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[Seesaw15]

Well, considering my very next sentence after the bolded was "Maybe that's the joke" then yeah - I think I fuckin' noticed.

It's like you quoted the whole post and then didn't read the motherfucker once your snappy-retort boner started straining your jeans.

I honestly couldn't tell. You spent the bulk of your post critiquing the video as if it was meant to be a serious review that failed than hedged your bets by calling it a cynical cash grab. I don't know if you follow any of Redlettermedia's stuff outside of the Plinkett reviews but you seemed kind of ill informed.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I honestly couldn't tell.

Again - it was the sentence right after the one you bolded

You literally tried to "burn" me with a gif saying the exact thing I already said. Which you quoted.

Read things.

 

[Odrion]

Yup, this looks like a trailer by the guy who did the modern Star Trek films.

 

[Jaeger]

Yeah, I really hope we end the trend of terrible Darth names. Even Darth Maul, cool as he is, has a stupid fucking name.

I agree. I love names like "Starkiller". In my view, there is only "Darth Vader".

 

[DOWN]

I like this trailer, but am I crazy for thinking it looks more fake than some of the original trilogy? There was something that looked so real about the ships in the old movies that CGI doesn't replicate. I can just tell there's so much CGI, but I think it won't be hard to look past like many films these days.

 

[triplestation]

1983 interview with Hamill, talking about Lucas and a sequel to RotJ.

DAMN

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

^ Wow, so he really was playing the long game with this thing from the get go. So has Lucas had any involvement with the general beats/outline for the new trilogy, or is it really all from Arndt and Kasdan? No doubt a script like this has committee involvement as well.

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

^ Wow, so he really was playing the long game with this thing from the get go. So has Lucas had any involvement with the general beats/outline for the new trilogy, or is it really all from Arndt and Kasdan? No doubt a script like this has committee involvement as well.

JJ and Kasdan.

Arndt's stuff was scrapped.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

^ Wow, so he really was playing the long game with this thing from the get go.

...not really. I mean, yeah, kinda. But not really.

 

[guek]

Obligatory

What if Star Wars Episode I was good?

and

What if Star Wars Episode II was good?

While a whole lot of fun, his episode II rewrite isn't as good as his episode I edit.

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

Yeah I just found this from an older io9 article,

The Hollywood Reporter's Heat Vision blog quotes unnamed sources as saying that Toy Story 3 writer Arndt (and original Star Wars creator George Lucas) wanted Episode VII to be about the children of Luke, Leia and Han Solo, but director J.J. Abrams disagreed:

Arndt is said to have focused on the offspring of Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill), Han Solo (Harrison Ford) and Princess Leia (Carrie Fisher), with the original trilogy heroes taking on supporting roles. Abrams, however, wanted Episode VII to focus on the classic trio of characters, so audiences could have one more chance to enjoy them before a fitting send-off. The new characters, the offspring, will now be in supporting roles, according to these sources, and take center stage in Episode VIII and IX. Some characters have disappeared from the Arndt script and new ones are being drafted.

http://io9.com/michael-arndts-scrapped-star-wars-story-was-about-luke-1499732754

Personally I'm glad it was scrapped, having more time with OG cast for the first one will be more satisfying imo (depending how it's handled of course).

 

[scoobs]

Darth Maul "dying" (I know he comes back in the animated series but who cares about that) is the biggest wasted opportunity ever. Dude was such a badass and had so much potential to be the overarching bad guy of episodes 1-3 alongside the emperor (much like Vader was).

God damn Lucas fucked up the prequels so bad it hurts.

 

[bananafactory]

I got bored and decided to see what Episode 4 would look like if it had a teaser like The Force Awakens. I'm pretty bad with video stuff so sorry if some of the timing is off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lm19kYTn3c&feature=youtu.be

 

[Bobby Roberts]

I got bored and decided to see what Episode 4 would look like if it had a teaser like The Force Awakens. I'm pretty bad with video stuff so sorry if some of the timing is off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lm19kYTn3c&feature=youtu.be

That's a pretty decent rough draft. Some good ideas in there.

 

[Fjordson]

New Plinkett

Amazing as always.

This GIF finally was made for the Episode VII Teaser. It pretty much sums up my first view (and every subsequent view) of the teaser:

Also amazing.

 

[bananafactory]

That's a pretty decent rough draft. Some good ideas in there.

It'd be a lot better if I wasn't lazy and actually took time to use a rip of the whole movie.

I just grabbed scenes I could find on Youtube which means lots of them were too short hence why there's more black screen then there should be.

