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[Mononoke]

You know, it kind of occurs to me that this show really covered the gamut of 'product of the industrial revolution political ideologies' pretty well. Populist Amon, anarchist Zaheer, republican Reiko, exhiled heir to demolished monarchy Wu, Fascist and cult of personality Kuvira. Really all that's missing is something outright communistic/soviet.

Of course, that's just one of the myriad ways this show is an unfocused mess, but it's also kind of interesting.

Yeah. Although I would say, more so in like general ideas and time pieces, and not so much in plot (like getting to depths of why and how these things played out). But you are right, like just progressing through that entire era, they really did hit on all the points in a larger sense.

ATLA was more focused on the fantasy plot, and all the side plot (given its structure). But it also had some pretty interesting things that reflected world events, or just really relevant modern political themes. But Korra was a lot more honed in on that.

 

[Hamlet]

To be honest, there are a lot of loose ends like other members mentioned in the series. Like what happened to all the Equalists throughout Republic City? No way they managed to identify and capture every member of a group that large and powerful. What exactly did Jinora do in the season 2 finale? The writers even made fun of it in that recap episode yet they never exactly addressed how it was done. There are so many loose ends in this series as well as the fact that we've seen so little of the Avatar World in this time like the Fire Nation.

Well for that one even the writers admitted they had no idea what it exactly was that Jinora did ha and said they'll leave it up to the fans to come up with theories. As for the Equalists i'm pretty sure Mike or Bryan said a while ago that the group basically fell apart and scattered once Amon was shown to be a fake. Some of them do show up in the game but they're pretty much fancy mercenaries there and working with the Triple Threat Triads lol.

I kept thinking this season would be a political plot, and it would break out with Kuvira's dictatorship going to war with Red Lotus. So you have two competing sides, and just the entire place in a mess.

But nope. They instead focused 100% on Kuvira, no political plot or depth to the plot. And they didn't even really do much with Kuvira. Truly strange stuff. I would have been 100% okay with Kuvira being the main focus, if they just had went all the way with her.

Yeah I'm pretty disappointed in how fast the whole Red Lotus stuff was dropped. Oh well maybe we might see Red Lotus get fleshed out a bit more if they pop up in the future comics.

Jesus...anyone else getting a Doctor Doom vibe from Kuvira?

Nah she doesn't look like a hacker to me heh.

You know. Outside of S2 and the ending of S1, I can pinpoint my biggest issue with Korra as introduction of unnecessary characters that cut away the screen time and development of already established characters.
Kai is the biggest culprit.

All that wasted Kai time. I don't mind him as a character but his time could have been better suited in building up Kuvira.

 

[Mononoke]

Kai is funny too, because he's like legit not even existent anymore. So ti just makes it even more ridiculous why they introduced him and wasted that time. Zaheer and his Z-team really could have used a single episode to flesh them out. They had such an interesting implied back-story, and their chemistry was really interesting. They had a fascinating relationship.

If only they had done just a little more, I think the finale would have really strengthened Zaheer's character, and what he was doing. SO CLOSE. But nope, Kai. This new character that wont' be seen again past Season 3 (and most of Season 3 for that matter), totally needs 2 episodes.

 

[m_shortpants]

Kai is funny too, because he's like legit not even existent anymore. So ti just makes it even more ridiculous why they introduced him and wasted that time. Zaheer and his Z-team really could have used a single episode to flesh them out. They had such an interesting implied back-story, and their chemistry was really interesting. They had a fascinating relationship.

If only they had done just a little more, I think the finale would have really strengthened Zaheer's character, and what he was doing. SO CLOSE. But nope, Kai. This new character that wont' be seen again past Season 3 (and most of Season 3 for that matter), totally needs 2 episodes.

Agreed, although he's an annoying shit, I think I'd have been fine with Kai had they used a little more this season. He was in the first episode or two then completely dropped off the map.

I have no idea why they kept creating all these characters.

 

[Plywood]

I like how this season even took the time to introduce Opal's boogery bison at the 10th episode no less.

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[Mononoke]

Not much to say except I agree. It was grating to see how Lin was treated and how the writers just grazed over it as a non-issue even when going out of their way to dedicate episodes and arcs to it. Toph was handled well with her interactions with Korra, but the whole family rift aspect and all the blame being piled on the person who got the short end of the stick was just so crooked.

