Lord Thrappleper The 49th
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I have a theory about how Kuvira will be beaten in the finale... maybe Boomarang will come back...?
Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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I didn't forget anything. The Runaway was sufficient to me. Toph had no real history with Zuko.
Admiral Woofington
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The driller in ATLA would be just as "dumb" and "unrealistic" going by the critics of Gundam Kuvira. The robot is coherent with the scientific progresses shown in Korra since day one.
People just want yet another reason to hate the superior show.
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AtLA
Warships, tanks, zeppelins, and then a driller which simply another tool of trade that wasn't far off from the vehicles they had so far. The driller even used real life ideas such as water/mud to help alleviate the pressure on the drill. The invention of the zeppelin was the biggest technological advancement of the whole show.
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Lighting system, concrete, proper 20's or so 'modern' infrastructure, early ford-like vehicles, the start of cinema in silent form, then we have robot suits and a giant mecha which are WAY beyond the scope of mechanical engineers today so why would a society that hasn't advanced from very early stages of technology be able to do this? We just had planes and now robots shooting lasers? Where are our giant robots now?
Your definition of coherent needs some backing up because I am not seeing it.
A little thing that annoyed me is that it was clear Toph had feelings for Sokka in Book 2 and Book 3 but yet it was never resolved.
The writers have never handled romance well. It's one of the weaker aspects of A:TLA and TLOK for me.
I think the giant robot wouldn't be so bad if we hadn't just seen a much more down-to-earth implementation of the superweapon one episode ago.
We went from a WW2-esque gun on wheels to a giant robot with an arm cannon in the space of one episode.
Season 2 of TLA feels a lot more well-built than Season 3. Season 3 has more daring episodes (Like The Beach), but it also has a lot more blunders.
We went from a WW2-esque gun on wheels to a giant robot with an arm cannon in the space of one episode.
I would have taken an actual Toph-centric episode over Sokka's Master (Which I feel is a completely unnecessary episode for Sokka) or The Painted Lady.
Season 2 of TLA feels a lot more well-built than Season 3. Season 3 has more daring episodes (Like The Beach), but it also has a lot more blunders.
Agreed. Mai and Zuko's romance was also not very well-written.
I was fine with it. Of course I would prefer Kai was cut: we still get some new airbender training synergy, and have enough time left over to get a dedicated red lotus episode. But he exists, so eh.
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SilentMatthew
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So... are Mike & Bryan confirmed as the George Lucas of western cartoons or what?
Admiral Woofington
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only if they make the finale poetry. It rhymes.
I would accuse John Kricfalusi long before either of them, especially since Season 3 of Korra was really good.
WrenchNinja
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1. Earth
2. Fire
3. Water
4. Change
5. Balance
6. Air
7. Spirits
2. Fire
3. Water
4. Change
5. Balance
6. Air
7. Spirits
Admiral Woofington
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that doesn't excuse it from jumping through technology like that. Sci-fi and fantasy isn't excused from certain issues because it isn't reality. Same reason people complain in sci-fi about somebody being able to immediately communicate with aliens, or breathing in space, etc...
Hmm, can't say I'd change your ordering much. Though I feel some of the seasons are of equal quality, so...
ATLA S2
ATLA S3 = Korra S3
Korra S4 = ATLA S1
Korra S1
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Korra S2
love it!!!
This series is a textbook case of being great at world building but mostly terrible at character building (Thank god for based Bolin/Varrick). A story can favor one over the other, but it requires balance (heh) to create something that works. Unfortunately the approach that the writers want to take is for us to focus on the characters in this plot-driven scenario, specifically our heroine, but since the cast is so haphazardly build, the viewer doesn't care.
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She had a crush that eventually went away.
Not everything needs to be an epic drama :/
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Xpike
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She sees Sokka has a girlfriend, and moves on from her crush. If it was Korra, we would've gotten an episode dedicated to the love triangle.
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Xpike
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We needed an Amon in the writing staff, I can't believe we know the fates of everyone in Team Avatar except Sokka and Suki
m_shortpants
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Aang - crappy dad
Katara - old lady who can't heal people and let her husband treat her kids differently
Toph - shitty mother
Sokka - unknown
Zuko is really the only good one as far as we know. Seems to have raised a good daughter/grandson.
Where did I say I wanted an epic drama?
Toph's feelings were pretty much used as a throwaway joke and there wasn't a point in the end. That's my problem with it.
I watched ATLA for the first time right after Book 1 of Korra finished airing, so I went straight into that afterwards. I remember thinking at the time that Book 1 of Korra was a big step down from Book 3 of ATLA, but I thought it was about on par with Book 1 of ATLA. They both had some dud episodes. They both spent a lot of time not really advancing what seemed like the main story. Korra's conflict had a much stronger concept from the very beginning, but Amon kind of fell apart, whereas Zhao performed as advertised and Zuko became much more interesting over the course of the season. Both kind of ended in pretty weird ways that didn't feel a whole lot like accomplishments for the main characters.
But in retrospect Book 1 of ATLA sets up the later seasons in ways that Book 1 of Korra didn't. A lot of ATLA's Book 1 village-of-the-week episodes turned out to be relevant later in many different ways. The Warriors of Kyoshi seems a lot like an episode where Sokka learns a very important lesson about sexism, but Kyoshi and the island come up again and Suki ends up being a pretty important character in later seasons. Bumi and Jet are significant later. An episode like Bato of the Water Tribe ends up being important for providing context for when Sokka and Katara's dad shows up. The blimp in The Northern Air Temple comes back in a big way.
