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MagnaderAlpha said:
I wonder what they plan on naming the new villain? I'm kinda hoping he's not a Sith Lord named "Darth" something. Looking at the list of Darths on the Wookiepedia, the majority of them are really stupid sounding. What would be next, Darth Stroyer, Darth Struction, Darth Villian? Vader still sounds the best(IMO).
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BobbyRoberts said:
YO you left the door open for me!

So, it was eh. Which is expected. Again, the reason his Star Wars & Star Trek reviews were good were a) he had literally YEARS worth of online discussion and analysis of those movies to metabolize and b) his schtick was still fresh feeling.

Stoklasa killed us all to death with those reviews because he just distilled all the great analysis written by tens of other (better) film writers into a much more easy to digest form, and then performed a very fun character.

Which is why when he goes back to Plinkett now, especially when it's only a couple days after an 88 second commercial has come out, it's so tired and empty. Because he doesn't have that knowledge base to draw from, and Plinkett isn't novel anymore, and even if he was, Stoklasa isn't doing him well anymore.

Trotting him out is just as perfunctory and rote as he makes it sound. Maybe that's part of the joke, but it's basically just that he knows this will give him hits so whether he wants to do it or not, he's gotta do it.
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CannonO said:
This shot was gorgeous

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I loved that as well. I think just seeing an xwing in an environment that isn't so obviously fake is what makes it awesome. It feels like the tech has caught up with the original premise of the universe which is what really excites me.
 
SargerusBR said:
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Bad
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They'd try to hide it by some "creative" spelling(creatively bad spelling). Darth
Baad/Bahd
. Hell, Darth
Evol
. And for yucks sake, Darth Meengai.

CannonO said:
Well, Starkiller is available now. That sounds like a cool order name, though I think it was oddly supposed to be the Unleashed character's real name and not a code or given name.
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If it's JUST "Starkiller"(not Darth), I can live with that.
 
MagnaderAlpha said:
I wonder what they plan on naming the new villain? I'm kinda hoping he's not a Sith Lord named "Darth" something. Looking at the list of Darths on the Wookiepedia, the majority of them are really stupid sounding. What would be next, Darth Stroyer, Darth Struction, Darth Villian? Vader still sounds the best(IMO).
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“The team threw a Hail Mary to George, saying the game would have more credibility if the apprentice had a ‘Darth’ title,” a Force Unleashed team member says. Lucas agreed that this situation made sense for Sith royalty, and offered up two Darth titles for the team to choose from. “He threw out ‘Darth Icky’ and ‘Darth Insanius.’ There was a pregnant pause in the room after that. People waiting for George to say ‘just kidding,’ but it never comes, and he just moved on to another point.”
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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2014/02/12/fall-of-the-empire-how-inner-turmoil-brought-down-a-legendary-studio.aspx
 
BobbyRoberts said:
YO you left the door open for me!

So, it was eh. Which is expected. Again, the reason his Star Wars & Star Trek reviews were good were a) he had literally YEARS worth of online discussion and analysis of those movies to metabolize and b) his schtick was still fresh feeling.

Stoklasa killed us all to death with those reviews because he just distilled all the great analysis written by tens of other (better) film writers into a much more easy to digest form, and then performed a very fun character.

Which is why when he goes back to Plinkett now, especially when it's only a couple days after an 88 second commercial has come out, it's so tired and empty. Because he doesn't have that knowledge base to draw from, and Plinkett isn't novel anymore, and even if he was, Stoklasa isn't doing him well anymore.

Trotting him out is just as perfunctory and rote as he makes it sound. Maybe that's part of the joke, but it's basically just that he knows this will give him hits so whether he wants to do it or not, he's gotta do it.
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I don't know if that's fair. He is giving it a chance. He isn't using the trailer as a chance to bash it. He not going to get drawn into the hype like with Phantom Menace again, but he is at least giving the film a chance to prove itself.
 