I guess it just hits home for me. I have some shitty family members. Like, my family is really religious and conservative. And I'm not. And they started treating me badly because I wasn't religious. And then when I became successful in the arts, they condemned me for doing evil things (yeah, music and writing is so evil).

Anyways, when I was fighting cancer, my mom actually suggested that I deserved it. That god gave it to me because I was a sinner. I got no support, and it broke my heart.

Thing is, I can let go of that. I cant stop having that plague my life and bring me down. But I will be damned if my Mom tries to make up with me years later, and doesn't actually feel bad for what she said and did, but then expects me to forgive her. Nope. Fuck that. I'm open to forgiving her, if she really sees what she did was wrong. If she really is sorry, and lets me know. If she steps up to the plate and realizes what she did was unacceptable, and acknowledges the pain she caused me.

But expecting me to forgive just because time has passed, and because she is family. Fuck that. She wasn't my family when I needed her.

So I kind of found this plot insulting. Just the way Bryke kind of pushes it like, it was on her to forgive. And she was the problem for not forgiving. Again, forgiveness requires the other person to actually step up and deserve it.

 

[Plywood]

Wow Azula, I'm sorry to hear that. That is absolutely shitty.

 

[Mononoke]

Wow Azula, I'm sorry to hear that. That is absolutely shitty.

It's okay. It hurts, but I'm over it. Didn't really want to make that about me lol. More so, I was just giving an example of how, I don't think everyone deserves forgiveness (especially if they don't take the steps to make it right). I hate the idea that, it's a flaw or it falls on the victim for not forgiving their abuser. Like how dare they.

The only point I think the writers had, which is 100% right, was that Lin let these things control her life. They made her bitter. And like in my case, I would never allow my Mom to do that to me. I own my life, and would never let that poison me. So that is where Lin messed up. But they didn't even really go into depth with that angle, so it only worked so much.

Most of the focus was on her not forgiving. And the way Toph and Su is portrayed. Meh.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Kuvira really just did it. It's a smart move, but damn. The worst part is you just know Kuvira didn't give Baatar no pussy. Definitely kept him hanging and hypnotized him with her charisma.

Kuvira is the world's greatest Simp-Bender.

 

[m_shortpants]

LOL @ the about section on nick.com. Poor Asami

 

[Mononoke]

LOL @ the about section on nick.com. Poor Asami

Pabu/Naga more important than Asami. LOL

 

[Hamlet]

Wow that a really shitty thing your mum did. Sorry to hear you had to go through that Azula.

LOL @ the about section on nick.com. Poor Asami

Poor Asami. Asami and Wendy from Gravity Falls should create a protest group over how they're treated by their respective networks ha.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Pabu/Naga more important than Asami. LOL

Well, if you are watching the first season for the first time, though, it's kinda best that they keep Asami's details underwraps. I understand it.

lol, when the first season was going on, I thought she was Am-... I'm too embarrassed to say it. (

 

[m_shortpants]

Pabu/Naga more important than Asami. LOL

I'm guessing they put that up at the onset of season one and never updated it. Still, it's hilarious.

 

[Mononoke]

Well, if you are watching the first season for the first time, though, it's kinda best that they keep Asami's details underwraps. I understand it.

lol, when the first season was going on, I thought she was Am-... I'm too embarrassed to say it. (

lol I guess I never saw that. But I do remember a lot of fans were expecting her to be bad. Which the writing was set up that way.

I guess I figured they would have updated that About section. But I guess it would just be for Season 1.

I'm guessing they put that up at the onset of season one and never updated it. Still, it's hilarious.

Yeah, unintentionally funny, because of how it ends up being accurate to what happens to her character. LOL

I guess that is what makes it funny.

 

[m_shortpants]

lol I guess I never saw that. But I do remember a lot of fans were expecting her to be bad. Which the writing was set up that way.

I guess I figured they would have updated that About section. But I guess it would just be for Season 1.



Yeah, unintentionally funny, because of how it ends up being accurate to what happens to her character. LOL

I guess that is what makes it funny.

I can see the thought process too:

"Hey guys! PABU!!! He's kinda like MOMO, RIGHT? PUT HIM ON THERE!"

