Icyflamez96
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Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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We have a tendency to dehumanize those who commit unspeakable acts of violence and cruelty. When in reality, they are no different than ourselves.
Korra accepted the uncomfortable truth that the people she had to fight were human beings who had the same hopes, fears, and insecurities that she herself did.
Maybe it's just me but that is message that I got from the finale.
Korra accepted the uncomfortable truth that the people she had to fight were human beings who had the same hopes, fears, and insecurities that she herself did.
Maybe it's just me but that is message that I got from the finale.
Astral Dog
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Korra didnt get any character development on Season 1, everything was handed to her in a silver platter, at most she learned to be a bit more patient, or do you mean something else?
SamuelSupreme
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Just finished it....wow...that was such a great closer for a fantastic series. It's a shame such a great franchise has been put to rest but wow...that was a superb finish. Korra's journey as an Avatar has been rocky at times, but seeing her fully realized in the end. That was just perfect.
Also I haven't gone through the thread but I can't be the only one that was pleased that Korra and Asami became a couple....A powerful ethnic lesbian character was done the right way in a children's show no less....Wow.. Just bravo!
Also I haven't gone through the thread but I can't be the only one that was pleased that Korra and Asami became a couple....A powerful ethnic lesbian character was done the right way in a children's show no less....Wow.. Just bravo!
Roku admits that he foresaw what was going to happen but lacked the mental fortitude to find a solution since he got complacent at the end of his life.
I think that's what they were going for in that finale, and by extension, linking both Korra and Kuvira's characterizations together. My issue with that is Korra's development was clunky this season.
Ah well. I still really love this finale.
At the very least I think you could say Korra learned to listen to what others had to say and realized that people were there to support her at the end of season 1. Season 2 dumped all that.
googleplex
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This is actual not true.
Here's the thing.
The first episode set my expectations for something serious.
What followed was some horrible world-building where I felt that everything was utterly unrealistic. A society of floating scavengers IMHO will look totally different from the happy go lucky commune that we were shown.
Basically I remember always annoyed by something when watching that show.
You know for all the shit that this show DESERVES to get when it comes to its story and characters, it is nice to see a post like this every once in awhile just to break up the figgin' monotony of frustration and disappointment.
Shouta
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Here's the thing.
The first episode set my expectations for something serious.
What followed was some horrible world-building where I felt that everything was utterly unrealistic. A society of floating scavengers IMHO will look totally different from the happy go lucky commune that we were shown.
Basically I remember always annoyed by something when watching that show.
You just like being annoyed, eh? ;P
Can't say I don't mind shouting at stuff sometimes.
googleplex
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No most relationship are built on mutual attraction. The whole "I suddenly realized that I'm in love with my friend whom up until this point I've never been attracted to" only happens in shitty romantic comedies.
SamuelSupreme
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Wat? You guys didn't like it?....
Joe Prodigy
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Amazing finale! I definitely loved it. Can't believe they went ahead with KorrAsami at the end! So great.
I'm going to miss it.
I'm going to miss it.
i'm not exactly sure that differs from all the other relationships in this show (romantic or otherwise). plus it's not really a rebuttal to my assertion regarding a general lack of romantic history prior to dating. in fact you seem to agree with that assertion despite implying the opposite?
bearythebear
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Great ending to the series. Not quite as epic as the original ATLA, but that was a different beast altogether. God, I can't wait for the next thing the creators do. Hopefully it's on Netflix or something.
So what does the spirit portals opening up mean?
So what does the spirit portals opening up mean?
Seems about 50/50 so far on here I would say. Maybe we should have a poll or something ha.
I like the finale well enough as a season finale, but not as a series finale. Which has prompted me to look back on the series as a whole, which has been largely... lackluster. This season included.
Enjoyable, mind you. But lackluster.
Holding off on getting into a romantic relationship =/= not being attracted to each other.
Astral Dog
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That Korra and Asami will have many adventures on the Spirit World we will never see!
