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I know a lot of people here really hate Book 2 but I really have trouble ranking the books other than 3 which is obviously the best. I'd say 1 2 and 4 are about even.

Even putting beginnings aside I think Book 2 was alright, with it it definitely matches up to 1 and 4 in my opinion.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Gentlemen, after Korra, get yourself to Young Justice.

The good show where the only disappointment is that it never got it's third season and in contrast to Korra should've run longer.

This got me thinking, why are the only American animated stuff on TV that is serious Avatar and comic book adaptations? Everything else is comedy or educational. It's even less diverse if we're talking about animated films.

 

[Hamlet]

So is this confirmed to be the last avatar content ever? Or is there a chance of them continuing the universe on another network.

Mostly likely going to be a while till we get a new animated series. But there are still ATLA comics coming out.

 

[Chariot]

only season 1 is on netflix, and Superboy is infuriating. It's pretty decent besides him though, although the "Hello Meagan" stuff is

Yeah, but they both get better. Especially in season 2 for that aspect.

Spoiler

Season 2 is after a sizable timeskip with a lot happening between the seasons that changed a lot.

Oh shit they gave Young Justice proper animation, looks nice. I was traumatized by Teen Titans go animation and just thought they cheeped out on Young Justice, looks worth watching.

Teen Titans Go is the sad replacement for Young Justice and Green Lantern TAS. I know that Go is pretty funny, but I still refuse to watch it because of that fact. Young Justice was something special. Well animated, well written and for me as DC fan, full of the good kind of fanservice.

This got me thinking, why are the only American animated stuff on TV that is serious Avatar and comic book adaptations? Everything else is comedy or educational

It's the perception of the states that cartoons are only for kids (with exceptions) and that kids are dumb and can't understand greater plot lines and complex characters.

 

[Gorillaz]

So is this confirmed to be the last avatar content ever? Or is there a chance of them continuing the universe on another network.

Mostly likely going to be a while till we get a new animated series. But there are still ATLA comics coming out.

Nick will reboot the show in 5 years with a different art style called LoK Go! and it will be a straight comedy

 

[Kangi]

Nick will reboot the show in 5 years with a different art style called LoK Go! and it will be a straight comedy

And Varrick will still be the only funny character.

 

[Astral]

Yoooo that ending. It actually happened. Nice! Pretty disappointing final battle though. Kuvira wasn't shit compared to Zaheer.

 

[Omikaru]

So is this confirmed to be the last avatar content ever? Or is there a chance of them continuing the universe on another network.

So far, this is it, but I'm holding out hope for more. My sanity demands it.

As for on another network, Nickelodeon/Viacom owns the ATLA/LOK IP, so someone would have to buy it from them.

Does KorraGAF know any rich patrons of the arts who would be willing to underwrite the cost of buying the IP and hiring Bryke to produce more? :3

 

[Pappasman]

Oh god some of these articles I am reading about the finale are so dumb. They sweep flaws under the rug so easily cause "omg it is so progressive for a kidz show", it's like what happened with The Last of Us with the lesbian dlc, although that story and relationship was much much better.

That vanity fair article? Ya, its pretty brutal.

 

[JadedWriter]

Teen Titans Go is the sad replacement for Young Justice and Green Lantern TAS. I know that Go is pretty funny, but I still refuse to watch it because of that fact. Young Justice was something special. Well animated, well written and for me as DC fan, full of the good kind of fanservice.It's the perception of the states that cartoons are only for kids (with exceptions) and that kids are dumb and can't understand greater plot lines and complex characters.

I haven't really watched anything DCAU since Paul Dini stopped doing the stuff. Justice League Unlimited was the last show I watched, but it sounds like Young Justice was pretty damn good. That Brave and the Bold Batman series they had turned me right off as well.

 

[rexor0717]

One thing this series should have never done was introduce shitty CGI mech suits. They were always ugly and never that interesting to watch fight.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

I haven't really watched anything DCAU since Paul Dini stopped doing the stuff. Justice League Unlimited was the last show I watched, but it sounds like Young Justice was pretty damn good. That Brave and the Bold Batman series they had turned me right off as well.

