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I think I might be moving permanently to Lucario. Playing Bowser at a high level is just so frustrating. I'd be happier if they fixed his ledge grabbing and gave him no landing lag on fair.

Well if you like the Aura Rage go for it. But fighting a good ROB is always going to be a bullshit fight. Looking at you Jorge. Can't even swat them Gyro's away. They go nowhere. But really it's hard to decide who I want to commit to. It's a toughy between Ganondorf, Bowser, Dedede.
 
Nice matches kidd! Do you main Yoshi or Jigglypuff?

The dittos were fun. If you plan on using Yoshi I'd advice you to spam FAir a bit less haha, it got predictable! Otherwise, it was pretty cool! I never see any Yoshi online.

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Who wants to play?

NNID: Kyzon_Xin

I can play Kyzon. I'll add you.
 
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So I guess that leaves Lucas?
 
Nice matches kidd! Do you main Yoshi or Jigglypuff?

The dittos were fun. If you plan on using Yoshi I'd advice you to spam FAir a bit less haha, it got predictable! Otherwise, it was pretty cool! I never see any Yoshi online.

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I can play Kyzon. I'll add you.

Thanks for the tip. Yoshi is my main, I'm trying to learn jiggly. Those were pretty fun I don't know if I had a harder time against Yoshi or Rob. Both are very solid.
 
Nice matches kidd! Do you main Yoshi or Jigglypuff?

The dittos were fun. If you plan on using Yoshi I'd advice you to spam FAir a bit less haha, it got predictable! Otherwise, it was pretty cool! I never see any Yoshi online.

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I can play Kyzon. I'll add you.

Accepted

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Thanks for the tip. Yoshi is my main, I'm trying to learn jiggly. Those were pretty fun I don't know if I had a harder time against Yoshi or Rob. Both are very solid.

Ah nice! Cool to meet another Yoshi main. I'd say I fared better with Yoshi since I lost most of ROB's ones...
 
Well if you like the Aura Rage go for it. But fighting a good ROB is always going to be a bullshit fight. Looking at you Jorge. Can't even swat them Gyro's away. They go nowhere. But really it's hard to decide who I want to commit to. It's a toughy between Ganondorf, Bowser, Dedede.
I like that Lucario is a pretty safe character. Everything Bowser does has endlag on it outside of his jabs, and is punishable. I was really raging last night when I played a fantastic Marth that I just couldn't beat. It would always get down to 1 stock for each of us, and he would pull off the killing blow before I did. However, I only got as far as I did because, like any good Bowser player, I take a lot of risks. The risks I take tend to pay off, but it's so nice to play a character that wins without having to take risks. I am not a very risk-oriented player. I like a lot of safety in my gameplan. I originally thought Bowser was that kind of character, because he has great range and excellent defenses, but over time I've discovered that most characters have attacks with more range than him, and I have to get in to do real damage, so risks are necessary. This is greatly displeasing to me.

I would never quit Bowser completely, just because I have spent so much time on him and when things go right, it's soooo good. As I keep playing better and better players, however, the number of matches where things keep going right dwindles, and instead I feel more like a traditional grappler, suffering as I try to get my few hits in that win the game. Keep in mind that I'm not in any way complaining about Bowser, or saying that he's not good. I am just realizing that I am enjoying him less as the metagame evolves, and I might need to find a new focus.

You know what I love about Lucario? I think he has the best goddamn counter in the game. Counter a projectile from half a screen away, and Lucario will still hit the opponent. It's such a simple answer to keepaway attempts. I don't care about the Rage Aura, and I honestly think it's overrated. I would rather take the high Aura buffs and spread them throughout his character for more balanced play. Because it always makes me groan when I play perfectly for 30 seconds at the beginning of a match, whacking an opponent left and right the entire time, and I've only done 40% damage, which is just a few hits from Bowser. I know Bowser hits hard, but it's a huge difference. Then I'll get hit a few times and we're even, even though I've been playing far better than my opponent. There are two sides to Lucario's Aura.

I do like the playstyle that his Aura grants him, though. The range on side B and the power of his neutral B is pretty rad. I'm not huge on him aesthetically, and I'll probably go semi-random for a while until Mewtwo comes out. I'm hoping Mewtwo is very polished as the result of many months of work by Sakurai's team. If Palutena's teleport had a hitbox on it Zelda-style, I think I would main her forever.
 
I do like the playstyle that his Aura grants him, though. The range on side B and the power of his neutral B is pretty rad. I'm not huge on him aesthetically, and I'll probably go semi-random for a while until Mewtwo comes out. I'm hoping Mewtwo is very polished as the result of many months of work by Sakurai's team. If Palutena's teleport had a hitbox on it Zelda-style, I think I would main her forever.