Ah, good times. Not gonna lie, I really loved season one of Korra despite the entirely valid criticisms of the ending.

 

[Mononoke]

I can see the thought process too:

"Hey guys! PABU!!! He's kinda like MOMO, RIGHT? PUT HIM ON THERE!"

Ah, good times. Not gonna lie, I really loved season one of Korra despite the entirely valid criticisms of the ending.

m_shortpants works for Nick. Time to pull off that mask....

 

[Admiral Woofington]

the fucking dog and the squeaky ferret got a place and Asami didn't I am DYING over here HAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Mononoke]

the fucking dog and the squeaky ferret got a place and Asami didn't I am DYING over here HAHAHAHAHAHA

I guess it was made during Book 1 (so when they first were introducing the show) and so Asami was introduced till later. They just never updated it.

But it's hilarious given how accurate it is once the show played out.

 

[m_shortpants]

m_shortpants works for Nick. Time to pull off that mask....

I was looking for an image to respond to this on google and I came across something I had never even considered: "Suvira"

tumblr is a weird place dude.

 

[televator]

How was there not even a small vague mention by Kuvira or anyone about some secret technological trump card that seemed different from the spirit canon thing.... I mean I'd imagine undertaking the task of researching and designing a giant bipedal battle tank might be at least on the same level of importance as the goddam spirit vine canon. It's almost as if... it was just made up all of a sudden.

I guess the time constraints on this season lead to this?

 

[Icyflamez96]

I guess it just hits home for me. I have some shitty family members. Like, my family is really religious and conservative. And I'm not. And they started treating me badly because I wasn't religious. And then when I became successful in the arts, they condemned me for doing evil things (yeah, music and writing is so evil).

Anyways, when I was fighting cancer, my mom actually suggested that I deserved it. That god gave it to me because I was a sinner. I got no support, and it broke my heart.

what the fn hell

 

[Mononoke]

I was looking for an image to respond to this on google and I came across something I had never even considered: "Suvira"

tumblr is a weird place dude.

Yes it is. I feel like an old man at 26. I have family that is 17, so I never considered the gap that large. But they are on Tumbr 24/7 and it's just something I never understood. The humor. The shipping. Just all the bullshit on there. I guess that's just how it is. Like you will always be baffled by the new generation as you get older and older.

Just feels strange to me, because I don't feel that far removed from Tumblr. Since we grew up with the internet, and are deeply tied to things like memes. I just find Tumblr to be a bizarro cesspool

Some really cool art though.

what the fn hell

SMH. Terrible right? I haven't been on good terms with them for a couple years. But when I informed my family that I was dying, I kind of expected them to put aside their bullshit and help me. Since I was so weak, and was like you know dying. But nope. Got zero support.

 

[maharg]

How was there not even a small vague mention by Kuvira or anyone about some secret technological trump card that seemed different from the spirit canon thing.... I mean I'd imagine undertaking the task of researching and designing a giant bipedal battle tank might be at least on the same level of importance as the goddam spirit vine canon. It's almost as if... it was just made up all of a sudden.

I guess the time constraints on this season lead to this?

Well, I think the idea is supposed to be that Baatar invented it before the spirit canon was finished. I don't remember them really building up to the idea that he was an inventor, but they've mentioned it like 3 times in the last couple of episodes now.

 

[Icyflamez96]

How old are we all here? I just turned 18.... Still feel really young though tbh

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I guess it just hits home for me. I have some shitty family members. Like, my family is really religious and conservative. And I'm not. And they started treating me badly because I wasn't religious. And then when I became successful in the arts, they condemned me for doing evil things (yeah, music and writing is so evil).

Anyways, when I was fighting cancer, my mom actually suggested that I deserved it. That god gave it to me because I was a sinner. I got no support, and it broke my heart.

Thing is, I can let go of that. I cant stop having that plague my life and bring me down. But I will be damned if my Mom tries to make up with me years later, and doesn't actually feel bad for what she said and did, but then expects me to forgive her. Nope. Fuck that. I'm open to forgiving her, if she really sees what she did was wrong. If she really is sorry, and lets me know. If she steps up to the plate and realizes what she did was unacceptable, and acknowledges the pain she caused me.

But expecting me to forgive just because time has passed, and because she is family. Fuck that. She wasn't my family when I needed her.

