A. might not be out of the question, B. is war crime levels of bad.
Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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A. might not be out of the question, B. is war crime levels of bad.
Icyflamez96
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lol
Who else do we blame?
Icyflamez96
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I just blame Nick for making it impossible for them to have had all of these characters and themes in LoK fleshed out like they were in ATLA. The fault goes to the writers for making the scale of the story much larger than what could fit nicely into such a limited episode format though.
SilentMatthew
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Eh, LOK is an enjoyable show if you don't think about it too much. Season 3 being the exception for that rule, mostly. It is unfortunate that LOK is squandered potential. ATLA was all about returning the status quo of the world through relatively physical means from a passive protagonist.
Whereas LOK seemed to be shaping up to be rocking the boat with the 20's aesthetic in Season 1 setting the mood. So far, there's very little tackling of the presented issues by the protagonist. The non-bender thing was sweep under the rug and it seems that there's still going to be a monarchy in the central continent. For as... whatever Season 2 was, Korra at least directly interacted with the problem of spirituality. Although that too was partially glossed over. So just like the ending message of that clip show episode , don't think about it too much because sure as hell the writers aren't.
Whereas LOK seemed to be shaping up to be rocking the boat with the 20's aesthetic in Season 1 setting the mood. So far, there's very little tackling of the presented issues by the protagonist. The non-bender thing was sweep under the rug and it seems that there's still going to be a monarchy in the central continent. For as... whatever Season 2 was, Korra at least directly interacted with the problem of spirituality. Although that too was partially glossed over. So just like the ending message of that clip show episode , don't think about it too much because sure as hell the writers aren't.
I wouldn't say it's even that. If it were a standalone, without TLA's continuity, I probably wouldn't have bothered watching (well, that's a lie. I seem to watch everything to completion, no matter how bad. But I would have wanted to quit is what I mean).
Really, we constantly bitch about the shows failings, so maybe to some extent we've dug trenches of negativity surrounding this show, but stepping back, what good can we say about this?
Some good production values, I suppose. The show can look great and the music always delivers. Voice acting is good and all. More often than not, it's working with good idea's, but that's not unique or special since they don't deliver. In terms of characters, they have a few really likable ones like Asami that barely ever get used to their fullest potential.
Trying to describe LoK positively is an exercise of damning it with faint praise. The show isn't the worst thing I've ever seen, no, but I really doubt we would all be here if this was Legend of Completely Seperate Person From Avatar. It's not great, it's not good, it's.....it's a show that tries it's best, but fails in nearly every way. We can admire it for it's production, we can admire it for trying, but we can't admire it for itself.
Admiral Woofington
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Not every site has as many cynical people together as NeoGAF. It has the downside that the more happy go lucky people that tend to belong in other sites come here and are just shocked by negativity, but dig deep down and you'll see that among that supposed hate lies the broken hearts of fans, lying deep below the sea of tears. We welcome discussion and are still enjoying the show, but are more prone to dissect its issues than just post 3 word "good episode XD" reviews.
The upside of the site being so cynical is that it'll be much easier to distinguish the good/amazing shows from the crap. For example there isn't much hate for NBC's Hannibal here.
Lots of good female characters. Lin Beifong. Dealt with PTSD. Bolin stepping it up at the end of season 2 and 3 (the latter which was briefly incredibly dark). The subject material has real world parallels that provoke discussion.
Everything has real world parallels that can provoke discussion. It's just the act of connecting one idea to another. It's not something unique or difficult.
I like that the show has a lot more female characters in commanding roles than most other shows, but due to the nature of their characters, I don't know if that necessarily makes them inspiring, and I asked that to the board specifically at one point, which a few people answered disagreeing with that due to characters not being well developed enough.
Infinite Justice
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While i think Korra is an disappointing followup to ATLA i think labeling it as fanfiction is going a bit too far tbh.
And whats funny that they had some very interesting themes that could have easily been at even level or surpass ATLA but they fucking bungled it every almost every turn.
It stings even further since those themes actually belonged in a "sequel" due to the time frame that was established.
And whats funny that they had some very interesting themes that could have easily been at even level or surpass ATLA but they fucking bungled it every almost every turn.
It stings even further since those themes actually belonged in a "sequel" due to the time frame that was established.
The Show isn't bad...but I don't know if that's worse, I've seen a lot of animation, the original ATLA, HxH, JoJo, GL Kill La Kill, and I would rate all of them over Korra. Hell, I just thought Kill La Kill was good not great.
The show is passable as entertainment, that doesn't try to tell me anything. But unlike JoJo that knows what it is, Korra constantly try to shoehorn messages into it, while ignoring huge ass problems in the world like the Non-bender segregation. Thus the lessons come off as insincere.
Gurran and Kill La Kill both had a messaged that it wanted to tell me and that is interwoven into the plot. (Gurran's is never stop moving forward, no matter what happens you need to better yourself even at your lowest point. Kill La Kill's was don't take for granted all the amazing and unique people that are around as they will bring you back when you lose your way)
Korra? Eh...I still don't know, it wants to tell me something, but it never does.
The show is passable as entertainment, that doesn't try to tell me anything. But unlike JoJo that knows what it is, Korra constantly try to shoehorn messages into it, while ignoring huge ass problems in the world like the Non-bender segregation. Thus the lessons come off as insincere.
Gurran and Kill La Kill both had a messaged that it wanted to tell me and that is interwoven into the plot. (Gurran's is never stop moving forward, no matter what happens you need to better yourself even at your lowest point. Kill La Kill's was don't take for granted all the amazing and unique people that are around as they will bring you back when you lose your way)
Korra? Eh...I still don't know, it wants to tell me something, but it never does.