 

[triplestation]

I got bored and decided to see what Episode 4 would look like if it had a teaser like The Force Awakens. I'm pretty bad with video stuff so sorry if some of the timing is off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lm19kYTn3c&feature=youtu.be

I thought it ended strong in an old school kinda way

Nice work m8

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

I got bored and decided to see what Episode 4 would look like if it had a teaser like The Force Awakens. I'm pretty bad with video stuff so sorry if some of the timing is off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lm19kYTn3c&feature=youtu.be

Ha not bad, only thing that didn't really match with the music was artoo and threepio stumbling around while hell was breaking loose lol. Other than that pretty good

 

[bananafactory]

Ha not bad, only thing that didn't really match with the music was artoo and threepio stumbling around while hell was breaking loose lol. Other than that pretty good

Haha yeah I wanted to find a scene when R2 is in the desert rolling around but that stupid hallway scene was the only shot of him I could find on youtube

 

[disappeared]

I just hope they don't completely remove Hamill, Fisher, and Ford from VIII and IX in light of focusing on the new generation of characters. Keep Luke, Leia, and Han as supportive roles, like Guiness was as Obi-Wan in IV-VI.

 

[CitizenVectron]

I just hope they don't completely remove Hamill, Fisher, and Ford from VIII and IX in light of focusing on the new generation of characters. Keep Luke, Leia, and Han as supportive roles, like Guiness was as Obi-Wan in IV-VI.

Obviously I don't know anything, but I would guess that Han dies in VII, and for VIII and IX Luke is an Obi-Wan/Yoda type figure (5-15 min in each one) and Leia a Mon Mothma type figure (5 min).

 

[Kinyou]

I just did, sleepy-eyes! You quoted it!

But I want it on youtube with a funny voiceover and occasional jokes about dead wives

 

[wanderingprostheyltite]

I just hope they don't completely remove Hamill, Fisher, and Ford from VIII and IX in light of focusing on the new generation of characters. Keep Luke, Leia, and Han as supportive roles, like Guiness was as Obi-Wan in IV-VI.

They can just be ghost bros chillin in the background.

Spoiler

Please don't do this to Luke

 

[Darth Pinche]

Ah, interesting. Well, Vader is still the only Darth title that doesn't suck.

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

 

[LookAtMeGo]

I couldn't contain my excitement when I saw this. I literally leaned back and let loose an evil cackle. I think its going to be awesome. I also love the lightsaber that looks like a sword with a guard.

 

[A Human Becoming]

1983 interview with Hamill, talking about Lucas and a sequel to RotJ.

Lucas's belief in the franchise and foresight are impressive.

 

[SargerusBR]

I find your lack of faith disturbing.

Darth Pinche
Member

 

[Akahige]

Yeah I just found this from an older io9 article,



http://io9.com/michael-arndts-scrapped-star-wars-story-was-about-luke-1499732754

Personally I'm glad it was scrapped, having more time with OG cast for the first one will be more satisfying imo (depending how it's handled of course).

I don't know how much I like the offspring of the three leads having the leading roles, it seems kind of idk too easy but I guess it makes them more relatable to audience plus one falling to the dark side would make for interesting plotlines.

I could see Daisy and Adam being the daughter and son of Han and Leia.

 

[StuBurns]

I don't know how much I like the offspring of the three leads having the leading roles, it seems kind of idk too easy but I guess it makes them more relatable to audience plus one falling to the dark side would make for interesting plotlines.

I could see Daisy and Adam being the daughter and son of Han and Leia.

The strength of the force is hereditary.

 

[Jables Swan]

New Plinkett

I've never seen the Phantom Menace video, but I don't find this video funny at all. People seem to like it though.

 

[The Real Abed]

I've never seen the Phantom Menace video, but I don't find this video funny at all. People seem to like it though.

Then you should see the Phantom Menace video. It will open your eyes and show you a world you have never seen before. Then watch the other two. Then continue on to the Star Trek videos. Then Baby's Day Out. If you haven't seen his reviews before then you're not going to get this video at all. It all makes sense when you understand the context.

 

[Musolf815]

1983 interview with Hamill, talking about Lucas and a sequel to RotJ.

That's awesome. I've always been curious about Lucas' plans for VII/VIII/IX, he seemed to at least have a few ideas. Like this quote from him on the Wookiepedia page for the sequel trilogy (apparently this was from around Empire Strikes Back's release):

"The prequel stories exist—where Darth Vader came from, the whole story about Darth and Ben Kenobi—and it all takes place before Luke was born. The other one—what happens to Luke afterward—is much more ethereal. I have a tiny notebook full of notes on that. If I'm really ambitious, I could proceed to figure out what would have happened to Luke."

 

[Jables Swan]

Then you should see the Phantom Menace video. It will open your eyes and show you a world you have never seen before. Then watch the other two. Then continue on to the Star Trek videos. Then Baby's Day Out. If you haven't seen his reviews before then you're not going to get this video at all. It all makes sense when you understand the context.

Cool, thanks. I'll check them out.

 

[televator]

Seriously though, that millennium Falcon intro is just so...

 

[triplestation]

Seriously though, that millennium Falcon intro is just so...

Yes!!!

And that music!!

That's the point in the teaser that turned the switch back on to let us know that star wars is back

 

[OricWindstar]

Then you should see the Phantom Menace video. It will open your eyes and show you a world you have never seen before. Then watch the other two. Then continue on to the Star Trek videos. Then Baby's Day Out. If you haven't seen his reviews before then you're not going to get this video at all. It all makes sense when you understand the context.