You better get on that Young Justice shit boy! Watch some Jem and the Holograms too. It deals with serious subjects on occasion.

 

[SoulUnison]

I just realized that Avatars have way longer than normal lifespans.

Aang only passed before Katara because he burned a lot of his life up staying in the Avatar State in the iceberg for 100 years.

Asami's going to grow old and die long before Korra does.

 

[Gravidee]

One thing that I found strange was the lack of air power during the raid on Republic City, and I'm not talking about the hummingbirds. I'm sure that Future Industries still has a bunch of planes in a hangar somewhere, so why weren't they used on Kuvira's forces?

 

[Nintendoga]

Gentlemen, after Korra, get yourself to Young Justice.

The good show where the only disappointment is that it never got it's third season and in contrast to Korra should've run longer.

God damn it I just binged on this show two weeks ago and loved it. Then the cliffhanger happened...

Thank god Season 4 was already in post production when 3 was airing. And they axed it off tv. Imagine if Korra ended on that S3 cliffhanger

 

[Kangi]

One thing this series should have never done was introduce shitty CGI

I agree.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I just realized that Avatars have way longer than normal lifespans.

Aang only passed before Katara because he burned a lot of his life up staying in the Avatar State in the iceberg for 100 years.

Asami's going to grow old and die long before Korra does.

Since when?

 

[Chariot]

I haven't really watched anything DCAU since Paul Dini stopped doing the stuff. Justice League Unlimited was the last show I watched, but it sounds like Young Justice was pretty damn good. That Brave and the Bold Batman series they had turned me right off as well.

Young Justice was written and created by Greg Weisman, like Gargoyles. And it was killed of despite being successful, like Gargoyles. It's also a serious series in it's core, opposed to gag series like Brave and the Bold. It also features real plots, including an amazing over spanning main plot.

God damn it I just binged on this show two weeks ago and loved it. Then the cliffhanger happened...

Thank god Season 4 was already in post production when 3 was airing. And they axed it off tv. Imagine if Korra ended on that S3 cliffhanger

It wasn't a cliffhanger like Young Justice. If it ended there, it would at least be a bitter sweet ending and quite depressing. But it could ended there. Young Justice just teased something we will probably never see :,(

 

[Sheroking]

Young Justice is so Avatar inspired I was shocked they weren't made by the same creators.

Spoiler

Still not as good as TAS

 

[TangerineCloud]

Oh shit they gave Young Justice proper animation, looks nice. I was traumatized by Teen Titans go animation and just thought they cheeped out on Young Justice, looks worth watching.

That's an understatement. The animation in Young Justice is real goddamn good. It can't quite match Legend of Korra at its best, but it's quite slick.

It was a great show (RIP ;~

EDIT: Dang, I think it's time for a re-watch.

 

[Astral Dog]

Dont speak about Young Justice,please, it died too young.

 

[Omikaru]

Since when?

Kyoshi lived for over 200 years.

As far as we know, the Avatars whose deaths we know (Aang, Kyoshi, Roku, and Wan), Kyoshi is the only one to have lived out a natural lifespan and died not from external factors. Aang died because of the overuse of the Avatar state in the iceberg, Roku was killed by the volcano, and Wan seemed to die on the battlefield, though whether that was of old age or injuries is not clear.

There's no other evidence to support the longer age of Avatars, as far as I know, so I think the issue is still up in the air.

 

[JadedWriter]

Young Justice was written and created by Greg Weisman, like Gargoyles. And it was killed of despite being successful, like Gargoyles. It's also a serious series in it's core, opposed to gag series like Brave and the Bold. It also features real plots, including an amazing over spanning main plot.It wasn't a cliffhanger like Young Justice. If it ended there, it would at least be a bitter sweet ending and quite depressing. But it could ended there. Young Justice just teased something we will probably never see :,(

This might be what I watch over the weekend then sounds awesome then. Poor Greg Weisman shows, they just never last.

