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I hope they don't pit giant spirit Korra against Kuvira's mech. Please don't. :(

So next week is the final episode of the Avatar universe?
 
Haha, I loled at the episode.

I liked it, most of it. The giant Mecha we all knew was coming, so whatevs.

The only thing I didn't like was that whole Baatar Jr. interrogation scene... I mean, I was with Baatar the whole time. "Really? this is the best you got?"

I guess Baatar Jr. just loves Kuvira SO MUCH that he can't stand to be without her, so "Kuvira, call it off." Just like the rest of the season and Kuvira's characters, we have to take the writers at their word, because we didn't get to see much. Zaheer and P'li's romance was more believable. Their immediate reactions upon reuniting was a full blown make out session, and P'li stood by Zaheer to the very end. Baatar Jr.'s love for Kuvira was never given that level of depth, not enough for Korra's threat to actually resonate much with me, at least.

Kuvira made the right decision. Eff Baatar. Jr. She's already built a giant mecha with a evil beam, who the hell cares about her fiancé.

And it bothers me that no one is actually calling out Kuvira and Baatar Jr.'s logic on invading the United Republic.

But, oh well.

EDIT: That mecha suit won't last long. It will probably be brought down by the hummingbird mecha's that survived the blast, and then The Last Stand will be Korra vs Kuvira full on. I also don't think we'll see giant Kaiju Korra once again.
 
I was never one to worry about this show going out too weak. I always liked the season, and even though it's weaker than season 3, I never really thought it was that weak. Kinda weak, but not too weak.

If season 4 ends with Giant Korra then I will be greatly disappointed.
 
70 years before LOK. At least the concept was there.
Remember the Earth trucks during TDOBS? Jet skis, zeppelins, etc etc. It isn't that far fetched.

Yeah, and those were tanks though. And even still they felt massively out of place when I watched that initially.

LoK has a steampunky vibe. So did ATLA. Things like blimps and drills were okay. Satomobiles were fine and they didnt even show up until shortly before Korra. I mean, Yakone used a carriage and Horse Chicken in that one flashback. The original mecha tanks from season 1 were fine too because they ran on tracks like tanks. This seasons full mech suits with 2 legs were a bit of a stretch. Now a 24 story version? A robot like that feels out of place. It's not steam punk. That's something that might be okay in a series that took place 100 years after Korra perhaps.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?! MY WORLD IS FALLING APART

It'll be over in a week my friend.
 
I just saw the episode. Man, I am never around for when the first impressions happen.

How are people receiving the mech? I'm fine with it, since it was pretty foreshadowed and everything. The bigger issue is that it looks stupid, and it's got a single attack apparently that is shockingly nimble, given it's weight.

I think we've lost the sliver of hope we had for Kuvira getting some depth. She flat out did not give a fuck about Bataar Jr, which comes across as pointless just to make her seem like more the bad guy. Like, what is actually gained here? She could have gotten back Bataar and just been like "hey, changed my mind, turns out I want Rep City after all." It's treasonous, but not anymore than flat out murdering your fiance and most loyal soldier as the control panel people watch, so she already dropped any pretenses of honor or morality. She really is just a generic bad guy now, but atleast she is finally established as a more credible threat than just an above average earth bender. And that sucks.

Kaiju Korra is coming back. Toa must be squeeing in his pants now.

That mech really looks unthreatening though. Like goddamn.
 
Not in a world with mecha tanks, mecha suits, and hummingbirds.

Honestly, the jump to mecha tanks is where everyone should be getting annoyed.
They annoyed me too. But I can accept something of this size, but this giant mecha is incredible impractical given that it's purpose is to mobilize the giant canon. There are tons of useless steelparts that has to be moved and are only there to make it look humanoid. The size makes it also more difficult to maintain and a bigger target for all kinds of attacks. A tank, or even a three legged walker with the canon on top would've be more practical.