So I kind of found this plot insulting. Just the way Bryke kind of pushes it like, it was on her to forgive. And she was the problem for not forgiving. Again, forgiveness requires the other person to actually step up and deserve it.

My parents actually are still bothered by the fact I'm agnostic when they're all catholic. They still think it's a phase and that I'm being rebellious. They just can't seem to comprehend how the more culturally mixed world of the US gave me other perspectives besides the hyper catholic hispanic ones they gave to me.

It hasn't really been brought up too much though, because I did certain shit to make them happy. Like do my confirmation even when I have zero faith, just so I can get married in a catholic church.

Also don't take this the wrong way, but screw your family man You're a great dude and don't deserve that shit. If they can't put aside their religion to come together on a family member in need? Fuck that.

The whole argument of "friends come and go and family is forever" is generalized shit for people who have happy perfect families. I know folks who are closer with their friends than with their family. Heck I love my family, but I'm closer with my friends.

How old are we all here? I just turned 18.... Still feel really young though tbh

23. Finishing my final semester this week and graduating. In finals right now.

 

[m_shortpants]

How old are we all here? I just turned 18.... Still feel really young though tbh

23. But I already feel out of touch with people your age LOL.

 

[Mononoke]

My parents actually are still bothered by the fact I'm agnostic when they're all catholic. They still think it's a phase and that I'm being rebellious. They just can't seem to comprehend how the more culturally mixed world of the US gave me other perspectives besides the hyper catholic hispanic ones they gave to me.

It hasn't really been brought up too much though, because I did certain shit to make them happy. Like do my confirmation even when I have zero faith, just so I can get married in a catholic church.

Also don't take this the wrong way, but screw your family man You're a great dude and don't deserve that shit. If they can't put aside their religion to come together on a family member in need? Fuck that.

The whole argument of "friends come and go and family is forever" is generalized shit for people who have happy perfect families. I know folks who are closer with their friends than with their family. Heck I love my family, but I'm closer with my friends.



23. Finishing my final semester this week and graduating. In finals right now.

Yeah well said. I think family is whoever is there for you when it matters. It's the people that actually love and respect you. There is a ton of people on GAF that I would consider my family. Those that were there for me during my worst times, and gave support unconditionally. That to me, is more family then blood family that are terrible people.

 

[Gotchaye]

I don't remember it all that well but I feel like the Beifong drama is maybe another instance of values dissonance between the show and the audience. Like, from one perspective Lin got her scar because she attacked her sister who defended herself, then threw a fit when her mother wouldn't throw her sister in jail or something, and distanced herself from the family after that. Lin's got to be pretty unusual, given the setting. Of course abstract ideas like equality under the law take a backseat to family loyalty. Of course being chief of police comes with certain perks. Would other characters side with Lin or Toph and Su here? I feel like odds are they'd side with Toph and Su, and so in a way it makes a lot of sense that the outcome they work towards is Lin letting the past go and deciding not to be so uptight.

I don't remember the circumstances around Toph not telling the girls who their fathers were or why she decided to tell Bolin in front of Lin - was this explained or was it just a "the ATLA characters were shitty parents" moment?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

I don't remember it all that well but I feel like the Beifong drama is maybe another instance of values dissonance between the show and the audience. Like, from one perspective Lin got her scar because she attacked her sister who defended herself, then threw a fit when her mother wouldn't throw her sister in jail or something, and distanced herself from the family after that. Lin's got to be pretty unusual, given the setting. Of course abstract ideas like equality under the law take a backseat to family loyalty. Of course being chief of police comes with certain perks. Would other characters side with Lin or Toph and Su here? I feel like odds are they'd side with Toph and Su, and so in a way it makes a lot of sense that outcome they work towards is Lin letting the past go and deciding not to be so uptight.

I don't remember the circumstances around Toph not telling the girls who their fathers were - was this explained or was it just a "the ATLA characters were shitty parents" moment?

