Sony Japan may force Sony Pictures to give up Spider-Man says Latino-Review
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Mushroomer25
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Yeah, that was embarrassing.
Either way, I'm waiting for less rumor-happy sites to jump on this.
Yeah, not buying it....
Besides, where would Marvel have time to fit three Spiderman movies? Even if there was a cameo in Civil War, Spidey woudln't show up again until 2019.
Spidey is big enough for them to make room. This is a non-issue.
Bobby Roberts
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I don't think they'd mind pushing off a solo Spidey flick til 2019 if they knew they had him back. They can sprinkle him into Avengers movies and such. Drop him into the street level marvel shows, who knows.
The question is this, should the deal actually get done: What does this mean for Black Panther? Apparently T'Challa plays the part he plays in Civil War because Marvel couldn't use Spidey. So what if they get Spidey back? How does that fuck with plans for the Black Panther character at that point?
Why? Those other sites are just going to link back to Latino-Review anyway.
Yeah, not buying it....
Besides, where would Marvel have time to fit three Spiderman movies? Even if there was a cameo in Civil War, Spidey woudln't show up again until 2019.
2018. They'd have enough time to rewrite Avengers 3 Part 1 to include him. Though I can't imagine it's not gonna cause some problems.
No chance for Civil War, though.
block tower
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very good points. i think people keep forgetting Sony needs to SPEND money to make money and a film franchise like Spider-Man should've been making Sony more than it has. if this report is true, then it'd reinforce the idea that Sony higher ups aren't pleased with the film studio's ability to get a worthwhile return on the property. it'd do Sony more good to sell the franchise while the superhero genre is at an all time rather than loosing more money trying to build up a franchise in an ever crowded genre of films. if Sony could do a shared deal or an outright sale of Spider-Man, i think it'd give them enough money to refocus their efforts with othet films in other genres. "with great power comes great responsibility " and Sony is somehow managing to fuck up Spider-Man so badly that its barely giving them enough money to be worthwhile. meanwhile Marvel is printing cash with a Guardians of the Galaxy, a superhero film that had no prior pop culture reference to guarantee success, yet Marvel got it to work.
simply put, Sony is too incompetent to handle such a big franchise and theyll continue to struggle with making financially successful films.
You also have to take into account the theaters cut and the marketing budget.
Gambit 1138
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Are you guys not excited about the prospects of Carnage and Teen Aunt May spin off films?
Bobby Roberts
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Often.
They fuck up quite a bit, too.
But considering their entire M.O. is to try and end-run the pr departments of most major studios, they're not gonna have the best of batting averages overall. Sometimes they publish bunk. Sometimes they fuck up an honest report. Sometimes they report on something and then shit changes at the studio in the meantime. Sometimes they get it dead-fucking-on.
It's a rumor site. They at least do their own legwork as opposed to most other rumor sites that people pay attention to on GAF, such as comicbookmovie or superherohype. They're just linkfarms, essentially - and half the time they can't even be bothered to vet or do the bare minimum to even consider what it is they're sharing.
Imperial Bishop
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I want to believe.
Gambit 1138
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The Civil War film is now to far into the pipeline to be altered too radically. They are sticking with the Black Panther version now. At best they might be able to add a very small subplot for Spider Man if they work out a deal with Sony in the next few months.
It's not so much "they" as it is Avi Arad, who will remain the forever obstacle to any Marvel/Spider-Man crossover.
thehypocrite
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Lol. Bullshit rumor that marvel fanboys are going to eat up.
Carnage? How's 1996 over there?
bengraven
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Avi isn't the issue in the Spider-man thing - that was Sony:
http://screenrant.com/marvel-captain-america-3-civil-war-spider-man-crossover/
Sony Pictures is one of the few things that actually makes money, so it would be incredible stupid to spin that off right now.
Not even close. They don't get every dollar the movie makes. The movie theater takes about half over the course of it's run, then you have marketing. That's normally about as big as the movie budget was. Then once you go overseas, they get even less of that money. So after $700 million box office, I'm going to say they got about $90 million, if they were lucky.
superdeluxe
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Which continues to make less than previous movies. The property is dying in their hands
ReplacementPelican
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Yeah, not buying it....
Besides, where would Marvel have time to fit three Spiderman movies? Even if there was a cameo in Civil War, Spidey woudln't show up again until 2019.
Weren't they going to be competing against Sony's films? Just whack them in the roster. Marvel would hardly lose money.
Gambit 1138
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I can't wait for the revised Civil War where T'Challa is about to make his grand entrance into the MCU....everyone is at the edge of their seats....a body guard opens a door for a foreign dignitary from Wakanda to greet Captain America and then just as the door swings open...a reporter (played by Tobey Maguire) blocks the view of the person coming out of the car and asks Captain America if he can get his picture for the school paper!
Crowd goes wild.
Alternatively just make Civil War Spider-Man V B.Panther:
Crowd goes wild.
Alternatively just make Civil War Spider-Man V B.Panther:
thehypocrite
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Why doesn't Marvel just buys Spiderman?
ReplacementPelican
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Between this and having a Crash avatar you're a horrible person.
Disney will just buy Sony.
Imperial Bishop
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Next, we need to get that godawful FF reboot canned so we can get Doom and Galactus in Infinity War.
Discotheque
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throw in JJJ too. it would be too much for me to handle.
Gambit 1138
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yes, and Arad is the reason for that. Spider-Man is his baby, he's the one who has said that if a crossover were to happen, Spidey would have to be the star, he would need creative control, etc. He's the same guy who's behind every bad decision made with this franchise since Spider-Man 3.
Marvel pretty much made it clear they hate it as much as we do.
block tower
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no dunst tho, shes wrekt at this point.
Gambit 1138
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Imperial Bishop
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Disney's got money. They can probably hire some "hackers" to delay production long enough for the rights to revert back to Marvel.
>.>
hodayathink
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Avi is at Sony, he's supposed to be the one running the Spider-Man franchise.
Except Sony not seeing any of this merchandising money.
That's over 1.2 billion bucks that's lining Disney's pockets, not Sony.
A the money for X-Men merchandise is in on one's pocket.
Discotheque
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this place would probably eat up an aaron sorkin-penned movie about marvel losing their shit to other studios.
Avi Arad:"If you were the owners of Spiderman then you would have made Spiderman"
Avi Arad:"If you were the owners of Spiderman then you would have made Spiderman"
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
But they make so much money. Kind of doubt they give a shit
Yeah, not buying it....
Besides, where would Marvel have time to fit three Spiderman movies? Even if there was a cameo in Civil War, Spidey woudln't show up again until 2019.
Marvel could always shove Spidey into one of these films. It can help give Black Panther or Doctor Strange some more mainstream appeal.
I think the Highlander franchise still holds it, since literally each sequel likes to pretend the previous film didn't exist and even retcons the ending of the first film.
Jorok Goldblade
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If I'm understanding the deal right, it would give Marvel creative control. Sony would still have distribution, and thus make money off box office and DVD/Blu-Ray sales. The incentive to take this deal would be to make money off of Marvel's near-guaranteed success, rather than continuing to damage the brand for little to know gains.
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