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Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin announced for PS4/XBO/PC - April 2015

I'll buy this again even if i still consider it the weakest of the Souls games.Probably not on day 1 though (I'll be very busy with BloodBorne and FF Type-0/FFXV demo.)Now i'm glad i waited from buying the DLC,it gives me an added incentive to play this again.

I hope by the time Dark Souls 3 will be coming out they will also remaster Demon's Souls/Dark Souls 1.I don't usually buy remasters but the Souls games are among my very few exceptions.
 
So if I pick up DS2 during the steam sale and get the season pass, the rest of the upgrades are free for the PC version??

OP is a little confusing TBH.
 
L.O.R.D said:
i have the PC version with the season pass , all installed
but lost my save and want to start again,, this is good news for me
so now i can start the DX11 version ?
why its separated from the DX9 version ?
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I bet it's a ploy for them to do away with the DX9 version and place the DX11 one in it's place with the updated price.
 
Well, I put in 100ish hours on the PC version and I have yet to play the DLC. I was waiting on the Steam sale to see what was up, I'd gladly replay it. Maybe on PS4, maybe not as Bloodborne will be first priority!
 
Durante said:
Are those screenshots in the OP supposed to be the new version?
Because they look worse than what I already played on PC.
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This.

Nothing tells us this DX11 port isn't half assed. Certainly it won't be an overhaul of the actual engine and you can forget something substantial.

What the trailer shows is that they added some dynamic lights on torched and added a few shaders on some bosses.

That's it for DX11 version. It's the same stuff with minor effects. And if it's not well directed it may well be that it looks worse than original, as it sometimes happen with redone engines.

At least I'm GLAD that the old version is available and integrates the content. We have the guarantee that at least they won't make WORSE the version we already have.
 
Danneee said:
I haven't heard a lot of good things about this so I think I'll skip it.
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I think that's a mistake. There's a lot of drummed up negativity, with people being far more critical of it than they allow themselves to be with Demon's and Dark Souls 1.

Its still a good game.
 
60 FPS, uprezzed DS1 please. Not really interested in DS2. Bought it day one on 360 and still haven't bothered to finish it. Graphics were appalling. Warping from the start was bs. Adaptability stat broke core principles for me.
 
A thing I don't see anyone mentioning is how the game (DS2) got completely boring after all the updates. Sure, the updates fixed a lot of broken elements of the game but it also nerfed everything to the point of PVP being completely dull and boring after a while. Plus the fact that after all these updates, broken hitboxes are still present and online is filled with players with hacked game saves or hacked profiles.

I've put some much time into the game (180+ hours, 700 level) that I can't justify starting all over again. Maybe I will try out the new area on the old build and that's pretty much it basically.
 
Platinumed the game but never played the DLCs because I knew there was going to be a 'GotY'-like edition. Had no idea it'd be for PS4.

Will double dip for sure.
 
I traded in DS2 shortly after beating it because I found it underwhelming and I figured a remaster would happen eventually if I ever wanted to give it a second chance.

But man, releasing it so soon after Bloodborne? I may just wait until later in 2015 when the usual summer game drought hits and pick this up cheap.
 
I wish they fixed the hitboxes,the parry-riposte system and overall animations for this version but of course i'm not getting my hopes up.
 
Also, in the meantime Namco said they'd port original Dark Souls to Steam in November.

November is basically over. Still nothing about Dark Souls.
 
Skii said:
The main problem is that the game has no "soul".

It is extremely boring in every aspect in comparison to the previous two games. The level design is boring with no real shortcuts anymore. The graphical design is very boring aside from weapons and armour. The enemies in general are very boring with a huge emphasis on humanoid enemies. The change in the way enemies attacked brought about a false sense of difficulty which lead to frustration for many players.

The bosses are easily the worst offenders though. They are all average at best aside from the Darklurker (and even then, it's optional). Not a single boss is remotely comparable to the gravity and impact when you was facing the Flamelurker/Maneater/O+S/Kalameet and none of them made you care for them like you did with Maiden Astraea/Sif/Artorias. It was easily the most disappointing aspect of the game.

Ultimately, From's B team (if you can call it that) completely misunderstood the point of a Souls game. They focussed so much on creating difficulty for the sake of difficulty that all other aspects of the game suffered immensely imo. To the point where fighting bosses became a mundane task.

The next part is a very light spoiler for Dark Souls 2:

There's a section in Dark Souls 2 where you fight numerous "humanoid" enemies who seem to have infinite stamina causing massive problems in trying to negotiate them only to lead to the most unfair boss in any Souls game. It is easily the worst designed boss, the most uninspiring and that was the point where the disappointment just overwhelmed me.