Toph just made it seem like it didn't matter so she never told them. But the only possible reasoning the show could give me as to why she couldn't even mention their names is "shitty parents"

 

[Mononoke]

I don't remember it all that well but I feel like the Beifong drama is maybe another instance of values dissonance between the show and the audience. Like, from one perspective Lin got her scar because she attacked her sister who defended herself, then threw a fit when her mother wouldn't throw her sister in jail or something, and distanced herself from the family after that. Lin's got to be pretty unusual, given the setting. Of course abstract ideas like equality under the law take a backseat to family loyalty. Of course being chief of police comes with certain perks. Would other characters side with Lin or Toph and Su here? I feel like odds are they'd side with Toph and Su, and so in a way it makes a lot of sense that outcome they work towards is Lin letting the past go and deciding not to be so uptight.

I don't remember the circumstances around Toph not telling the girls who their fathers were or why she decided to tell Bolin in front of Lin - was this explained or was it just a "the ATLA characters were shitty parents" moment?

I always saw it pretty cut and dry. Toph didn't want to parent her children, because she rejected the idea of imposing her will on her children like her parents did to her.

That meant Su was running wild, breaking the law. Doing bad things. But Lin..who wanted to follow in her mother's foot steps, saw all the things Su was doing was wrong (I don't really think this is subjective, she was literally a criminal and just a general shitty person). Toph also had a bit of resentment towards Lin, because Lin wanting to be like her mom, meant that Lin wasn't living her life on her own, and being what she wanted to be (that's how Toph saw Lin for following in her footsteps).

I don't really see where you could argue that Lin is the bad guy in this situation. The only part that Lin plays a role in, is the fact that she held on to her anger and let it poison her and make her bitter. Maybe the writers just did a shit job showing us the entire plot. But Toph and Su never took responsibility for their actions. And never really felt sorry for what they did. So while Lin is to blame for not letting go, I don't see why it falls on her to forgive those that didn't deserve forgiveness.

I just don't see the angle, where Lin was in the wrong from the very beginning. I mean, even the scene where Toph sides with Su and gets pissed at Lin for busting Su (because it would be a smear on her reputation). So again allowing Su to be a piece of shit and run wild and be criminal, and then getting mad at Lin for actually doing her job as a police officer. Toph chews out Lin, covers up Su...and then does something illegal to cover it up.

So not sure I see where you are coming from. Saying Lin threw a fit because her mother wouldn't put her in jail...I mean really? That is really how you sum it up. It wasn't even just that moment, it was an entire lifetime of Toph being a terrible parent. And why was Lin throwing a fit? She was right. I didn't see it as a fit. Also why would other characters side with Toph and Su. Unless you are saying other characters are morally bankrupt, and see no problem doing something illegal to cover up the actions of someone in their family.

I guess?

 

[Gotchaye]

So not sure I see where you are coming from. Saying Lin threw a fit because her mother wouldn't put her in jail...I mean really? That is really how you sum it up. It wasn't even just that moment, it was an entire lifetime of Toph being a terrible parent. And why was Lin throwing a fit? She was right. I didn't see it as a fit. Also why would other characters side with Toph and Su. Wat.

I mean, these are people who think that Wu has a right to near-absolute political authority (over the nameless masses), many of whom were willing to fight for that when it even kind of looked like Kuvira was just a populist leader. Several of them are members of an international secret society that seems to consider itself above the laws of the three/four nations, and they took it upon themselves to just decide to raise the new Avatar in a bizarre way. And they apparently run super maximum security prisons by themselves. When Korra saw what appeared to be a properly-run trial go against her own family member, she forced the judge off the road, probably totaling his car, and made very serious threats against his person, and at no point does anyone suggest that she acted wrongly that I recall. IIRC before that Korra went way outside the Republic City legal process to confront that Water Tribe counselor in his office. She seemed about to go to war over some curfew that was handed down from the government at one point.

These are not people with a great deal of respect for the rule of law or the principle of equality under the law.

 

[Mononoke]

I mean, these are people who think that Wu has a right to near-absolute political authority (over the nameless masses), many of whom were willing to fight for that when it even kind of looked like Kuvira was just a populist leader. Several of them are members of an international secret society that seems to consider itself above the laws of the three/four nations, and they took it upon themselves to just decide to raise the new Avatar in a bizarre way. And they apparently run super maximum security prisons by themselves. When Korra saw what appeared to be a properly-run trial go against her own family member, she forced the judge off the road, probably totaling his car, and made very serious threats against his person, and at no point does anyone suggest that she acted wrongly that I recall. IIRC before that Korra went way outside the Republic City legal process to confront that Water Tribe counselor in his office. She seemed about to go to war over some curfew that was handed down from the government at one point.