 

[SoulUnison]

Since when?

Since the original series.

Avatar Kyoshi was 250 years old when she passed, and apparently the extended lifespan is the norm, or they wouldn't have to explain why Aang died so "young."

 

[Astral Dog]

The more I think about it, the more the Korrasami at the end seems kind of out of nowhere. There wasn't really any exposition about how Asami has always been there for Korra or vice versa or anything.

Which brings me to one conclusion, that they professed their love for one another in those letters or something.

So beautiful. Zuckerman is the true hero of this show.

I still find Korra and Asami weird. Seeing them holding hands. Just the realization they are in love. But without like, any kind of plot before that to show that. It's so I dunno. I'm just going to assume that, off screen, they had plot we didn't get to see.

It makes more sense to me that way. Going from an entire plot where they never implied anything more then close friends. To a shot of them holding hands and going into the spirit world. There is just this big gap for me. But I'll just assume things happened off screen.

I think though, the fact that they were friends that close super close. Even though I feel that was kind of rushed in itself. But the fact that it existed, prior to them falling for each other. Actually gives it a bit more realism to how most romances are shown.

I kind of agree, but at the same time, its not worse than Makorra or Bolin and Opal, Makorra almost ruined the show on its own, the only other thing besides Korrasami was it, and Asami deserved a happy ending, so im glad they did it, its not like other things on Korra are not forced or rushed, unfortunately, especially if we are talking about romance plots.

Some conservative fans are hating on it though.

Edit: Only Varrick and Zhu Li were better imo, unless im forgetting someone else.

 

[Hamlet]

I get the impression that most of the people who preferred ATLA just kinda... stopped watching.

EDIT: Which I guess isn't too suprising, as Korra had some low lows.

Come on at least give a bit of context behind those numbers. Such as the move to a Friday night death time slot after Book 1 and the fact that for Book 3 marketing/adverting was almost non existent for the show.
According to Bryke the show still does really impressive numbers online.

 

[brickarts295]

Gentlemen, after Korra, get yourself to Young Justice.

The good show where the only disappointment is that it never got it's third season and in contrast to Korra should've run longer.

Got nothing else too watch for winter break, guess it's time to give this a watch.

 

[NipplesAndToes23]

Since the original series.

Avatar Kyoshi was 250 years old when she passed, and apparently the extended lifespan is the norm, or they wouldn't have to explain why Aang died so "young."

That doesn't sound like it has anything to do with it, but just a reason to keep Korra closest enough in the future so that Last Airbender characters can still be in it.

Kyoshi is the only example we know of right? I'd think we would need to know more.

 

[TangerineCloud]

Come on at least give a bit of context behind those numbers. Such as the move to a Friday night death time slot after Book 1 and the fact that for Book 3 marketing/adverting was almost non existent for the show.
According to Bryke the show still does really impressive numbers online.

Fair enough. I didn't think they were necessary at the time, because I knew we had all discussed the causes for the ratings slump multiple times (especially when Book 3 moved shifted to online-only), but you're right.

EDIT: But even taking the various factors into account, I think my point still stands. The drop in production values between Books 3 and 4 was very noticeable. I doubt Nick would have slashed the budget if they were still satisfied with Korra's ratings.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

That doesn't sound like it has anything to do with it, but just a reason to keep Korra closest enough in the future so that Last Airbender characters can still be in it.

Kyoshi is the only example we know of right? I'd think we would need to know more.

Yea, with the amount of info given it's the exception rather than the rule. Maybe Kyoshi just lived hella long.

 

[CDiggity]

Oh well I shall await when Bryke take to tumblr and give us the "answers" we seek. We will find out that Korra is Su's dad (long story), Ghazan and Ming still hook up (longer story), and Korrasami doesn't last after the series is over (longest story).

 

[Icyflamez96]

Teen Titans go has a really good artstyle in my opinion compared to most cartoons of the same "genre" nowadays. Also the show is funny pretty funny from what I've seen. It's the only show me and my 4 year old nephew both enjoy watching. That and Sonic Boom, which is just okay, but still a lot better than Dora The Explorer and things like that lol

 

[Chariot]

This might be what I watch over the weekend then sounds awesome then. Poor Greg Weisman shows, they just never last.