MagnaderAlpha said:
They'd try to hide it by some "creative" spelling(creatively bad spelling). Darth
Baad/Bahd
. Hell, Darth
Evol
. And for yucks sake, Darth Meengai.


If it's JUST "Starkiller"(not Darth), I can live with that.
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Yeah, I meant just Starkiller. Seems like a good operative name.
 
OricWindstar said:
Yeah, I really hope we end the trend of terrible Darth names. Even Darth Maul, cool as he is, has a stupid fucking name.
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I'm not up to speed with the expanded (or otherwise) universe, but is there some kind of naming ritual or something? I mean, I can see if they're named after their traits like Foxhound members (from Metal Gear Solid) or personality/physique/spirit like native Americans.
 
So I'm watching clips of all the movies (I have yet to get the Blurays, holding out for the originals to be rereleased), and I have to admit, I REALLY like episode 3. I don't even know why. The dialogue is still pretty bad, the acting isn't much better, but there's just something about it that I really enjoy.
 
I like the Darth names they used for the Prequel villains: Sidious, Maul, Tyranus, and Plagueis. Vadar is my favorite though. They all sounded great to me. Hopefully if they use the Darth title, that the next name will be equally iconic as those names.
 
MattyG said:
So I'm watching clips of all the movies (I have yet to get the Blurays, holding out for the originals to be rereleased), and I have to admit, I REALLY like episode 3. I don't even know why. The dialogue is still pretty bad, the acting isn't much better, but there's just something about it that I really enjoy.
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Episode 3 is great. Mystery solved!
 
Episode 3 was the most relevant to the rest of the Star Wars universe. It dropped a lot of the bullshit and got right into what had been building up for two movies. Still though, some of that Anakin dialogue was just painful.
 
injurai said:
Episode 3 was the most relevant to the rest of the Star Wars universe. It dropped a lot of the bullshit and got right into what had been building up for two movies. Still though, some of that Anakin dialogue was just painful.
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Everyone had terrible dialog
"Only a sith deals in absolutes"
Really, Lucas?!
 
brandonh83 said:
Episode 3 is great. Mystery solved!
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Well that was an easy mystery to solve :P
injurai said:
Episode 3 was the most relevant to the rest of the Star Wars universe. It dropped a lot of the bullshit and got right into what had been building up for two movies. Still though, some of that Anakin dialogue was just painful.
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This too. Episode 1 and 2 felt like it contained a ton of stuff that either should have been condensed into one movie or didn't even need to be told to us at all. Not that there isn't ANY important stuff in them, but 3 definitely had the most direct connections to the OT.
 
Abounder said:
I HATE YOU!
you're breaking my heart
etc

Han/Leia and Lando was much more fun
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I hate you! was actually really well done by Hayden. Despite some of his dialogue I thought Hayden was pretty awesome in 3.

Portman is the real loose end of that movie. God damn she is bad.
 
MattyG said:
This too. Episode 1 and 2 felt like it contained a ton of stuff that either should have been condensed into one movie or didn't even need to be told to us at all. Not that there isn't ANY important stuff in them, but 3 definitely had the most direct connections to the OT.
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It's made it's rounds on the internet, a video detailing how unnecessary ep1 was. But for all it's faults I feel it did something fresh and familiar to star wars than 2 and 3 did. I think Tatooine was a large part of it. Or opening with a Silver C3PO clone, then the lightsabers coming out of the fog. It felt new a bold, and for it's faults I still though ep2 would continue that trend.

But nope, 2 was a nose dive and a complete 180 in focus. Easily the worst. Awful exposition, sappy, brooding.

Then 3 shapes up and is a proper epic, despite for a slew of issues that the previous two movies set as precedence.

When I really think about it, all the back story needed for IV-VI was provided within IV-VI. So it's hard to really feel that the prequels offered much of value than showing us what's possible in the universe. A lot of ooh that's neat moments and not much else.
 
