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Dark Souls 2: Scholar of the First Sin announced for PS4/XBO/PC - April 2015
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Yeah, I had the same experience, switching directly between DS2 and DS1 even.
CountAntonius
Member
Dark Souls II: Dollars from the First Suckers.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
I'd rather not reward From Software and Namco twice for the fuck up they did in the first place. They should either patch and fix the original release or piss off.
VaultBoy101
Member
Bought day 1 last gen, will buy day 1 again. Absolutely loved the game.
Neon_Icarus
Member
Huh. Sorry From, although I liked Dark Souls II, I just don't have the time
to play a game of that length a third time (started over once for the DLC).
If this had been a Souls Remaster Collection (with Demon's Souls for the PS4)
I would have been all over this though.
to play a game of that length a third time (started over once for the DLC).
If this had been a Souls Remaster Collection (with Demon's Souls for the PS4)
I would have been all over this though.
borborygmus
Member
There's so many of these generic posts that say "Sure, it was flawed, but it was still great" without addressing any of the criticisms.
- Abysmal hitboxes
- Ridiculous enemy rotation/tracking
- Enemies have unlimited stamina
- Encounter design boils down to being spammed with 10 enemies simultaneously
- Absurd geography - somehow, the top of a windmill has an upwards elevator into an underground lava pit.
- Huge visual and mechanical downgrade at the very last stretch before release.
- Soul memory
None of the above was "actively" searched for and it's disingenuous to imply that it was.
Souls is about combat, exploration, atmosphere, all of which are bungled in Dark Souls 2. I mean, with all of these factors being so deeply flawed, what's left?
Paying ANYTHING for this garbage is unacceptable if you already own the game+Season Pass, which should include ALL new content, new SKU or otherwise. But I guess we're playing "Scamco - the Capcom we want ya' money game when it's totally unnecessary". Whereas far greater updates like the FTL update and Dustforce DX update were FREE to all previous owners, and these were Indies with far lower budgets and install bases. Really goes to show who's doing it for the money, and who's doing it for the passion of game making and respecting their customers. So if you support this behavior, please buy this and show your true colors.
Also find it hilarious in their little list they mention NOTHING about restructuring and fixing the horrible broken mechanics and control calibrations from DkS2, or Poise or hitboxes, or untying the roll speeds and i-frames from the ADP stat (stupidest thing I ever saw in a Souls game imo). Their just basically doing scaling and nerf/buff crap on a larger scale, doing who knows what with NPC's, and putting on a shiny new coat of paint and hyping it like it's the "new black"...for of course a price even with the Season Pass already bought. They also mention NOTHING about fixing their terrible "restriction system" they implemented after the terrifucked up VAC support (great competence there), based on, you guessed it Soul Memory, another example of a hideously bad idea that even goes so far as to screw legit players while cheaters/hackers get free passes!
TL
R - Fuck Scamco. PC game didn't need a new SKU for PC, just a good sized update for free, I'm running a Quad-SLI Titan Z rig with a 6-core Haswell OCed, 32GB G.Skill DDR3 and somehow, somehow I've got to buy a new version/upgrade of the game that supports DX11?? What is that, this ain't 2005. Oh yeah, I forgot, Namco is scum and just wants your money and doesn't give a shit about it's customers one way or the other...lining the CEO's pockets = greatest bottom line. Good ole fashioned business decision, we've got here.Cloud Strife
Member
Good for those who haven't played, I guess.
I've already bought and maxed it out with each bit of DLC. Now that I have a PS4, I wish I waited. Ugh.
I've already bought and maxed it out with each bit of DLC. Now that I have a PS4, I wish I waited. Ugh.
Conrad Link
Member
I will happily purchase again, love the Souls series and enjoyed Dark Souls 2 a lot!
Release timing is weird though, not sure I want it so soon after Bloodborne.
Release timing is weird though, not sure I want it so soon after Bloodborne.
The Hermit
Member
I always knew they would do that since The graphics gate.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Great thing I didn't buy DS 2.