Got nothing else too watch for winter break, guess it's time to give this a watch.

Yay! I don't know if there is a Young Justice OT, but I hope to read about your impressions somewhere.

Teen Titans go has a really good artstyle in my opinion compared to most cartoons of the same "genre" nowadays. Also the show is funny pretty funny from what I've seen. It's the only show me and my 4 year old nephew both enjoy watching. That and Sonic Boom, which is just okay, but still a lot better than Dora The Explorer and things like that lol

It's a good show, but I still refuse to watch it. I want Young Justice and Green Lantern TAS back. Fucking Cartoon Network is full of shit.

 

[Mononoke]

I kind of agree, but at the same time, its not worse than Makorra or Bolin and Opal, Makorra almost ruined the show on its own, the only other thing besides Korrasami was it, and Asami deserved a happy ending, so im glad they did it, its not like other things on Korra are not forced or rushed, unfortunately, especially if we are talking about romance plots.

Some conservative fans are hating on it though.

Edit: Only Varrick and Zhu Li were better imo, unless im forgetting someone else.

Yeah. Honestly, it's why I'm not tripping out too hard on it. I think my issue is that, they chose to end the show on it. They chose to try to mirror Aang and Katara which is lazy and kind of insulting (given that, their romance and plot arc was much more meaningful and fleshed out. So the series ending on that note made sense).

So the more I think about it, the more I'm okay with Korrasami. I think, it was poorly written. But I also think they had their hands tied behind their back from the network, and did what was possible. And as you said, it was no worse than the other romances in the show which were shit, and just kind of happened with no build up.

In that sense, this was probably better by accident LOL.

But I still resent them for ending the show on it, and trying to mirror ATLA. Was just lazy and was a bad closing scene.

 

[SpaceCadetKeon]

Oh god some of these articles I am reading about the finale are so dumb. They sweep flaws under the rug so easily cause "omg it is so progressive for a kidz show", it's like what happened with The Last of Us with the lesbian dlc, although that story and relationship was much much better.

Just as you easily dismiss one of the things in the finale that many view as a positive because you're fixated on the flaws.

 

[Emperor_Uriel]

Perhaps somewhat ironically, my 14-year-old tomboy daughter disliked the ending because she's tired of every strong female character in recent fiction ending up gay or bi.

I'm not really sure what to say, in all honesty.

 

[Conflict NZ]

So Mako is such a shitty guy that he turned two girls lesbian? Great, I hate that guy.

 

[JadedWriter]

Yay! I don't know if there is a Young Justice OT, but I hope to read about your impressions somewhere.It's a good show, but I still refuse to watch it. I want Young Justice and Green Lantern TAS back. Fucking Cartoon Network is full of shit.

I'll just post them right here. KorraGaf is a community.

 

[Kinvara]

Perhaps somewhat ironically, my 14-year-old tomboy daughter disliked the ending because she's tired of every strong female character in recent fiction ending up gay or bi.

I'm not really sure what to say, in all honesty.

Who????

 

[Chariot]

Perhaps somewhat ironically, my 14-year-old tomboy daughter disliked the ending because she's tired of every strong female character in recent fiction ending up gay or bi.

I'm not really sure what to say, in all honesty.

Well, give her Wakfu and Young Justice.

I'll just post them right here. KorraGaf is a community.

Whooo!

 

[Mononoke]

Who????

I still think most people that didn't like it, don't like it because Korra and Asami were established early on as straight. And while sexual preference can be discovered at a later time (or people can be bisexual), the fact that they couldn't have a plot to establish that change in sexual preference makes it feel forced.

It wouldn't have been as clunky if Korra or Asami had never had a romance at all. Because by default, we can't assume to know a characters sexual preference. It's pretty much up in the air until it's established.