Abounder said:
I HATE YOU!
you're breaking my heart
etc

Han/Leia and Lando was much more fun
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I was always a little unclear as to why he said "I hate you". Was it because he cut your limbs off? Because you had that coming to you. Because you feel he made you hurt your wife? Nah, that's on you too. Maybe I'm not remembering something, but that always struck me as kind of an irrational thing to say. But then, I guess if I was burning alive I'd say some pretty irrational things too.

brandonh83 said:
I hate you! was actually really well done by Hayden. Despite some of his dialogue I thought Hayden was pretty awesome in 3.

Portman is the real loose end of that movie. God damn she is bad.
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Yup, even though his reasons for saying it confused me, I always thought it was a well acted line. And he just seems more comfortable in the role than in 2, especially in the earlier scenes. Definitely one of my favorite performances of the PT.
 
injurai said:
It's made it's rounds on the internet, a video detailing how unnecessary ep1 was. But for all it's faults I feel it did something fresh and familiar to star wars than 2 and 3 did. I think Tatooine was a large part of it. Or opening with a Silver C3PO clone, then the lightsabers coming out of the fog. It felt new a bold, and for it's faults I still though ep2 would continue that trend.

But nope, 2 was a nose dive and a complete 180 in focus. Easily the worst. Awful exposition, sappy, brooding.

Then 3 shapes up and is a proper epic, despite for a slew of issues that the previous two movies set as precedence.

When I really think about it, all the back story needed for IV-VI was provided within IV-VI. So it's hard to really feel that the prequels offered much of value than showing us what's possible in the universe. A lot of ooh that's neat moments and not much else.
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If they had just not had the whole romance subplot running throughout I feel Episode 2 would be much better. Like the assassination attempt happens and then Anakin and Obi Wan team up, track jango, discover the clones. They separate so anakin can go kill sand people and Obi Wan is captured on geonosis and then enter clone army to blow shit up. Dooku comes in and wrecks and we get a tiny hint at a romance subplot as the credits close and then Episode 3 roles around.
 
MattyG said:
I was always a little unclear as to why he said "I hate you". Was it because he cut your limbs off? Because you had that coming to you. Because you feel he made you hurt your wife? Nah, that's on you too. Maybe I'm not remembering something, but that always struck me as kind of an irrational thing to say. But then, I guess if I was burning alive I'd say some pretty irrational things too.

As someone above said, I thought that line was pretty well acted though.
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Or because he was a remainder of what he had lost from himself.
 
MoonsaultSlayer said:
I'm not up to speed with the expanded (or otherwise) universe, but is there some kind of naming ritual or something? I mean, I can see if they're named after their traits like Foxhound members (from Metal Gear Solid) or personality/physique/spirit like native Americans.
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I have no idea, actually. The only EU stuff I'm familiar with is through video games.

That's another thing that annoyed me about the prequels. When Palpatine is giving Anakin his Darth title, he just seems to pick Vader out of nowhere. Like, there's no significance to it. It's just Vader because it has to be Vader because we know where the story is going.
 
OricWindstar said:
I have no idea, actually. The only EU stuff I'm familiar with is through video games.

That's another thing that annoyed me about the prequels. When Palpatine is giving Anakin his Darth title, he just seems to pick Vader out of nowhere. Like, there's no significance to it. It's just Vader because it has to be Vader because we know where the story is going.
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Having judged the young Palpatine worthy of joining the Sith after he murdered his family, Darth Plagueis formally initiated him into the cult.[1] From the time of Darth Bane onward, it was common for Sith names to begin with the forename Darth, a moniker that was as much a title as it was a name.[23] Many factors went into deciding on the second name. At least one, based on observed ceremonies, is that Sith masters would enter a kind of communion with the dark side of the Force, question it, and within it find inspiration, an answer.[24] In Palpatine, Plagueis saw a being completely lacking in empathy, ambitious, arrogant, and insidious. Palpatine genuflected before his master, pledged his undying allegiance to the Sith Order, and the Dark Lord of the Sith proclaimed him his new apprentice under the name Darth Sidious.[1]
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just added the link to show where I got it from
 
Secret_Riddle said:
Um.. how does a british accent + looking panicked after a plane crash (or whatever) = goofball? Such a weird conclusion to make after only a single shot... which, in the trailer at least, is set up to be pretty sudden and intense. Not sure where you're getting the comedic angle.