These are not people with a great deal of respect for the rule of law or the principle of equality under the law.

Korra was wrong there though. And that made her seem like a really shitty person? At least to me it did. And like here, I feel the same way about Su and Toph. I don't really get what the argument is.

That, it's okay to be terrible as long as you are loyal to family? I mean, I can understand if someone takes that position, then yes, they would certainly think Lin is in the wrong here. I guess with regards to morality, and what is right and wrong, you can't say something is ever truly objective.

But at least to me, it seems pretty clear that Lin was wronged by these people on numerous occasions. *shrugs*

I think, the plot definitely needed more time fleshed out (which okay, that is what we can say for the majority of side plot on this show lol). Maybe it might explain why the show so heavily leaned towards Lin being wrong? Like their intentions were something else, but the way the plot played out in the short time, it came off a different way to people.

 

[Gotchaye]

Korra was wrong there though. And that made her seem like a really shitty person? At least to me it did. And like here, I feel the same way about Su and Toph. I don't really get what the argument is.

That, it's okay to be terrible as long as you are loyal to family? I mean, I can understand if someone takes that position, then yes, they would certainly think Lin is in the wrong here. I guess with regards to morality, and what is right and wrong, you can't say something is ever truly objective.

But at least to me, it seems pretty clear that Lin was wronged by these people on numerous occasions. *shrugs*

Right, this is the values dissonance I'm talking about. The show gets really weird pretty often where it's in-universe endorsing ideas that the audience thinks of as at least a century out of date. The audience reacts to Lin's story very differently than in-universe characters do, and the show just sort of uncritically portrays the in-universe reaction. That'd actually be really interesting if the show seemed aware that it was doing this.

 

[Atraveller]

Wow, Asami is officially a background character confirmed.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

I gave up hope at Kuvira actually getting any depth a long time ago, so I actually didn't mind see her just try to kill every and anything in her way.

At this rate I'm expecting her to go batshit crazy during her fight with Korra like Azula or something. And then when she's beat, she'll try to set off some nuke that she had Bataar Jr. make off screen at some unknown time (which he made without a question of course because "I luv u!") and perform a suicide strike on the whole city. After kissing Mako for some random ass fanservice, Korra will take the bomb outside the city and "sacrifice" herself....only for it to be revealed at the very end that she inexplicably survived and is chilling at the swamp with Toph for the rest of her life.

Whatever.

Given the way this is going, that sounds entirely plausible.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Asami a background confirmed.

 

[Atraveller]

Given the way this is going, that sounds entirely plausible.

I was wondering how this ending has anything to do with "Balance", then I just realized, all the stuff that has happened so far has nothing to do with "Balance".

 

[Veelk]

Right, this is the values dissonance I'm talking about. The show gets really weird pretty often where it's in-universe endorsing ideas that the audience thinks of as at least a century out of date. The audience reacts to Lin's story very differently than in-universe characters do, and the show just sort of uncritically portrays the in-universe reaction. That'd actually be really interesting if the show seemed aware that it was doing this.

Whats really weird is that TLA was very much in line with more modern morals for the most part. It promoted the idea of equality (that we're all the same people) and even with it's divine right to rule stuff, the 'good' kings were the ones who often saw themselves as ordinary people (the earth king went on to travel through the city as an ordinary man, Iroh is a royal that has no problem chilling with anyone, Bumi is the same, etc).

 

[Mononoke]

Right, this is the values dissonance I'm talking about. The show gets really weird pretty often where it's in-universe endorsing ideas that the audience thinks of as at least a century out of date. The audience reacts to Lin's story very differently than in-universe characters do, and the show just sort of uncritically portrays the in-universe reaction. That'd actually be really interesting if the show seemed aware that it was doing this.

Oh got ya. Sorry, I only got 3 hours of sleep last night, and I'm kind of running on empty. Should be getting to sleep. I understand what you are saying. And you are right, the world is kind of odd/inconsistent at times with this kind of stuff.