Cop Dog is also a must.

 

[rekameohs]

Then you should see the Phantom Menace video. It will open your eyes and show you a world you have never seen before. Then watch the other two. Then continue on to the Star Trek videos. Then Baby's Day Out. If you haven't seen his reviews before then you're not going to get this video at all. It all makes sense when you understand the context.

Baby's Day Out is secretly the best review.

Well, that and Jack and Jill, but that's in Half in the Bag.

 

[Dead Man]

God I hope they are done with the stupid Darth suffixes. I don't mind if they have a new proto Darth, self given title or whatever ever, but jesus the names have been bad in the EU and prequels.

Again - it was the sentence right after the one you bolded

You literally tried to "burn" me with a gif saying the exact thing I already said. Which you quoted.

Read things.

They did, they read your rant, and then replied to the main thrust of your post. You can't just cover your arse and expect people not to focus on the body of the text.

 

[Veelk]

They did, they read your rant, and then replied to the main thrust of your post. You can't just cover your arse and expect people not to focus on the body of the text.

I expect people to read my posts wholly and not skim over. Because otherwise, exactly what occurred now happens. They try to counter with a point that he literally addresses the very next line that the guy is responding to.

It's basic reading comprehension.

 

[Dead Man]

I expect people to read my posts wholly and not skim over. Because otherwise, exactly what occurred now happens. They try to counter with a point that he literally addresses the very next line that the guy is responding to.

It's basic reading comprehension.

Eh, I see the argument you are making, but when 95% of a post is 'Thing sucks' and then 'Unless that's the joke', I don't think it';s too out of line for people to respond by saying, 'yeah, that's the joke, why did you go on that rant?'

 

[temp]

Darth Brooks.

Hahahaha

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

I've made my explainations known, but I think this fan rendition isn't too bad.

I really like that actually. Looks like an ancient saber, could even play it off as being Bane's.

The one in the trailer doesn't look ancient, it looks experimental, like it was jerry-rigged by somebody with no formal training in lightsaber construction.

 

[Alx]

Seriously though, that millennium Falcon intro is just so...

It's funny how the Falcon is regarded as one of the coolest elements of the saga, when all the characters were joking on how shitty it looks in Episode 4.
"You came in that thing ? You're braver than I thought..."

 

[SCULLIBUNDO]

It's funny how the Falcon is regarded as one of the coolest elements of the saga, when all the characters were joking on how shitty it looks in Episode 4.
"You came in that thing ? You're braver than I thought..."

She's got it where it counts.

 

[Death Metalist]

New Plinkett

The only reaction worth caring about! Thanks for sharing.

"lets speculate endlessly about a movie that when it comes out we'll all forget about it in a week"

 

[StuBurns]

The fact it's shit looking is what's so awesome about it. It's the whole 'underdog' thing people love.

 

[Nekofrog]

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAAACE

 

[lifa-cobex]

New Plinkett

"More like Kerry throw her back in the lake"
XD

 

[Triggerhappytel]

God I hope they are done with the stupid Darth suffixes. I don't mind if they have a new proto Darth, self given title or whatever ever, but jesus the names have been bad in the EU and prequels.

The villain shall be called Darth Secretus!

 

[UrbanRats]

YO you left the door open for me!

So, it was eh. Which is expected. Again, the reason his Star Wars & Star Trek reviews were good were a) he had literally YEARS worth of online discussion and analysis of those movies to metabolize and b) his schtick was still fresh feeling.

Stoklasa killed us all to death with those reviews because he just distilled all the great analysis written by tens of other (better) film writers into a much more easy to digest form, and then performed a very fun character.

Which is why when he goes back to Plinkett now, especially when it's only a couple days after an 88 second commercial has come out, it's so tired and empty. Because he doesn't have that knowledge base to draw from, and Plinkett isn't novel anymore, and even if he was, Stoklasa isn't doing him well anymore.

Trotting him out is just as perfunctory and rote as he makes it sound. Maybe that's part of the joke, but it's basically just that he knows this will give him hits so whether he wants to do it or not, he's gotta do it.

i don't even disagree with you.
i just think those reviews should be seen as entertainment first, and "serious" analysis second (they do make some good points about why the PT is so underwhelming and boring, but they nitpick in a way that's funny yet often inconsequential and could be applied perfectly to the OT, in many cases).

Even other Plinkett reviews like COPDOG or Baby's DayOut, don't concentrate half as much on the film critique, and go right for the funny bit, and they still work.
Only, they found a much better format for that, which is Best of the Worst/Wheel of the Worst, where they watch movies they know are bad from the start.
it's why i don't love Half in the Bag as much, i often disagree with their opinions on movies and they don't go in interesting detail or anything, so if you take out the funny, there is no other reason to watch.

Still, the Plinket reviews were all pretty good, for that very reason.