Wouldn't be surprised if he's the most comparable to Luke. Do you have any particular reason why such an arc wouldn't work for him?



I think he's probably a deserter. Either that, or he's been stranded from his unit. I bet he's a new recruit who gets tied up in some stuff and ends up turning against The Empire.

In the shot of the stormtroopers preparing for deployment, the middle one is clearly shorter than the others. That's probably Boyega. Probably a wink to the, "aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper?" line.
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Judging it based on Attack the block. Sucks but his accent isn't a traditional hero accent, (or rather in the same vein as luke, that's why I said similar to Solo) it's, at least for American audiences gonna be seen as kinda goofy. That and the shot in the trailer looks sorta like a "Oh shit that just happened" rather than a serious scene. IDK, just my guess. I think more than likely he's a rebel plant or something.
 
Kinyou said:
You should do a review about the decline of plinkett reviews
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I just did, sleepy-eyes! You quoted it!

Dr. Forester said:
I don't know if that's fair. He is giving it a chance.
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I didn't say he wasn't. I said his critical analyses are dependent on having other, smarter people provide lengthy critical analyses to then synthesize for his own purposes (which is why nothing he's done since the Trek/Wars reviews is even near as in-depth or insightful with regards to filmmaking, because there's not as much shit for him to glom onto) and so trotting out the Plinkett character (which had an expiration date) to do a quick video on the commercial (which was 2 days old and 88 seconds long) is going to come off as extra rote and perfunctory. Which it was.

Seesaw15 said:
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Well, considering my very next sentence after the bolded was "Maybe that's the joke" then yeah - I think I fuckin' noticed.

It's like you quoted the whole post and then didn't read the motherfucker once your snappy-retort boner started straining your jeans. :)
 
Toxi said:
I like a lot of the changes, but one of the things that bugs me is the limited number of locales. Changing Naboo to Alderaan, removing Kamino, and setting most of Episode 2 on Alderaan makes the whole setting feel a lot smaller.
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I was drooling over the ideas that he introduced for ep2. Seeing more of Alderaan, and that whole invested sense of character relationships.

Honestly in the prequels it feels like the characters have no lives beyond there scenes. They exist merely to push things along canned set pieces.
 
injurai said:
I was drooling over the ideas that he introduced for ep2. Seeing more of Alderaan, and that whole invested sense of character relationships.

Honestly in the prequels it feels like the characters have no lives beyond there scenes. They exist merely to push things along canned set pieces.
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True, but you can shift to more character-focused works without setting most of the movies on two planets we already saw in the old trilogy. It's that sort of fanservice-y nonsense that made the prequels feel so small. How is Tatooine a remote place if everything happens there?

I really like the Episode 2 changes outside of that, especially how he took a very disjointed politics-heavy movie and changed it to be tight and understandable. Episode 1 changes are a bit less exciting; it just sounds like the original Star Wars outside the interesting Obi-Wan and Anakin jealousy.
 
Toxi said:
True, but you can shift to more character-focused works without setting most of the movies on two planets we already saw in the old trilogy. It's that sort of fanservice-y nonsense that made the prequels feel so small. How is Tatooine a remote place if everything happens there?
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I never saw Alderaan... I saw some Asteroids that shouldn't have been there.

Honestly, Alderaan was made to be a huge centerfold to the political climate of the OT. It would make sense it was a staging ground for much of the Rebellion. That should and needed to be explored.

Making the middle of 2 movies very tight and focused is a great thing. It's where the meat of the development should happen. Where the 1st is setting the tone, and 3 is the climax and conclusion.
 
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