The ability to moves rocks, communicate with spirits, and giant lion-turtles giving super powers to humans are just as arbitrary. They have the tech shown already with the mech suits. They just needed to make it big and apply the power of a master metal bender to aid it. i don't really see how this is crazy when everything else is just as crazy in the series and they've at least set some groundwork for it.

And as SG-17 points out. Mecha tanks is where you should be annoyed but even then, considering the tech of TLA to Avatar, it's not that crazy of a leap.
Being in a fantasy world gives not a free-pass for everything. A Song of Ice and Fire has dragons and magic and yet you can't just have Little Finger suddenly riding a tank into battle. The dragon turtles have nothing to do with the mecha, spirit communication is certainly not Kuviras thing and well, moving rocks/metal comes in handy, yes. However, why build such a giant thing that needs certainly a lot of power (look at what benders usually bend and look at the size and possible weight of that mecha, the tank canon was big already enough). I doubt that this is the practical design an engineer would've pushed. It's super impractical and a maintenance horror.

That is my general problem with Korra. This show just does what it's wants and shrugs it off with "it's fantasy for kids and children are dumb enough to eat it, don't be like that.". There is no reason to dumb down anything for kids, american's certainly give their kids not enough credit if that is a main defense that comes up in such discussions.
 
So, maybe this is a stupid question, but is there any reason in particular why Korra didn't enter the avatar state and try to disable or wreck the mega mecha?

No, but given the size of it, it's questionable whether she could even take it down.

I want to know what's happening with the Dark Avatar spirit that's been haunting her. I really hope that will get a proper resolution, and hasn't just been hurriedly solved by Zaheer showing her the way into the spirit realm.
 
Personally, I think the most absurd thing about it is the notion that Bataar Jr. just came up with this overnight before they marched out. "Oh yeah, let me just get a few dozen thousant tons of steel, mentally and mechanically engineer a walking humanoid robot, test it all out, train you in it's usage, mount the 50 ton fuck cannon and we can ride it over to Rep City. Should be done by tomorrow morning if I pull an all nighter on it, hunny,"

I'll be the first to admit that even TLA had some unbelievably fast accomplishments happen, but HOLY SHIT.
 
I just saw the episode. Man, I am never around for when the first impressions happen.

How are people receiving the mech? I'm fine with it, since it was pretty foreshadowed and everything. The bigger issue is that it looks stupid, and it's got a single attack apparently that is shockingly nimble, given it's weight.

Kaiju Korra is coming back. Toa must be squeeing in his pants now.

That mech really looks unthreatening though. Like goddamn.

It has a horrible design and I almost laughed out loud because how much of a shark jump it's first scene was to me. I also don't buy that it can't be toppled with a simple earthquake no matter what people say.

Also what happened to the Fire Nation's air forces? Did they just all die overnight? Do biplanes no longer exist?
 
Personally, I think the most absurd thing about it is the notion that Bataar Jr. just came up with this overnight before they marched out. "Oh yeah, let me just get a few dozen thousant tons of steel, mentally and mechanically engineer a walking humanoid robot, test it all out, train you in it's usage, mount the 50 ton fuck cannon and we can ride it over to Rep City. Should be done by tomorrow morning if I pull an all nighter on it, hunny,"

I'll be the first to admit that even TLA had some unbelievably fast accomplishments happen, but HOLY SHIT.

They were planning to move it out in two weeks. They did it in one.

Those Earth Empire engineers better get a hefty overtime pay!
 
It has a horrible design and I almost laughed out loud because how much of a shark jump it's first scene was to me. I also don't buy that it can't be toppled with a simple earthquake no matter what people say.

Also what happened to the Fire Nation's air forces? Did they just all die overnight? Do biplanes no longer exist?

They'd get shot down with it's impossibly nimble arm canon. You saw how a fucking air bison was apparently helpless in dodging that thing.

They were planning to move it out in two weeks. They did it in one.

Those Earth Empire engineers better get a hefty overtime pay!

A week is as equally impossible as a day. I don't care how many people you got working on that, you are not just making a fucking Jaeger in a week from scratch.
 
