NotTheGuyYouKill
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More arrows to the knee. Then arrows to the elbows. Then barbed arrows to the knees that cause more damage to pull out. Then a beat down to the face. Then stabbed through the chest. With an arrow. Multiple arrows.
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More arrows to the knee. Then arrows to the elbows. Then barbed arrows to the knees that cause more damage to pull out. Then a beat down to the face. Then stabbed through the chest. With an arrow. Multiple arrows.
More_Badass
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Love this shot. It's very Man of Steel-esque, like this is what a normal person would perceive while dealing with someone moving at superspeed
Throw SHIELD into the mix & you have a week of comic book insanity.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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If they can do that for Flash, then I'm not worried at all about the effects for Supergirl. They were awesome last night.
Hoooooooly fuck yeah
And then Agent Carter at the start of 2015 to take us to a fever pitch. Nerdgasm.
Did you know the Russo brothers are directing episodes 2 and 3 of Agent Carter and Joe Johnston, director of First Avenger, is directing episode 4? I'm seriously contemplating making a thread about it towards the end of the year since most people probably don't know and it might garner some much deserved buzz.
He needs to keep doing it to freak us out.
"So we need some lighting for the Star Labs barbecue... should I use the red lantern or the green lantern?"
Napoleonthechimp
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I still don't get how he managed that. Super speed or not how does anyone have control over specific molecules in their body?
My only two complaints of the episode would be that we don't actually see them bag the metahuman and Barry suddenly displayed a control over his abilities that he's never had before.
But that is Barry... he adapt to the situation and thinks of a solutions in the spot.
Jest Chillin
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When he runs faster, his body metabolizes everything even faster than it already does. So that was him basically "sweating out" the tranq. They just showed it as colored mist for visual recognition of what was happening.
Kung Fu Jedi
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Exactly how I felt. Wanted to see Barry and Ollie take down the bad guy, and it was a little annoying that Barry suddenly had all kinds of new tricks up his sleeve, and greater control of his abilities, than we have seen so far. Heck, some of the best parts of recent episodes have been him pushing the limits of his abilities as he learns what he is capable of.
All that said, I really enjoyed the episode, and I'm looking forward to tonight's Arrow as well. Seeing both casts together has been a joy, and the chemistry is great.
More_Badass
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Rewatching the episode and had a crazy idea. So we know there are the red and yellow blurs when Barry's mom was killed, indicating that it's Barry and Reverse Flash fighting. How awesome would it be if the season ends with that fight, but Barry saves his mother and then Season 2 is the Arrow/Flashverse version of Flashpoint?
Jest Chillin
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Cousin I think, and yeah. Nice of Berlanti to get him work after his show got canned.
ah okay...still...wonder if they get any screentime together later on.
Nabs
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Here are some ideas from the Arrow thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140933722&postcount=5205 and http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=140935657&postcount=5208
More_Badass
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Anyone else think Iris' change of opinion about Flash felt really abrupt?
Kung Fu Jedi
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I actually thought it was appropriate considering she just watched her boyfriend get the crap kicked out of him by a guy she thought was a good man.
There is no way that Arrow could take down the Flash unless the Flash were holding back.
The preview sort of made this clearer: "When we fight, you look like you're moving in slow motion." And it's not even being fair to the difference in speed - there are things Flash has been doing in this episode and some of the more recent ones that would require him easily breaking Mach speeds. Hell, if you tried to calculate the speed necessary to dodge a bullet from a dead stop, the thought of someone actually hitting the person capable of that reaction time becomes ludicrous.
Whatever the case, it was fun. I enjoyed the episode.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
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As a fan of both shows the scene where flash fought arrow. Arrow won no contest he was calm the hole time the bit where flash let go off the rope and arrow was falling I was like oh shit
That just seems to crazy and fringe-like, maybe season 4 or 5?
But it would be awesome
I don't really think it matters honestly, but still, I can't agree. Barry was out for blood. He dropped Arrow of that building which would have killed him. If anything, it was Arrow that held back, he didn't want to hurt his friend who was clearly under the influence.
I think in a year or two, it's a whole different ball game though. Barry is still a super power infant.
TacticalFox88
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DC and co made a HUGE mistake not casting Grant Austin for BvS.
Austin pretty much owns the role.
Austin pretty much owns the role.
TheVampire
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After all those high speed punches shouldn't Arrow be crippled and unable to fight or move?
I wish he was blonde but at this point I don't care, he's amazing as Barry.
I remember the comments when it was first announced, "he looks like he's 18" "that guy from Glee... really?" Good times.
By the way, it's Gustin not Austin.