I have no issue with morally grey things either. I don't think it always has to be black or white, or good vs evil. But it's just kind of hard to do that, when there seems to be a clear cut right person, and wrong person. And yet, they want you to side with the wrong person. If it was left more in the air, like everyone was to blame, or they aren't sure who is to blame...then I that would work for me a lot more.

But when you see things like Korra acting like a thug and roughing up judges, yeahhhhh

 

[Icyflamez96]

Tbh they're a lot of season 2 Korra moments I didn't like but I admit I liked this scene

'


unrightfully jailed her father and she was like or nah

 

[Hamlet]

This is pretty cool.

 

[CDiggity]

As cool as that is, Korra is wasting her time since only the sacred sword can hurt/kill them.

 

[UnnecessaryTodd]

I love the Avatar universe. I really do. I have been very very forgiving with Korra. Book 2 was an atrocity, Book 1 was good, Book 3 was brilliant.

Book 4? Lazy. Plain old lazy. Gorramit I want to enjoy this so badly.

What has the story of Book 4 been? The FINAL book of Korra and potentially the last thing we see in the Avatar universe (on television at least). Kuvira is taking over the Earth Kingdom and Korra recovers from Book 3's amazingness.

... I can't actually think of any meaningful events that have happened other than that. I kept saying to myself "Ok, final season, there's still 10 episodes left so it'll pick up."

"There's still 6 episodes left so now we're at the juicy bit."

"There's only 3 episodes left... ???"

Now there's next weeks double episode finale and I don't think any amount of quality could sway me from being thoroughly and completely disappointed in Book 4. As fun as it was, Korra's recovery had a lot of filler. Toph was fun, Zaheer's moment was ok, but ATLA could've taken care of these in 2 episodes. This season was meant to be epic and it has been as slow as Kuvira's advancing army... because that's the ONLY thing that has been happening.

I just don't even know where to begin with problems. This season has just felt like filler? It feels like every episode is just waiting for the next episode to have something great in it and while it keeps hinting and hinting at greatness to come it never pays off except with an occasional "cool" fight scene.

I mean, to top all this off I've found the action of Season 4 to be some of the worst of the franchise. I am not a fan of the mech outfits and the show has just become more and more bending vs mechs and that just doesn't interest me because the mechs have no adaptability to them. They are mechs and they can do X,Y,Z. Bending was this art form that was always expressing itself in different, unique and wonderful ways back in ATLA and now it's just... Fire punch, Earth punch, Air punch... Water slap.

I'm just really disappointed with how Korra turned out as a show overall... I gave it every chance along the way and all the benefit of the doubt on the strength of ATLA and the occasional brilliance of Book 3 and my general enjoyment of Book 1 but... I can't really put it any other way now that it's coming to a close. We had almost an entire half season of closure for all the characters of ATLA with The Runaway (Toph) Boiling Rock (Sokka/Suki), Southern Raiders (Katara), The Beach (Azula's Trio and Zuko) and for the whole cast with Ember Island Players and obviously Aang with Sozin's Comet... and here I felt like none of the characters really had anything to give closure to... They've all existed in this bubble of there being a Big Bad each Book and then dealing with it without growing or changing except for Korra, who transformed from a bratty but strong-willed and headstrong hothead to a.... Generic blueprint of what she thinks "The Avatar" is and should be.

 

[SilentMatthew]

On the values dissonance of Beifongs(feat.Tenzin) with respect to Lin.

 

[Atraveller]

Poor Lin

 

[JadedWriter]

Poor Lin

It's easy to picture Lin knocking back some beer after dealing with her family. Regarding family...Holy Shit Azula, fuck your family god damn!!!
I love these things:

How old are we all here? I just turned 18.... Still feel really young though tbh

Can someone like 40 or something pop in here you guys are making me feel old, I'm 30.

 

[Toa TAK]

I am 20!

And yeah, not cool of your family at all Azula. =\

 

[Dispatch]

I admit the slow and the clips episode has really made me lose interest. My family and I used to sit down and watch the episodes each Friday, but now we're two weeks behind and no one really has any enthusiasm for watching.

It didn't help that it feels like Korra's FINALLY gotten over the hump and reconnected about four times this season.

I'll watch it at some point, but the urgency is just not there.

 

[Dispatch]

Can someone like 40 or something pop in here you guys are making me feel old, I'm 30.

I'm 41. Does that make you feel any better?