Admiral Woofington
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If there was a badass hispanic lead that wasn't a stereotype in a position of power in a role similar to Kuvira, I wouldn't want to use that character as an example of 'look these guys did it right'. Because the character would basically just be a blank canvas that could have been anybody or any gender/race.
This is the issue with writing and the premise of the "strong female characters" comic. You can't give a woman a gun and make her not give any fucks and expect this to be strong writing and say that sexism is over.
Now I'm not saying that Korra necessarily follows what I'm talking about above. Just mentioning it in general.
Icyflamez96
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oh snap I thought that was photoshopped
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Yeah, I understand. Satch in particular made a great post to the question. Let me see if I can find it. ...
Got'em
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=123384347&postcount=5955
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=123407705&postcount=5966
Icyflamez96
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Admiral Woofington
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I don't recall seeing the last panel ever, is that a spoiler for the finale from the preview? Some of it looks photoshopped so maybe it isn't
Um, spoilers?
Icyflamez96
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My mistake.
But on that note, here's the finale clip for people who want to watch it since I don't think it's been posted yet.
http://dongbufeng.tumblr.com/post/105066931203/preview-clip-from-the-book-4-finale-x
But on that note, here's the finale clip for people who want to watch it since I don't think it's been posted yet.
http://dongbufeng.tumblr.com/post/105066931203/preview-clip-from-the-book-4-finale-x
Admiral Woofington
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Spoilers in KorraGAF strike again. You should have really thought that one through considering that nobody would make a maymay unless it was concrete evidence because if so it would have the chance to be irrelevant in about a week.
LupusWarrior
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Icyflamez96
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I thought it was a joking "what if" scenario but i'm not sure how I didn't notice it was a legitimate picture at first.
Admiral Woofington
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well regardless I would have spoiled myself with this lol since I tend to watch these previews the second they are posted.
TacticalFox88
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Well, looks like Mako survived lol.
No deaths here.
No deaths here.
brickarts295
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lol indeed.
Admiral Woofington
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yep. you can apply this with every minority usually. AtlA I felt did a better job with strong female protagonists/main characters.
Guys take into consideration that not everybody will watch the preview, and that spoilers need to be tagged until the episode releases on Nick.com by the thread rules
Phoenician_Viking
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Icyflamez96
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Spongebob is da real over arching villain of the series.
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Xpike
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He's the cause of the budget cuts, move to online, and reduced episode count. We've finally cracked the cut, guys!
Yes!
I hope they added some references to that - I'd be surprised if they didn't. But just no giant blue korra - please.
It's going to return isn't it 
Sponge Bob laughing at the Crew
It all makes sense now...
Youtube mirror by the way.
Suppose that's one way to prevent a weeks worth of debates about who or if someone died.
Haha perfect
Spongebob has slowly throughout the years been sending out spies and assassins to create turmoil with the avatar world. Create that much needed chaos that will make for an easy pushover once his invasion force attacks.
tkscz
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Where's Sangok when you need him?
JadedWriter
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WrenchNinja
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The only kids show I know that ends with the bad guy winning is ReBoot
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Stayed up all night playing LittleBigPlanet 3 with Hamlet. It kind of made me realize that, talking about Korra in person is way better than via text. Just because, criticisms seem a lot more positive rather than super negative or mean spirited. I guess, text always comes off a bit more negative (more cold, although sometimes it can also be more expressive). But just talking it out, was a lot more interesting at least to me.
Anyways, guess I'm playing Halo MCC with Toa TAK today. Won't be any critical analysis. Just hours of gushing over Kuvira.
EDIT: well assuming Xbox One's party chat works, and MCC actually works. SMH.
Anyways, guess I'm playing Halo MCC with Toa TAK today. Won't be any critical analysis. Just hours of gushing over Kuvira.
EDIT: well assuming Xbox One's party chat works, and MCC actually works. SMH.
WrenchNinja
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rip tony jay
I still think the finale HAS to bring in some mythology. Whether that is Korra getting back her past life connections. Or something having to do with the spirits uniting against Kuvira, to signify the new era of Spirits/people living together as one (and thus having to look out for one another).
There has to be something that ties this all together. It can't just be a Kuvira vs Korra physical fight. It just can't be.
I'm not expecting much. Like, I do think the majority of it will be fighting between Kuvira and Korra. But I would be shocked if that's all it was. Especially given they haven't done enough to flesh out Kuvira. So it then has to shift back to Korra (which the entire season has been about her demons and her relevancy). So it has to be more.
I'm still thinking we will get an epilogue at the end (hello Harry Potter lmao)...but they don't have the time to give endings to all these characters. To a flash forward ending makes sense. If they have Mako X Korra together in a flash forward, that will be the shittiest cop out of all time.
There has to be something that ties this all together. It can't just be a Kuvira vs Korra physical fight. It just can't be.
I'm not expecting much. Like, I do think the majority of it will be fighting between Kuvira and Korra. But I would be shocked if that's all it was. Especially given they haven't done enough to flesh out Kuvira. So it then has to shift back to Korra (which the entire season has been about her demons and her relevancy). So it has to be more.
I'm still thinking we will get an epilogue at the end (hello Harry Potter lmao)...but they don't have the time to give endings to all these characters. To a flash forward ending makes sense. If they have Mako X Korra together in a flash forward, that will be the shittiest cop out of all time.
Slamtastic
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The world not needing an Avatar and Korra dying, like the franchise.
SoulUnison
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I bet Kuvira shoves Korra into a wall *really* hard and it just happens to nudge the vertebrae that corresponds to the "connection with your past lives because it's the series finale" chakra.
Icyflamez96
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This is my main gripe with the internet.
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