I can acknowledge its flaws, no game is perfect, it's still a fantastic game. Clearly my opinion can't be right because I can't be passed to make a 10 point list of why it's such a great game.
Thing is, I can accept that there are people who dislike the game, I don't have a need to prove that it's fantastic.
Yet I feel there's a general theme of "10 reasons Dark Souls 2 is bad and why you should feel bad for enjoying it"
Thing is, I can accept that there are people who dislike the game, I don't have a need to prove that it's fantastic.
Yet I feel there's a general theme of "10 reasons Dark Souls 2 is bad and why you should feel bad for enjoying it"
sublimit
Banned
Different directors,different vision.
Not bad, but I'll raher have the rriginal japanese boxart
Cloud Strife
Member
The amount of content this game will have INCLUDING DLC will be staggering. Well worth full retail price if you haven't checked it out already.
borborygmus
Member
This is the key.
What bugs me is when people say "people who are negative about it are actively looking for things to dislike." It's really annoying when there are so many points being made, and I've never seen them addressed, ever. The criticisms are just lazily attributed to people actively looking for shit to whine about. Yeah, I bought this game so I could whine, that's plausible. <.<
AgentOtaku
Member
Well.... well fuck :/
Should I even finish my 50 hour or so save?
Should I even finish my 50 hour or so save?
I'm a little ways past the mirror knight/Dranglec Castle
As someone who played it on PC, 4k, 60fps blah blah blah, and has finished all three DLC, i find it a bit hard to care that much, considering in April we'll be knee deep in Bloodborne.
i'm curious about the performance and graphics improvements though, the game i already super light to run.
i'm curious about the performance and graphics improvements though, the game i already super light to run.
CountAntonius
Member
Paying ANYTHING for this garbage is unacceptable if you already own the game+Season Pass, which should include ALL new content, new SKU or otherwise. But I guess we're playing "Scamco - the Capcom we want ya' money game when it's totally unnecessary". Whereas far greater updates like the FTL update and Dustforce DX update were FREE to all previous owners, and these were Indies with far lower budgets and install bases. Really goes to show who's doing it for the money, and who's doing it for the passion of game making and respecting their customers. So if you support this behavior, please buy this and show your true colors.
Also find it hilarious in their little list they mention NOTHING about restructuring and fixing the horrible broken mechanics and control calibrations from DkS2, or Poise or hitboxes, or untying the roll speeds and i-frames from the ADP stat (stupidest thing I ever saw in a Souls game imo). Their just basically doing scaling and nerf/buff crap on a larger scale, doing who knows what with NPC's, and putting on a shiny new coat of paint and hyping it like it's the "new black"...for of course a price even with the Season Pass already bought. They also mention NOTHING about fixing their terrible "restriction system" they implemented after the terrifucked up VAC support (great competence there), based on, you guessed it Soul Memory, another example of a hideously bad idea that even goes so far as to screw legit players while cheaters/hackers get free passes!
TL
I say 15 IF there is a sizeable amount of extra content which would make it like a 4th DLC. If little is added any extra money spent would be a bit hard to justify.
You're like 60% into the game, i'd finish it and leave the DLC for April.
This might be my approach. Depending on whether Bloodborne sucks up all my time, I either wouldn't have time or wouldn't be inclined to play something similar in tone so soon after that game. So I can wait to see impressions from people and then pick up the PC version in a summer/autumn sale.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
Pretty psyched for this, but I'll probably wait for a price drop.
I played through DS2 on the 360, but I've avoided the DLC. This gives me a reason to go back.
I played through DS2 on the 360, but I've avoided the DLC. This gives me a reason to go back.
if you didn't play it on Ps360/PC or if you played it on Ps360 in sub 30 fps, getting this version (assuming it'll run at 60) isn't a bad idea at all, imo.
Now do I buy the DLC during the steam winter sale or just wait for this new version to come out?
I already got 160+ hours of enjoyment out of the base game.
I guess it depends on how drastic the improvents are. I hope they fix adaptability. Having 6 ADP really makes a soul level one run not fun!
I already got 160+ hours of enjoyment out of the base game.