Maybe Republic City becomes the official, "Spirit City" maybe that is what the series is about, what Aang and Zuko did with RC was bad
That's because I am always hopeful that "well, this episode we'll finally get the good stuff".
But in any case this is a Korra thread so I'll shut up.
googleplex
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My problem with Korrasami is like it was born from some broken ass bechdel test.
"Hey there are two female characters that are close friends and actually manage to have meaningful conversations that doesn't involve Boys or dating? Obviously its because their in love with each other and totally lesbians now."
There was nothing in any of their interactions with each other through out the show to point to anything romantic between these two characters. That last scene was just pandering to vocal part of the fan base.
It's the same type of craziness that has turn the Adventure time fan base into a cesspool.
"Hey there are two female characters that are close friends and actually manage to have meaningful conversations that doesn't involve Boys or dating? Obviously its because their in love with each other and totally lesbians now."
There was nothing in any of their interactions with each other through out the show to point to anything romantic between these two characters. That last scene was just pandering to vocal part of the fan base.
It's the same type of craziness that has turn the Adventure time fan base into a cesspool.
The Cool One
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its really over guys.......
i want another season
i want another season
I loved it, personally.
But when it comes to this show, take my opinion with a grain of salt and all...
starwarsfan541
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Me too, I loved the series and finale. At least the comics are still being made
googleplex
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You're not the only one. I loved it too!
IMO, Korra was a better, more interesting and by far a more successful Avatar then Aang was . But Aang had the better supporting cast and much more "black and white" dilemmas, and a longer show to flesh out the story and world.
I like both shows equally.
Shouta
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Actually, talking about Gargantia makes me want to make a thread talking about it. I just watched the 1 hour OVA that was released recently too and it's so good. I may do a thread this weekend. =P
Astral Dog
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Yes, Republic is the TRUE "villain" of the series, what was what made Yakone, Tarrlock, and Amon the means to rise to power? it was Aang and Zuko stupid political system, What is the thing, that Vaatu wants to destroy at first? he went to Republic City, probably because there was an inbalance there.
Why Zaheer wanted to change the world? to stop corrupt politicians like Raiko and Tarrlock to rise to power, he says this to Korra.
What was Kuvira after? the lands that were stolen to her people by the Avatar, the city with the huge, egocentric Aang staue, when Kuvira destroyed the city, Korra was finally free, the spirits could be happy and another portal was discovered beneath.
You could tell all the villains hated Republic City
Why Zaheer wanted to change the world? to stop corrupt politicians like Raiko and Tarrlock to rise to power, he says this to Korra.
What was Kuvira after? the lands that were stolen to her people by the Avatar, the city with the huge, egocentric Aang staue, when Kuvira destroyed the city, Korra was finally free, the spirits could be happy and another portal was discovered beneath.
You could tell all the villains hated Republic City
Dice//
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Given that I liked Korra's half-date with BOLIN better than the ENTIRETY of her saga with Mako... I kinda just wish the series focused on two "girlfriends" (in whatever sense) and built on that key relationship than sort-of switch 'besties' mid-series. As sweet and progressive as it was (and I *loved* it for that), I agree, it still kinda felt poorly developed. Varrick and Zhu Li didn't have much build-up either, but it was a lot more interesting to watch (due to fun use of slapstick).
I've heard people say that casting a black man as the lead in Star Wars VII is pandering.
Making Ms. Marvel a Muslim Pakistani-American is pandering.
So having Korra and Asami be in a romantic relationship is pandering.
You know what?
Its about damn time content creators started pandering to groups other than straight white dudebros.
Pegosaurus
Banned
pretty great finale, in that dress Korra was best girl.
I'm gonna miss the show, and I wish they would continue it some way, but at least now I have a reason to start reading the comics.
honestly though I wasn't a fan of
. I wouldn't have minded if there was some real build up to it, but it seemed forced and fan servicey to me.