After all those high speed punches shouldn't Arrow be crippled and unable to fight or move?
Barry's a pansy though. It's like getting slapped a thousand times with a wet noodle.
Plasticine
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Barry is lucky he met up with kinder gentler Ollie.
If he fought Season 1 Serial Killer Ollie, that fight ending choke hold would have ended with a snap, instead of a fancy light show. Ollie would have claimed Barry's mask as a trophy. He would have worn it while sexing up Iris on Barry's grave. That's just how he rolled back then.
More_Badass
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He should have done his supersonic punch and put a fist through Ollie's chest!
I have to say, my favourite part of the fight was when Ollie tried to escape and he cut his rope from the building. They definitely weighed the fight really well - they illustrated that Flash has some scary powers at his disposal, even able to stop a quick escape, but wit and countermeasures allowed Ollie to survive long enough. Great fight.
I thought the secret identity conversation with Iris was a nice touch too - where she asked if he had a real name and he responded "What, like Ralph?"
Direct quote from this scene
I thought the secret identity conversation with Iris was a nice touch too - where she asked if he had a real name and he responded "What, like Ralph?"
Direct quote from this scene
After all those high speed punches shouldn't Arrow be crippled and unable to fight or move?
If it was comic Barry then I mean yeah Arrow would be on the floor but since I'm just gonna say that this Flash is inexperienced.
Is it just me or does that look like Grant Gustin in the Reverse-Flash suit? Is it possible they went OG Reverse-Flash in that Eobard Thawne of the future gets plastic surgery to make himself look like Barry Allen? That would explain how he can be seen with in the same scene with Eddie and Wells.
After all those high speed punches shouldn't Arrow be crippled and unable to fight or move?
Looks like an Injustice super.
There's an Arrow skin for Green Arrow in that game, so you can replicate this fight in the game!
Jest Chillin
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Pretty much. Speed doesn't equate to power if he doesn't know how to throw properly. My guess is Ollie should probably be pretty bruised up but nothing broken.
It's not just a skin, the voice acting is actually done by Amell!
Jest Chillin
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Flash can only hit his top speeds when he taps into the Speed Force and it appears that in the show, he needs sufficient emotional investment. Even though he was raging in this latest episode, he never appeared to get the Speed Force.
As it stands currently, Arrow's experience would win out. Barry is too green at the moment. He's fairly one dimensional, primarily relying on pure speed. He's way too vulnerable to traps especially.
As Ollie said "you could case the entire place beforehand, you have the time". And this is true, Barry could have literally checked that entire barn+fields for traps in like 1 second.
He could run into a building and actually check the entire thing for traps/ambushes/etc.. without the bad guy even noticing him really.
His footwork is shitty too, those punches don't have any weight to them.
Barry is still ultimately just a nerd who has never been athletic with access to super speed. He has very little physical discipline or mental training.
He was raging last episode, to the point where he beat the crap out of Eddie and attempted to kill Ollie. No way was he holding back while Ollie clearly avoided putting him down for good. That arrow throw to the leg could have easily been Barry's heart or between the eyes. It takes more than owning a gun to know how to shoot, the same goes for fighting.
He was raging last episode, to the point where he beat the crap out of Eddie and attempted to kill Ollie. No way was he holding back while Ollie clearly avoided putting him down for good. That arrow throw to the leg could have easily been Barry's heart or between the eyes. It takes more than owning a gun to know how to shoot, the same goes for fighting.
Well his fast metabolism was also the explanation for him becoming angry over such a long period of time. You'd think he'd get over it more quickly.
More_Badass
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I don't know, I think the shift happening in one episode was the sudden part.
The reasonable thing for Barry to do is approach Eddie and apologize, explaining brifely what happened and how he doesn't want to put iris in any danger so he'll try to stay away. Even if Eddie doesn't believe him right away (and why would he), it would still go a long way towards making sure he doesn't have a detective relentlessly hunting him.
But this is the CW and we need our DRAMA
shiftplusone
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I think it's something like when Scarlet witch fucked with ice man and abused his powers to a ridiculous level that Bobby didn't know was possible. Working on blind rage. He may not be able to just do that next week, we'll have to see
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Fuck yeah. Season 1 Ollie was GOAT.
Definitely. Barry is too naive, green, and reckless.
I'm caught up on Arrow again so I decided to start this series since they're linked. I'm on the first episode so I won't read much of this thread until I'm caught up, but I do have one question:
Is the red and yellow tornado at the beginning future Barry and Professor Zoom fighting through time?
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Barry was such an asshole this episode. I totally buy Iris telling him to fuck off and Eddie being boldened to set up a task force. They are both in the right and Barry fucked up royally.
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