I think Hollywood also has a problem with having same gender people being close friends. Especially female characters. And when Hollywood does have "friendship", they usually make it a comedy or something ridiculous. They don't know how to show the deep bonds between people as friends.

So I'm assuming some think that this ending was basically another case of that.

I'm kind of baffled by the idea that, all strong female characters are gay or bi though. Where are these characters? It's pretty rare to have gay romance in TV shows, let alone kids shows. SO....yeah.

I still think though, every romance in this show just kind of happened. There was no build up. So the fact that they slowly built a relationship between Korra and Asami that was close, that to me is more realistic to anything that was on the show. Stepping back and looking at it in a larger context, I actually think it's the best romance the show had. Do I wish they could have done more? Sure.

But I do get why some people think it came out of left field, or doesn't make sense.

 

[Hamlet]

Vanity Fair article on the finale - How a Nickelodeon Cartoon Became One of the Most Powerful, Subversive Shows of 2014

So that’s how The Legend of Korra, a Nickelodeon cartoon, changed the face of TV last night. Call it groundbreaking, call it earth-bending, call it whatever you like. It was great television.

 

[Mononoke]

Vanity Fair article on the finale - How a Nickelodeon Cartoon Became One of the Most Powerful, Subversive Shows of 2014

Yeah sure. The finale itself was mediocre and pretty poor. But the implications of a gay romance for a main character on a kids show, was certainly ground breaking. It should be applauded. I just hope Bryke were genuine with this, and weren't just doing it for shipper fuel.

But that's not something we could ever know. I'm going to say it was genuine, because the slow build up of their friendship and becoming super close, feels to me like, it was their way of telling their romance, but doing so in a way that they could get around the censors and network push back.

 

[Icyflamez96]

Call it earthbending lol

 

[Chariot]

Yeah sure. The finale itself was mediocre and pretty poor. But the implications of a gay romance for a main character on a kids show, was certainly ground breaking.

I think the fight was quite good since it gave everyone a time to shine.

 

[Trey]

"Mediocre and pretty poor. 7/10"

 

[Emperor_Uriel]

Who????

I'm not entirely sure either. I know she was disappointed with Ellie from TLOU for the same reason. I think she's just unlucky because every character that she identifies with ends up reinforcing the stereotypes that she hears at school.

I think that what we're seeing is a situation where the types of progressive writers who would focus on creating interesting female characters are the same folks who would be interested in creating great LGBT characters, so they often just kill two birds with one stone.

 

[Mononoke]

I think the fight was quite good since it gave everyone a time to shine.

Yeah, the use of all the characters was fun. But the actual threat itself, like had no emotional weight or reason to happen. So it was all kind of aimless and without tension/emotion or meaning.

But I do think the way they used all the side characters in the battle was a lot fun. I do think though, if you really think about it, like the side characters really didn't have any character moments. Like we didn't really get closure on them. So it's a weird finale too in that sense.

 

[aly]

Perhaps somewhat ironically, my 14-year-old tomboy daughter disliked the ending because she's tired of every strong female character in recent fiction ending up gay or bi.

I'm not really sure what to say, in all honesty.

You know I do see her point. The tomboy and girly girl lesbian pairing or how a strong woman is very obviously gay stereotype. I'm not sure what you could say about that. I personally think that part of Korra's initial appeal too was that she was tom boyish but that did'nt make her any less girly either. She did'nt seem to mind wearing dress or boys or any of the assumptions/stereotypes that people make about more I guess masculine women.

 

[Mononoke]

You know I do see her point. The tomboy and girly girl lesbian pairing or how a strong woman is very obviously gay stereotype. I'm not sure what you could say about that. I personally think that part of Korra's initial appeal too was that she was tom boyish but that did'nt make her any less girly either. She did'nt seem to mind wearing dress or boys or any of the assumptions/stereotypes that people make about more I guess masculine women.

I could also see her point, if she felt it was forced. Because as I said already, the show established that Korra and Asami were straight. And again, while people can be bisexual or realize their preference later in life, purely from a story perspective it can be kind of strange without that plot to show them shifting their preference.