I played a stupid good Zelda earlier today. That damage dealing Teleport is so stupid. I mean you can block it but sometimes it just catches me off guard and then I die. Really hard for Bowser to get in. I have a easier time with Dedede and Ganondorf.

But I really want to master Meta Knight because I think he can be very good. I guess I don't like super safe characters. I always seem to enjoy the high risk high reward characters.
 
You know what I wish I could do? Fast-fall fairs consistently with Palutena. I feel like a goddamn jackass trying to do that stuff in matches.

Darn lag, not what I meant to do

The lag is so terrible. Why is it that so many of you GAFers have terrible connections. Where are you based my man?

This is nasty lag. Can't do anything, lol
Y'all best be wired.

I played a stupid good Zelda earlier today. That damage dealing Teleport is so stupid. I mean you can block it but sometimes it just catches me off guard and then I die. Really hard for Bowser to get in. I have a easier time with Dedede and Ganondorf.

But I really want to master Meta Knight because I think he can be very good. I guess I don't like super safe characters. I always seem to enjoy the high risk high reward characters.
I know how you feel. Flare Blitz is my Zelda Teleport. I look at it and go "Oh yeah, that is so punishable - why is he doing that now?" Then I watch it come at me and get hit. I'm not even getting punished, I just forget to block half the time like an idiot. Though last night I played a Charizard I stomped repeatedly with Bowser, and I never once got hit by Flare Blitz. Those delicious Bowser Bomb punishes...

I don't follow finding Zelda to be hard to kill with Bowser. They've always been free for me, but maybe yours was exceptional.

And yeah, you love doing random high risk high reward stuff doing matches. Actually, you even love doing high risk low reward stuff - lol. That's cool. We all have our personality types, which is why we come to appreciate so many different characters. You know who I really like and didn't expect to? Dark Pit. I do so well with him for some reason, and I hardly even know what I'm doing.
 
LAN adapter and all.
Most of the time my connection is smooth as fucking butter. The past 2 days though the GAFers I've added have had games with me with some SERIOUS input delay and lag spikes. Right now it's just the delay.
 
LAN adapter and all.
Most of the time my connection is smooth as fucking butter. The past 2 days though the GAFers I've added have had games with me with some SERIOUS input delay and lag spikes. Right now it's just the delay.

I use a LAN adapter too.
 
Lmao huge ass lag spike as soon as I get a grab, game won't even let me throw you, meanwhile merciless combo where I can't airdodge or tech.

GGs man. I'm done. Like your Luigi.
 
Lmao huge ass lag spike as soon as I get a grab, game won't even let me throw you, meanwhile merciless combo where I can't airdodge or tech.

GGs man. I'm done. Like your Luigi.

Yeah, input lag outta nowhere at the start of the last match. I don't know what's the deal. On the other hand, you're the best diddy I've seen so far. ggs.
 
Lmao huge ass lag spike as soon as I get a grab, game won't even let me throw you, meanwhile merciless combo where I can't airdodge or tech.

GGs man. I'm done. Like your Luigi.

Care to play a few? I generally have a pretty good connection with most gaffers so let's see how it does.
 
Care to play a few? I generally have a pretty good connection with most gaffers so let's see how it does.

Sure. add egruntz.

By the way I just wanted to comment that my "like your luigi" message was me saying I liked your Luigi, not that your Luigi is also "done", whatever that might imply.

Sometimes I'm stupid with writing.
 
Also, I don't get why people complain about Falco's blaster. That is THE most annoying projectile in the game for Bowser to deal with, IMO. Right next to Bowser Jr's mecha koopa.
 
I don't follow finding Zelda to be hard to kill with Bowser. They've always been free for me, but maybe yours was exceptional.

Oh it was a good one. Edge guarding with fast fall Fairs and tended to get the sweet spot on Zelda's Fair. And Nayru's Love was also used as a edgeguard. Unless I used ledge getup attack or jumped over it I would get hit. And it punishes any kind of roll hard. Was all sorts of ugh. To win I had to take huge risks and hope my fake outs led into a Bowser Bomb or aerial dropkick. Or bait a teleport to eat my Fsmash.

Also, I don't get why people complain about Falco's blaster. That is THE most annoying projectile in the game for Bowser to deal with, IMO. Right next to Bowser Jr's mecha koopa.

All the more reason to complain honestly.
 
give me a moment egruntz. My Wii U is being stupid. Every time I click friends list the loading icon appears on the bottom right and doesn't leave. Anyone ever experience this? Unplugged my Wii U, restarted and everything. Still doing it.
 
"I haven't played Smash in a while..."

/gets online

First match, fights a Jigglypuff who does nothing but fairs, gets 2 stocked completely unable to do anything, barely gets off a few attacks.

/turns off Wii U
 
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