I guess it depends on how drastic the improvents are. I hope they fix adaptability. Having 6 ADP really makes a soul level one run not fun!
Dragon1893
Member
Save files not carrying over really sucks...
I was going to buy it during this sale but now I'm waiting, no point sinking more money into the old version and save files don't carry over, it's a waste of money and time.
I was going to buy it during this sale but now I'm waiting, no point sinking more money into the old version and save files don't carry over, it's a waste of money and time.
Well, ok, I guess I have time for one more run.
Or a couple.
Namco pls release the patch already.
FullMetaltech
Member
Dont know how ill handle playing Bloodborne and DS2 so close together.
If you already own the Season Pass...............it should ALREADY be paid for. Period. Otherwise what did I pay all that cash for the Season Pass for? Three garbage DLC's that not only didn't address the community's issues with the base game, but in some cases went even crazier with those designs/setups. So, basically three terrible DLC's vs. Artorias of the Abyss ( which was FREE on PC and far better in every respect all thing considered) is what I gained from purchasing the Season Pass?
You mention a 4th DLC...which should by proxy be part of the "Season Pass". At least Irrational got it right with their Season Pass unlike most games...
I'll have to wait and see how much new content there actually is before I consider purchasing. I hope they rebalanced the weapons so there are more than a handful of weapons that are viable after NG+2. Barely any of the new weapons in the DLCs were even usable for me since they did such low damage to all enemies.
DS2 would basically have to be rebuilt from the ground up to address all of the issues I have with it. A fancier coat of paint isn't going to hide its glaring problems. That said, I'll try to reserve judgment until I hear how these gameplay tweaks manifest themselves, but I'm not terribly hopeful.
The timing of its release is also really strange; who's going to go from Bloodborne back to something as recent as DS2? I honestly think a port of DS1 would fare better.
The timing of its release is also really strange; who's going to go from Bloodborne back to something as recent as DS2? I honestly think a port of DS1 would fare better.
Xion_Stellar
People should stop referencing data that makes me feel uncomfortable because games get ported to platforms I don't like
MAYBE I will get this in late Summer 2015 or early Fall 2015 but for now I will skip it since this release date is too close to Bloodborne.
They addressed MY issues with the base game.
the DLC were pretty great (minus a couple of the bosses being shit reskins).
Also, lol.. Artorias was not "free" on PC, it was included in the GOTY edition of sort which was the only one available because it came out later.
By your logic, these DLC are also free on PC, PS4 and XBone, to anyone buying the GOTY edition of sort, coming out later (i.e.: this one).
Red Liquorice
Member
Cross-posting comment from DS2 OT:
So this isn't new content DLC, it's just an announcement of a GOTY type edition/patch for existing platforms and a PS4/Xbone version (as many predicted).
Interested what upgraded visuals mean, but 6 players sounds dumb as fuck though, sorry.
So this isn't new content DLC, it's just an announcement of a GOTY type edition/patch for existing platforms and a PS4/Xbone version (as many predicted).
Interested what upgraded visuals mean, but 6 players sounds dumb as fuck though, sorry.
CountAntonius
Member
Season pass was more a "save five dollars for this three pack" than anything. It was 25 individually it was 30. Same thing borderlands 2 did. They aren't going to make more dlc without charging for it.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Hah. Coming after Bloodborne ensures I won't give a solitary shit about them trying to polish up this weakest entry in the series.
Its certainly making me hesitant to buy future Dark Souls entries on day one any more unless I go PC though.
Its certainly making me hesitant to buy future Dark Souls entries on day one any more unless I go PC though.
Uhhhh, YES! If Namco really wanted to do something great for the community, they'd update DkS1 with the pre-release visuals of DkS2, add dedicated server support for PC/consoles, and otherwise throw in some throwback weapons like Blueblood Sword/Large Sword of Searching/Ancient King's Set/Eternal Warrrior's Ring/etc as hidden bonuses. Maybe even fix up Demon Ruin's/Lost Izalith to what they would have been if Namco had agreed to increase the budget and extend the release by 6-8 months.
THAT would be worth paying for.