Personally, I think the most absurd thing about it is the notion that Bataar Jr. just came up with this overnight before they marched out. "Oh yeah, let me just get a few dozen thousant tons of steel, mentally and mechanically engineer a walking humanoid robot, test it all out, train you in it's usage, mount the 50 ton fuck cannon and we can ride it over to Rep City. Should be done by tomorrow morning if I pull an all nighter on it, hunny,"

I'll be the first to admit that even TLA had some unbelievably fast accomplishments happen, but HOLY SHIT.

Is that what actually happened? He came up with it overnight? I hope it is, because that's the only reason how Verrick could have not known about this.

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They'd get shot down with it's impossibly nimble arm canon. You saw how a fucking air bison was apparently helpless in dodging that thing.
I'm not asking them to destroy the mech. I'm questioning why they wouldn't be sent there to begin with.

They'd still be effective on the ground troops and it take very little coordination to hit the mech in-between shots
 
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Is that what actually happened? He came up with it overnight? I hope it is, because that's the only reason how Verrick could have not known about this.

Well, Bataar didn't necessarily have to tell Verrick anything. We know production started in a week. But no, it's still impossible. You don't just theoretically design something like that and have it work on the first go. There would be SO many test models. Not to mention the sheer fuckton of supplies needed just as sheer building material. In addition to the extra supplies needed to help build it. And Kuvira would have to be trained in how to make it work.

Maybe if they said Bataar had been working on this since he left Zaofu. But otherwise, no. Just no.

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I'm not asking them to destroy the mech. I'm questioning why they wouldn't be sent there to begin with.

They'd still be effective on the ground troops and it take very little coordination to hit the mech in-between shots

That wasn't a defense. That mech is impossibly effective at combat given how lumberous and slow it should be, how difficult to aim when it has to hold it's arm straight out like that, how it seems to have no other offensive capabilities EXCEPT that one huge fuck you arm cannon. The reason why those strategies aren't tried is that they wouldn't work, even if by all logic they should. Honestly, just 2 biplanes would be sufficient. Approach at different angles. Kuvira could only shoot down one before they got too close to allow to be shot. After that, infiltration or messing it up from the outside where it can't get you or whatever.

I know they got fucked over with the budget, but man does this thing look like piss.
 
A week is as equally impossible as a day. I don't care how many people you got working on that, you are not just making a fucking Jaeger in a week from scratch.

It is. I'm a bit slack-jaw amazed that they actually chose a Super Robot -route as the climactic battle of the season. Wow.

Tank? Sure. Railtank? They had that, it's fine. Super-friggin'-robot out of the writer's bum? Get out of town. It would be fine if they had alluded to that, like people talking about the Empire pouring massive amounts of metals and manpower into making a "secret project" or something, but nope.
 
Couldn't Korra have just done an Avatar state powered-up version of the shockwave thingy she did against Tarrlok in Book 1? Even if the robot was too heavy to lift like that, it would easily deal with the rest of the ground forces. And since the weapon is attached to the right arm, there is clearly a blind spot in its firing range around the left shoulder blade, and even more if we are assuming normal human movement with the mech. Since the weapon has a fairly long charging time, if you overwhelm it with attacks from multiple sides you could easily deal with it. The back of the knees makes sense for a logical weakpoint, and you only really need to take out one of them. What ever happened to the biplanes? A bunch of those should easily deal with the mech,
 
I'm disappointed with Kuvira's reaction. I expected something like "She'll never keep us apart. I'll chase her to the ends of the earth" not "If I can't have you and the city, I'll take the city".

Giant mech made me laugh but I'm okay with it. Too bad the Avatar universe is likely done once Korra ends, I think a mature sequel on Adult Swim could be excellent.
 
I thought the foreshadowing of the mech was when Kuvira dismantled the Zaofu domes (for the amount of metal required).

Which means the construction could have been going on since then or shortly before, and the idea could have been even farther back (since the idea is just "a giant version of something we already have").
 
