later on. And Slade goes along with it, partly because he's probably being controlled by remote bomb or something, and partly because killing one of Oliver's girlfriends is the revenge he wanted to get last year.
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"What are you doing here?"
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The way the arrows were thrown according to Felicity actually support this theory a bit
:o
 
I think Thea killed Sara. Thea wants to kill anyone from the League of Assassins who are tracking down her father, Malcolm. Remember that Sara was in Starling because she was looking for Malcolm, the League still wants him dead.
 
While I'm watching the episode:

Supes doing salmon ladder...ok

Palmer copying Oliver speech of something else is lame

you broke his hearth felicity you broke his hearth

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the cupid bitch is getting on my nerves

attachment disorder??? I'm a psychologist and never heard of it, I would go with obsessive-compulsive disorder

felicity daium in that suit

random though what does oliver do for living?

Thea future boyfriend doesn't look so douchie... on the other end the character is

the girl is crazy so no treatment just send them to suicide squad...ok

oh no you didn't Felicity...welcome to new age Oliver (priceless moment I demand a video with radioactive)

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I'd fucking love it if the Red Hood was incorporated into the Arrowverse, he was such a cool villain in the film and would make a lot of sense. the problem is fucking WB and their fucking Batman laws :(

And LOL at that gif, I die every time.
 
Chariot said:
"Erm, Diggle..."
"WHAT NOW"
"I left the island at some point, but you didn't."

*cut to Diggle waking up alone on the island*
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BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARM

L4DANathan said:
.....Don't fucking tease me. My heart can't take it. :'(

Anyways, I don't know how they did it, but Captain Boomerang looks fucking badass.
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Freewheelin' said:
I'd fucking love it if the Red Hood was incorporated into the Arrowverse, he was such a cool villain in the film and would make a lot of sense. the problem is fucking WB and their fucking Batman laws :(

And LOL at that gif, I die every time.
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Imagine this scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kscfb9XzPs), but with Oliver, Malcolm, and Tommy. Though you'd have to change up the dialogue a lot cause it's a completely different context.

It'd be like a blend of the following scenes:

Ending of Under the Red Hood: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kscfb9XzPs
Ending of Winter Soldier: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-U-x-okaXA

I DON'T KNOW HOW, BUT MAKE IT WORK. Make Red Hood's entire rampage a long extended suicide of a memory broken Tommy who's will has finally broken and Ollie has to save him from himself.
 
Freewheelin' said:
I'd fucking love it if the Red Hood was incorporated into the Arrowverse, he was such a cool villain in the film and would make a lot of sense. the problem is fucking WB and their fucking Batman laws :(

And LOL at that gif, I die every time.
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I think WB has gotten a bit lax on those rules. We got Gotham running now, and there's definitely some B/C/D-tier Bat-villains running around in the Arrow universe. Red Hood could be easily done, and easily divorced from Batman.
 
no way it would be Slade. She wouldn't be so off guard. Now if was Ras, well then of course, she would think, " what are you doing here(away from Nanda Parbat)? and let her guard down" This other stuff seems unlikely.
 
I guess I'm the only one who didn't like this last episode. Cupid was annoying as fuck, I could barely keep my eyes from rolling back into my skull whenever she was on. Ollie was just being an idiot for the most part.

I think I'm just losing interest in the show, which sucks because GA is my favorite normal human hero. Maybe seeing how light and relatively upbeat Flash is every week just makes the dark and broodiness of Arrow wear at me more. I mean, when the hell was the last time there was a lengthy scene taking place during the day?
 
SG-17 said:
I guess I'm the only one who didn't like this last episode. Cupid was annoying as fuck, I could barely keep my eyes from rolling back into my skull whenever she was on. Ollie was just being an idiot for the most part.

I think I'm just losing interest in the show, which sucks because GA is my favorite normal human hero. Maybe seeing how light and relatively upbeat Flash is every week just makes the dark and broodiness of Arrow wear at me more. I mean, when the hell was the last time there was a lengthy scene taking place during the day?
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Think every scene in the Corto Maltese ep was in the day time.
 
I'll be honest - from the "I'm cupid stupid" cliffhanger of the last episode, I expected her to be just horrible to watch

That DJ guy really put her in to perspective. I actually really liked the unhinged portrayal, I do like the mentally insane villains (vertigo etc), I'd love to see Harley - it's a shame we won't, although I do like that she got another shout out this week.

There were a few things meh about the episode: Ollie's apparent petulant jealousy, the DJ guy, the guys going around to Diggle's house instead of going to a bar to just get rotten drunk, the DJ, not seeing more of the Atom's suit, the DJ, thea, the DJ...

I've got a feeling Ollie and Maseo's wife have imperilled Maseo's family or triggered a set of events that will suddenly become relevant to the present-day storyline. Tatsu implied they left Japan because they were hiding from someone... assassins perhaps?

Oh and I forgot -- Sherwood Florist! AWESOME :)
 
So I went back to watch the first half of the episode... Holy mother of god, the DJs intro has to be the most obnoxious introduction for any character in anything ever.
 
BlackNMild2k1 said:
It needs to end. they really should make this the final season.
S5 should have been the final season.
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The sad thing is that it could have remained top notch. They had multiple chances to do a semi reboot of it, but they never could fully commit to it, instead dragging the S1-5 elements and rehashing them.
 
Cyd0nia said:
I've got a feeling Ollie and Maseo's wife have imperilled Maseo's family or triggered a set of events that will suddenly become relevant to the present-day storyline. Tatsu implied they left Japan because they were hiding from someone... assassins perhaps?
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speaking of which, how long until Ollie sleeps with Maseo's wife? Because there's no way that's not happening.
 
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