Dark Souls 2 is a good game, don't get me wrong. But it isn't great like its predecessors.
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I agree.
There is a reason why Miyazaki' Souls are memorable and DS2 is not.
And that reason is Miyazaki.
Dark Souls 2 is a good game, one of my favourites, but lacks Miyazaki's imagination.
It is so obvious to me. I can feel (or cannot feel, in this case) it.
The "soul" is not there.
 
Wait, they aren't patching in DX11 rendering to the PC version? The one you bought earlier this year will just be DX9 instead of being DX9/11 like most PC ports that had DX11 effects for the past year?

WTF FROM?
 
The biggest problems with this game were:
1. Lack of clutter (no props result in environments that feel empty and not lived in, a matter made worse by...)
2. ...Uninspired indoors (every room was a box)
3. Disjointed outdoors (when you have fast travel from the start you can let an issue like this slip through.)

Extra: All this harkens back to the choices made in early development. In the first game the level design began from creating a place on the macro scale. You could not open all doors but buildings had architecture. The playable levels were then designed after building these locations. Whereas Dark Souls 2 missed a step in this chain of world-building: the areas feel more like set pieces from a play or something.

I look forward to what they've done with DX11, the lighting especially. Better not have Wind Waker HD'd the bloom fx.
 
As a huge Souls fan: no thanks. If it had been Demon's or Dark 1 I would have been all over this. DS2 is, while a great game, the weakest of the three. And by the time this current gen version releases it will only be a year old. With the other two it's been a few years so I would be interested in playing a remastered version. DS2, no thanks, the game is still new and I played through all the DLC, that's enough DS2 for the near future. Also, Bloodborne comes out a few weeks earlier, why would I want to replay DS2 then?
 
Seanspeed said:
I think that's a mistake. There's a lot of drummed up negativity, with people being far more critical of it than they allow themselves to be with Demon's and Dark Souls 1.

Its still a good game.
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Yep. I've been critical of DS2 in the past, but a lot of the criticism in this thread reads like some are looking at past Souls games through rose-colored glasses, and then choosing to look at DS2 through the lens of GIFs showing messed up hitboxes and screenshots showing flat trees. Just incredibly hyperbolic stuff, considering the gameplay and aesthetics generally hold up just fine a great majority of the time (on PC, at least).

Anyway, unfortunate that this will split the PC userbase, but hopefully there's a strong discount option that mitigates this. With a small enough barrier to making the upgrade, I would expect this new version to revitalize the community, not make it feel smaller. It's interesting, though, that they'll be using new servers for the PC version, as well. Pretty curious how different the remaster will be from the original, especially in terms of matchmaking.

Also, I feel the people connecting this remaster to the downgrade are completely off-base. I don't really see this as an opportunity to reintroduce the original lighting, because that was connected to a gameplay system that doesn't seem to exist anymore. I wouldn't expect it, and based on the screenshots, it doesn't seem to be there.
 
While Durante deserves praise and all that, I'd much rather see the first Dark Souls getting a proper PC version. Dark Souls II already runs just fine.
 
CyberPunked said:
As pretty as these cherry picked areas look, the majority of the game still looks like total garbage no matter the amount of colour correction and ao you inject.
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I'm sorry you feel that way. I have these so-called "cherry picked" shots from pretty much every single area in the game, and they all look great.

I feel like you need to "cherry pick" a lot more to get good-looking shots in DS1 -- and of course DeS always looks pretty shitty.

Nerokis said:
Yep. I've been critical of DS2 in the past, but a lot of the criticism in this thread reads like some are looking at past Souls games through rose-colored glasses, and then choosing to look at DS2 through the lens of GIFs showing messed up hitboxes and screenshots showing flat trees. Just incredibly hyperbolic stuff, considering the gameplay and aesthetics generally hold up just fine a great majority of the time (on PC, at least).
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I think the glasses aren't just rose-colored. They are opaque.
 
PC gamers who already own the original and DLC. Assuming everything else is correct and there will be no save data transfers and a seperate. How much of a discount are you willing to buy Dark Souls 2: Prepare to Rebuy Edition as an entirely new sku?

I want to say $15 for previous owners would be acceptable. I've already spent $75 on this game and it's DLC. The new content will probably not be much bigger than each individual piece of DLC and the graphic options and multiplayer boost should have been patched in since we never had the restraints last gen consoles did. It will suck losing my character I've built over 300 hours but as long as they make it cheap enough that most of the community doesn't feel screwed and moves over I can deal with that loss.