Except I don't need vision correction. I wasn't being sarcastic, this is solely* because I look really damn good in glasses.

*mostly
Uh huh.
I'm disappointed with Kuvira's reaction. I expected something like "She'll never keep us apart. I'll chase her to the ends of the earth" not "If I can't have you and the city, I'll take the city".

Giant mech made me laugh but I'm okay with it. Too bad the Avatar universe is likely done once Korra ends, I think a mature sequel on Adult Swim could be excellent.
Nah, she doesn't need a man as weak as Bataar (Junior).
 
I thought the foreshadowing of the mech was when Kuvira dismantled the Zaofu domes (for the amount of metal required).

Which means the construction could have been going on since then or shortly before, and the idea could have been even farther back (since the idea is just "a giant version of something we already have").

It does seem like it. It's still a huge longshot by any standard to expect "Robot taller than most mountains" as being the thing they were making from it. I thought they took the domes to decrease the chance of Zaofu rebelling, and to build the railtank track to Republic City.
 
Oh, speaking of reactions.

Korra comes back and tensely but otherwise calmly states that there is a hundred foot giant robot coming to blast this city off the face of the earth.

Their reaction to this news is also tense, but otherwise calm and orderly. Like, no. You just got told a giant fucking robot is coming to wreck your shit. This is the appropriate reaction to have.

For those unfortunate enough to have never read Sandman, this isn't missing any speech bubbles. This is the character trying to reply, and failing because he can't think of anything to say to what he has just been told.

That is the only plausible reaction to have.

On another note, while I understand that Kuvira is supposed to be a serious character, she really should have laughed her ass off at the President's impotent threat. "Bitch, I am literally standing in front of you in a giant fucking robot. Are you SURE you do not want to rephrase what you just said to me, ant?"
 
ending hopes:

at the very end, amongst the wreckage of the mech, k and k have their showdown

kuvira is on the ropes, but uses taunting over something (death of someone earlier in the finale?) to get korra to go super saiyan, then she's all CHECKMATE DA and pulls out the same detonator varric made and nukes them both

everyone is all somber and celebrates korra the last avatar

flash forward to several years later, the ba sing se throne room, the mature, kind and handsome king wu is busy being a wise and just ruler, when someone bursts into the room with important news, and a child comes out and bends both earth and fire

avatar theme song plays triumphantly, roll credits
 
So I heard a staples ad saying they had all your shipping needs and got mad at the manager when I went there after he told me they did not have any Korrasami in stock
 
Personally, I think the most absurd thing about it is the notion that Bataar Jr. just came up with this overnight before they marched out. "Oh yeah, let me just get a few dozen thousant tons of steel, mentally and mechanically engineer a walking humanoid robot, test it all out, train you in it's usage, mount the 50 ton fuck cannon and we can ride it over to Rep City. Should be done by tomorrow morning if I pull an all nighter on it, hunny,"

I'll be the first to admit that even TLA had some unbelievably fast accomplishments happen, but HOLY SHIT.

Well he is Su's son and you said the same thing about her lol
 
I think I ended up enjoying this episode just to see where the directors actually take this show now.

I gave up hope that this show could fulfil any of its potential a few episodes ago.

Also Kuvira must have broken Zaheer out of prison and decided to got the full anarchy route since that's what she seems to be doing now >.>
 
Well he is Su's son and you said the same thing about her lol

She had atleast a lifetime to accomplish everything. With Bataar, this is literally overnight.

Toph has a foot radar that spans the entire continent, Suyin makes Leonardo Da Vinci look like a chump, and Bataar Jr. just shrank Tony Stark's penis to microsize.

What next, Opal awakens to find out she is actually omnipotent and rewrites all of reality?
 
]Well, Bataar didn't necessarily have to tell Verrick anything. [/B]We know production started in a week. But no, it's still impossible. You don't just theoretically design something like that and have it work on the first go. There would be SO many test models. Not to mention the sheer fuckton of supplies needed just as sheer building material. In addition to the extra supplies needed to help build it. And Kuvira would have to be trained in how to make it work.