Book 1 also develops the main characters. Katara becomes a competent waterbender. Sokka grows from a buffoon to the closest thing the group has to a leader or at least thinker. Aang starts to grasp the significance of his mission.
Meanwhile Korra doesn't really introduce a lot of different ideas in Book 1 that it can build on later. It's got a few big subplots, but mostly those don't go anywhere. Pro-bending disappears. The Korra/Mako romance is really annoying in Book 2 and pretty much disappears by Book 3. Asami and her engineering and her company come up in Book 2, some, although Varrick could probably carry a lot of that himself, and Asami is mostly just tagging along with the gang in Books 3 and 4. The bender/non-bender conflict completely vanishes.
Likewise the reset button gets hit on Korra's character at the start of Book 2, where she goes totally off the rails. Bolin contracts a debilitating illness that has him slowly regressing to a childlike state. Mako mostly doesn't get worse, at least.
But in retrospect Book 1 of ATLA sets up the later seasons in ways that Book 1 of Korra didn't. A lot of ATLA's Book 1 village-of-the-week episodes turned out to be relevant later in many different ways. The Warriors of Kyoshi seems a lot like an episode where Sokka learns a very important lesson about sexism, but Kyoshi and the island come up again and Suki ends up being a pretty important character in later seasons. Bumi and Jet are significant later. An episode like Bato of the Water Tribe ends up being important for providing context for when Sokka and Katara's dad shows up. The blimp in The Northern Air Temple comes back in a big way.
Book 1 also develops the main characters. Katara becomes a competent waterbender. Sokka grows from a buffoon to the closest thing the group has to a leader or at least thinker. Aang starts to grasp the significance of his mission.
Meanwhile Korra doesn't really introduce a lot of different ideas in Book 1 that it can build on later. It's got a few big subplots, but mostly those don't go anywhere. Pro-bending disappears. The Korra/Mako romance is really annoying in Book 2 and pretty much disappears by Book 3. Asami and her engineering and her company come up in Book 2, some, although Varrick could probably carry a lot of that himself, and Asami is mostly just tagging along with the gang in Books 3 and 4. The bender/non-bender conflict completely vanishes.
Likewise the reset button gets hit on Korra's character at the start of Book 2, where she goes totally off the rails. Bolin contracts a debilitating illness that has him slowly regressing to a childlike state. Mako mostly doesn't get worse, at least.
Then he sets his own ship on fire. Whoops.
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Xpike
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Kuvira would've died if not for Shadow Korra. Whoops
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Xpike
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Book 1 of ATLA is a proper Act 1 to any story: it introduces all the elements we'll need later, but is still interesting in its own right.
Book 1 of Korra forgot it needed to have all 3 Acts, so we only get 2 and a half and then it rushes desperately to finish the show, because for some reason we needed to dedicate 20 minutes to a love triangle.
To be fair, LoK isn't about Team Avatar. But it is funny that non-benders of the "core team" seem to get the short end of the stick. First Sokka, now Asami.
Atraveller
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Or the writers could keep those rare bending powers...rare, instead of turning Krew into the Mary Sue of bending, and destroys the feeling of epicness those special powers bring in the process. Zuko went through long training to learn how to use the super deadly lightning bending which could take out the avatar in one shot, but now tons of blue collar workers can do it too? What?
Aye.
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Xpike
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also the warships and drills and stuff are all things that are proven to be viable in a real life scenario, a giant ass robot is not and that kinda takes me out of it
Did you just describe meta--
lets fucking do this. Kuvira can still be redeemed.
Yes she can.
Icyflamez96
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lol
She got a giant robot I'm not ruling anything out at this point.
Atraveller
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Nah, I just like to poke fun.
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Xpike
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what if the giant robot gets a giant surfing board and jumps a giant robotic shark piloted by the spirit of Avatar Kuruk
Kuvira is beyond repair at this point. She's pretty much a mediocre villain to a mediocre final season. There is nothing that can be done to change that at this point.
Best they can do, is go all the way out and make her batshit insane. Might as well go out with a big spectacle. I just hope it's not clunky/silly like the Kaiju fight.
Best they can do, is go all the way out and make her batshit insane. Might as well go out with a big spectacle. I just hope it's not clunky/silly like the Kaiju fight.
What if Kuvira is the reincarnated god and Korra needs to punch her into the sun?
Just let fucking platinum handle the finale.
But yeah Kuvira would be better as a book 2 villain or something.
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Xpike
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Kuvira really can't get any worse.
Maybe it's revealed she's actually an alien sent to infiltrate Earth.
Icyflamez96
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don't compare amon to noatak, toatak.
Honestly, one can never complain about technology in anime, comics and cartoons. It will never makes sense.
In fact, the Avatar Universe's technological advancements make some sense because of how bending both limits it but enables it to surpass our real world.
In the Marvel universe, it makes no sense for regular cars to still be around when you have flying helicarriers and Iron Man.
In fact, the Avatar Universe's technological advancements make some sense because of how bending both limits it but enables it to surpass our real world.
In the Marvel universe, it makes no sense for regular cars to still be around when you have flying helicarriers and Iron Man.
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