Freshmaker
I am Korean.
A clone character that's super annoying and badly designed to boot? What's not to like?
Tekken 7 - Lucky Chloe revealed
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A clone character that's super annoying and badly designed to boot? What's not to like?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Tekken is my favorite serious fighting game series. I love how it's always taken itself super serious.
Dyson Industries
Banned
The irony is thick with this one.
KimonoNoNo
Member
But isn't Chloe the first new character reveal trailer though?
The first we've known about Chloe was from this trailer. She hasn't been hinted at before, not like that possible Arab fighter whose design was put up for community feedback.
I just think that if they had done the reveal trailer for him first, most of the negative reactions against Chloe would of been more muted.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
I hate how criticism has changed from "I dont like because X" to "This is horrible and is ruining everything and shouldn't exist"
When you call that out too the only response you get "Its just criticizing" its not though, its not.
This design, I could do without the headphones and the jacket could have just ended as a jacket and not added the catpaws.
When you call that out too the only response you get "Its just criticizing" its not though, its not.
This design, I could do without the headphones and the jacket could have just ended as a jacket and not added the catpaws.
The shere amount of content present in Tekken games, all on disc or free DLC, has made me love Harada and the team over at Namco to an extent in which they can do no harm in my view.
As soon as I've figured out the 'bullshit' characters like Lars and Alisa and started to counter, parry and read their moves, it became a level playing field again.
As soon as I've figured out the 'bullshit' characters like Lars and Alisa and started to counter, parry and read their moves, it became a level playing field again.
YoYo Switch
Banned
#ChloeGate
eyeball_kid
Member
Tekken is my favorite serious fighting game series. I love how it's always taken itself super serious.
Thing is, Tekken started out not taking itself seriously at all. That's what made it so fun. Characters like Heihachi, Paul, Armor King, and Jack were supposed to be super tough, but they were so goofy and over-the-top that you couldn't help but laugh. Yoshi was weird as hell, yet he was also a badass in spite of it. Xiaoyu was cute and annoying, but that was restrained, it was part of her personality, and it fit in with her fighting style. The general tone of Tekken in the early titles was just irreverent and playing with convention. Dinosaurs and kangaroos and bears, who cares? Tekken Ball and and Tekken Bowl. Just silly shit that was fun.
But around Tekken 5 things changed. We started getting brooding emo characters who Namco designed as SERIOUS BUSINESS, like Lars and Dragonov. Or Marduk, who was some roided-out WWE brawler with no sense of playfulness and silliness at all. Everything suddenly became serious (and I'm not talking about online customization here), whether in Japanese or Western convention, and that's when things started going off the rails. When a soap opera takes itself seriously, it has a problem. Characters became conventional, tropey. Even characters like Chloe who are by design anti-serious, are designed to be cute and silly in a manufactured, superficial way. "Look at me, I'm so moe!" vs. "This character is so weird, I can't stop laughing".
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Every single Tekken character from the game's inception was tropey.
eyeball_kid
Member
Well, some of them relied on tropes, I'll give you that, but they certainly weren't conventional (except Law and Lei), and they weren't designed to be 'serious'. You could tell the team was just having fun and designing stuff that would make them laugh.
Oh wow that one flew right over my head.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
She actually seemed like a cool character to play as. Fuck you guys for not having her be playable in the NA version.
lol thisTekken is my favorite serious fighting game series. I love how it's always taken itself super serious.
Air Zombie Meat
Member
Calm down, we managed to get a muscular skinhead with powerful attacks exclusive for the na version. A victory for neogaf I'd say.
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Deleted member 1235
Unconfirmed Member
best response. what weird deeply lame shit
Sometimes I forget this is a Japanese game...
The Lone Dragon
Member
People who still think the complaint center around her "being too silly" or "out of place" need to actually try reading the thread.
Many people have already explained in great detail that it's not that at all.
Many people have already explained in great detail that it's not that at all.
Idempotent Button
Banned
So is this the thread that generated Harada's pissed off responses, or what? I'm confused.