I'm gonna miss the show, and I wish they would continue it some way, but at least now I have a reason to start reading the comics.
honestly though I wasn't a fan of
how they threw Korrasami in at the end
bearythebear
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Given that I liked Korra's half-date with BOLIN better than the ENTIRETY of her saga with Mako... I kinda just wish the series focused on two "girlfriends" (in whatever sense) and built on that key relationship than sort-of switch 'besties' mid-series. As sweet and progressive as it was (and I *loved* it for that), I agree, it still kinda felt poorly developed. Varrick and Zhu Li didn't have much build-up either, but it was a lot more interesting to watch (due to fun use of slapstick).
All the "shipping" nonsense that fans get into, is so fucking lame... That being said, Korra and Asami built up a really strong friendship over the last two seasons. Not every strong relationship has to be either romantic though, so the romantic connection between them felt a bit too cliche. But I don't think it was unearned.
With Korrasami stuff I think it's key for them to have shown them being friends first. Because if they did the same hing but without any of the other scenes from the season, that would be pandering. Could have it be done better? Sure, but it isn't really bad, just handled in a weird way. Two good friends taking a leap of faith after getting closer is a fairly realistic thing. It also isn't insulting the fan base by ending wih "omg I've always loved you".
Darryl M R
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Any clue where the creators are going after this? I would love to follow and support them on their next show.
Dice//
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I'm not really a shipper. I'm pretty boring, 90% of the time I just go 'yay' for the canon couples than anything else.
I think if the series maybe spent ONE episode to some 'adventure' Korra and Asami had (even plot-related where they gotta go do some "plot thing" together the way Katara and Zuko had that 'one episode') then I'd buy it more than simply doing something viewers would love than for the character's own progressions.
In fairness, I do get the feeling Bryke panders to the audience a lot in general. I have no problem with Korra and Asami happening, it's just the way it happened. There was essentially no build up apart from their letters at the very beginning of the season, and they basically haven't spoken to each other since. And I do think it was just done because Korrasami is popular within the fanbase, as so many other changes have been as each season attempted to 'fix' some problem the last had.
I would have been happy to see them progress from friends to lovers. But without the writing justifying the rather intense commitment of having Asami apparently drop everything, including her company, to go on a road trip with korra, to the out of nowhere affection such as hand holding, it is rather sudden and emotionally unearned with the audience.
That said, it's not really worse than the other stuff, and it's good it happened if only for the LGBT representation.
googleplex
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Terrible analogies and has nothing to do with what I posted. And a 'white dude bro' is something I'm not and I resent you implications with that.
Shoehorning in a Korra and Asami relationship at the last minute with absolutely no development is pandering of the worst kind. It would be like if Zuko and katara where suddenly in a romantic relationship at the end of the last Airbender.
It makes no sense given what we as the audience have been shown of these characters.
bearythebear
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Sorry, I wasn't assuming you were a shipper. Just in general, that stuff can get annoying.
Yeah, they could have developed it a bit better, but I guess I never really cared about Korra's romantic life, so I'm fine with it. Besides, it seems like the romance is just getting started between them.
I don't think those actually fit though. Putting your characters in a relationship without showing that type of attraction does really come off as pandering especially with how close the creators seem to their fanbase. You don't have to be a "straight white dudebro" to not be a fan of that.
bishopcruz
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Yeah, it seems that at the end the intention was that they are kinda starting out on their relationship, not at the OMG true love portion yet.
Also, apparently DiMartino tweeted a link to the Vanity Fair article talking about how the show was subversive. Pretty much confirmation for any holdouts.
Admiral Woofington
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Yeah I didn't like it due to it being horribly written and put in there to please shipping fans.
a secret-boss
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I thought that with the finale the creators were gonna close the avatar and make Korra the final avatar.
Finale wasn't bad. I was expecting for a close of the series.
At least I'm happy with Korra and Asami pairing
Finale wasn't bad. I was expecting for a close of the series.
At least I'm happy with Korra and Asami pairing
The strongest believers among us called it back when Asami was teaching Korra how to drive.
Admiral Woofington
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I'm not a professional writer nor creative enough, but I can still criticize what I perceive as a shoe-horn. If somebody isn't experienced on building bridges can he/she not criticize a shoddy bridge?
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