Maybe if they said Bataar had been working on this since he left Zaofu. But otherwise, no. Just no.

My problem aside from the impossible production of it is that I didn't believe that they would hide the plans for this from what was then their top engineer. But I just realized they came up with the idea for the mech after he left, which is just stupid considering how long it would take at that point
 

Spirit Korra will use chest beam kamehameha against Mecha-Kuvira spirit blast. The blasts will collide and they will need to see who is stronger to prevail.


Korra will be all "I NEED TO TAP INTO MY SPIRIT AND MY FRIENDS AND GOOD"

Kuvira is just gonna be "I NEED MORE POWER FEED ME MORE VINES I DONT CARE IF THE MECH IS FALLING APART IT WILL HOLD"
 
I gave up hope at Kuvira actually getting any depth a long time ago, so I actually didn't mind see her just try to kill every and anything in her way.

At this rate I'm expecting her to go batshit crazy during her fight with Korra like Azula or something. And then when she's beat, she'll try to set off some nuke that she had Bataar Jr. make off screen at some unknown time (which he made without a question of course because "I luv u!") and perform a suicide strike on the whole city. After kissing Mako for some random ass fanservice, Korra will take the bomb outside the city and "sacrifice" herself....only for it to be revealed at the very end that she inexplicably survived and is chilling at the swamp with Toph for the rest of her life.

Whatever.
 
Spirit Korra will use chest beam kamehameha against Mecha-Kuvira spirit blast. The blasts will collide and they will need to see who is stronger to prevail.


Korra will be all "I NEED TO TAP INTO MY SPIRIT AND MY FRIENDS AND GOOD"

Kuvira is just gonna be "I NEED MORE POWER FEED ME MORE VINES I DONT CARE IF THE MECH IS FALLING APART IT WILL HOLD"
And it will be fucking EPIC.
is now literally:
Oh come on now, peeps.

She's like, the Good Hitler.
 
Book 3>Book 1>Book 4 >Book 2

Overall, despite its flaws, I loved the trip. I dont care how it ends.

And Korra will forever be a part of my Avatar marathons...
 
What does the Good Hitler even mean?
Oh you know. Someone who is courageous, strong, intelligent, who cares for her people (but only people like her), and willing to do whatever it takes to do what's right and establish order in a chaotic world. Everything Kuvira does, she does it for the greater good. Sacrifices, like her fiancé and Eskimo Jesus, are a harsh and consuming cost she's going to have to live with. But she carries the world, and the future of the world, on her shoulders, and her shoulders alone.

;_;7
 
Oh you know. Someone who is courageous, string, intelligent, who cares for her people (but only people like her), and willing to do whatever it takes to do what's right and establish order in a chaotic world. Everything Kuvira does, she does it for the greater good. Sacrifices, like her fiancé and Eskimo Jesus, are a harsh and consuming cost she's going to have to live with. But she carries the world, and the future of the world, on her shoulders, and her shoulders alone.

;_;7

I'm sometimes concerned for you.
 
Book 3>Book 1>Book 4 >Book 2

Overall, despite its flaws, I loved the trip. I dont care how it ends.

And Korra will forever be a part of my Avatar marathons...

I can't disagree with anything here.
If anything, I'd have Book 4 and book 1 a draw.
 
I'm thoroughly enjoying the giant robot, I don't think you can go any bigger than that for a series finale, and I don't think it's something the avatar state can bring down alone. I'm excited to see how they try and take it down. This way, we get a team takedown on the robot and then hopefully a one V one to really settle things.

At first I laughed off the Earth Empire building that thing in such a small amount of time given that real life humanity never could, but then I remembered metal benders haha. I thought there were going to be hundreds of metal benders working the movement from the inside, but did I see Kuvira lift the arm by her bending alone? Or did she move a lever?

Really want to see someone hit it with lighting.
 
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