Anyway: No fun allowed.
What a shame.
Anyway: No fun allowed.
What a shame.
Infernal Monkey
Member
Okay. So you'd be okay with Lucky Chloe if she was an unlockable character, then? For someone who doesn't give a shit about the franchise you seem to value its storyline a lot.
Razzorn34
Member
Maybe they should have. No one gives a shit about Rufus. He's at the bottom of every popularity list.
And at the top of SO MANY tourneys.
Razzorn34
Member
It's only because he's in the upper tiers overall. Not because people enjoy anything about his moves or aesthetics.
That's the joke.
Guess I just imagined Jin existing from 3 on then, and I mean Kazuya never brooded, no siree, you know if you have to make up shit to support your point maybe it isnt such a great point after all? Are people simply too self conscious and insecure to admit they simply dont like Chloe without constructing "ITS ALL CHANGED!" bullshit out of whole cloth?
NeOak
Member
ITT: People whining about a character.
Thanks to all of those who didn't like her.
Harada-san should actually include a list of people in the game in a special "New Stereotypical 'MURICAH character inspired by" and list all the whiners there.
Idempotent Button
Banned
Or just name the new manly character Neo.
Or maybe I just think her design is stupid as fuck.
I'm allowed to have an opinion, right?
If he wants to include her in the game, whatever. Doesn't bother me.
Idempotent Button
Banned
Totally, so long as it doesn't screw over everyone that doesn't share that opinion.
Leafhopper
Banned
What if she fought like Voldo? This is Soul Calibur 5 created characters before someone asks.
Rats Off To Ya
Banned
Mr. Pointy
Member
I'm pretty sure Harada is trolling.
Also, he needs to get back on TV so I can get another season of Jersey Shore.
Also, he needs to get back on TV so I can get another season of Jersey Shore.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
This doesn't make sense. No one is being screwed over since Harada is just kidding. Even if he was serious you can't blame disappointed fans for sharing their opinion on a character design.
Idempotent Button
Banned
Sure I can, if they don't do it with some tact and acknowledge that poison to one may be pleasure to another. There are plenty of things I find weird or yucky, but I will still defend the rights of others to enjoy them. You know, to each his own and all that.
For the record, the design isn't all that appealing to me, but hey; whatever floats the collective boat. I'm fine with it.
Tye The Czar
Member
Making him actually a boy would be pretty cool. It would drive everyone even more batty.
I'm not talking about the male portion of the cast here. They have their own problems. I don't like Lucky Chloe, but that doesn't mean I want a dude in her place, I just think that the female roster has much more room for expansion in directions other than where Lucky Chloe takes it.
TomcatTheLion
Member
Made these because of course I would.
Bridget returns... to a different series.
Exactly, theres giving an honest opinion on something and then theres acting like a petulant child spewing out shit
Osu 16 Bit
Member
She's a video game character, I don't know why we need to walk on egg shells about it. The majority of the hate for her was just people saying they don't like her or the direction Tekken has been going. It's been fairly tame from what I've seen and been a part of. When Harada was emo last night this thread wasn't out of control or anything. I honestly don't know what you guys are talking about here, acting like there is this HUGE outrage and everyone who doesn't like her is going ape shit and demanding more bald men characters. Seems like a strawman to me.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Chloe being a guy would be super funny and interesting. Weird in a good way. I'd like her then.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That jacket is so bad 
Uno Venova
Banned
i can't buy this game on principle with how annoyed that one character makes me
Idempotent Button
Banned
Trolling for publicity maybe? Heh.
If they did her right I would.
If they made her into something that promotes a negative image of transgendered folk, I would boycott the game.
After a robotic soldier, two robotic soldiers, a robotic ninja, a robotic robot, a panda, a bear, a kangaroo, a dinosaur, two dinosaurs, a breakdancing handicapped doctor, a vampire, an angel, a devil, a demon, two demons, several demons, a bunch of walking wood chunks...
...that's where Tekken fans draw the line? A catgirl?
...that's where Tekken fans draw the line? A catgirl?