RIP My Dickwarith...
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Seanspeed said:
I think that's a mistake. There's a lot of drummed up negativity, with people being far more critical of it than they allow themselves to be with Demon's and Dark Souls 1.

Its still a good game.
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QFT. Sometimes it feels as if people are actively looking for things to dislike, forgetting that despite it being a bit weaker in certain aspects, it's still a phenomenal game and most certainly my GOTY.

And what's that about controls being unresponsive? I heard that was the case on consoles, but the first thing I noticed about the sequel was his reactive the player character was to your inputs.

Edit: to the post above, nothing above 20 euros. Depending on changes I might go as far as 25. Ideally it'd be 15 if you purchased all the DLC.
 
BipolarBear629 said:
I felt as if Dark a Souls 2 combat was slower than the others, as if it had input lag. Do you think the next gen version can correct that?
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Did you play it on PC or console? Assuming it's solid 60 FPS like the PC version I'd guess the current-gen console version will control much better than the previous-gen version.
 
BipolarBear629 said:
I felt as if Dark a Souls 2 combat was slower than the others, as if it had input lag. Do you think the next gen version can correct that?
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Especially online. The net code at PvP can be VERY bad at times.

Like stated: Very wrong timing and they should be giving people the upgraded experience for free for those that purchased the game. Make the DLC payable but the upgrade should be free for those that already own the game.
 
If they bring back the dark areas with this update, then I'll be interested.

I don't hate Dark Souls II, but the fact that this is coming out after Bloodborne makes it unlikely that I'll give it a lot of attention.

Still didn't finish the third DLC. And I also need to play Demon's. I'm afraid series fatigue will get me.
 
Don't care for that game anymore.

Played it on Release for PS3 and PC.
Dark Souls 2 is the worst Souls game to date and Bloodborne has far more potential cause it is made by "Team A" unlike DS2.
Probably just a port for those people that can't enjoy Bloodborne cause they don't have a PS4.
 
is this some kind of joke ? really i have to pay again for a fck dx11 patch ? then i'd completely forget about some fix to dark souls prepare to die
 
So the new content will be free via patch but for the upgraded visuals we have to buy the new version?
I was going to buy the season pass during the steam sale but I'll just wait for this instead, not having bought the dlc yet will make the double-dip easier.

The hate DS2 gets around here is ridiculous.
 
Nerokis said:
Yep. I've been critical of DS2 in the past, but a lot of the criticism in this thread reads like some are looking at past Souls games through rose-colored glasses, and then choosing to look at DS2 through the lens of GIFs showing messed up hitboxes and screenshots showing flat trees. Just incredibly hyperbolic stuff, considering the gameplay and aesthetics generally hold up just fine a great majority of the time (on PC, at least).
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Yep, I agree. The game has its issues and for me DS1 is better, but man... the hyperbole with this game...
 
I always been a Souls fan and I remember when I played Demon's Souls (still my favourite in the series). I got an imported Asian copy since the game was not even available for Europe or NA. Finished one year after having the game. While I love these game I a bit... bad at them but this never stopped me from keep on trying and trying and... trying.

After finishing the Demon's Souls I pre-ordered the Limited Edition of Dark Souls for the PS3 and I was here on the Day One GAF Hype. I had some difficulty with the game and after no longer having my console I left the game unfinished. Months later I was able to play the Prepare to Die Edition on the PC and I had a great time. Finished the game and the DLC as well. Just like Demon's Souls, I loved Dark Souls Prepare do Die Edition. Such a great experience not to mention the amazing soundtrack.

However, after 30-40 hours I couldn't find the same satisfaction with Dark Souls II. The World does not seem inspired, I don't have the same great fun that I had with Demon's Souls and Dark Souls and I really can't tell why. I still need to complete the game but after so many hours invested it's hard for me to understand how I'm not having fun with a series I like so much. There were some nice locations but the most felt a bit bland and it's a shame I feel this way regarding the latest Souls game since I wanted to like it so much as I did with previously entries.
 
The Henery said:
60 FPS, uprezzed DS1 please. Not really interested in DS2. Bought it day one on 360 and still haven't bothered to finish it. Graphics were appalling. Warping from the start was bs. Adaptability stat broke core principles for me.
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Agreed, while DS2 was fun, I think DS1 was a much superior game and would rather dive into Lordran again.
 
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