JadedWriter
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WRYYYYY!!!!! Araki draws his characters swole as fuck for the first couple of parts. Jonathan looks like he was cobbled out of granite.
Legend of Korra Book 4: Balance |OT| A Feast of Crows
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WRYYYYY!!!!! Araki draws his characters swole as fuck for the first couple of parts. Jonathan looks like he was cobbled out of granite.
That bad huh. Guess I should temper my expectations before I see it next week, when it finally comes out here.
According to the wiki Lin is 54 and Suyin is 48.
For those still in doubt over whether Korrasami is a thing or not, observe this image. Within the context of this show, the way in which characters have held hands the way Korra and Asami did was reserved for those in romantic relationships. I think it's pretty obvious now that this was intended.
JadedWriter
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Part 3 is pretty crazy with it's powers and based on what I think you told me Part 4 is nuts and it get weirder afterwards. I read one guy
transforms into a raptor
Zaheer really should've bought a portable step ladder from Cabbage Corp.For those still in doubt over whether Korrasami is a thing or not, observe this image. Within the context of this show, the way in which characters have held hands the way Korra and Asami did was reserved for those in romantic relationships. I think it's pretty obvious now that this was intended.
Is he actually short? I was under the impression that P'li was just really tall.
Mr Fahrenheit
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I just rewatched the ending since I need to experience true suffering to learn compassion. It didn't work that well. I was able to appreciate the Korrasami moment more since I wasn't blinded by my initial rage from realizing this is how they were closing the show, on shipping.
I still say it would have been better if they did the Korrasami thing first then ended it with Tenzin. They lose their spirit portal shot, but that's the price the have to pay.
I still say it would have been better if they did the Korrasami thing first then ended it with Tenzin. They lose their spirit portal shot, but that's the price the have to pay.
That's part 7
I do wish more series would use a rotating cast like JoJo and Pokémon Adventures.
Then again, one Part of JoJo outside of Part 1/2 = a whole Series of Avatar and Korra.
Maybe so. Either way, I love that shot of them holding hands over the rest due to the height differences. Usually a lot of people would expect the dude to be taller, but nope.
Just like my grandpa, Zaheer likes them taller.
No kidding. It's almost amazing how two series I cared about managed to crap themselves so hard. Sometimes I feel like its better to pretend they the sequels/prequels never existed. I actually feel bad for talking smack about Naruto's ending now.
JadedWriter
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So Part 3 really isn't the longest is it? Cause this one is LONG I like it, but damn. I love how they draw Jotaro's hat/hair. They didn't even bother to define a border for it, cracks me up a little every time.
You can always have this at least:
There's no way they would've gone that fair on stream/tv, just no way man.
Why have that when you can have this?
How's this?
And here's a GAF ball version just because
Part 4 and 7 are longer.
Part 3 is going to be around 52 or 54 EP. About the same length of Korra. Each part will probably at least match that or be longer.
JadedWriter
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I'm really glad they're not trying to rush through the material either. It's slower than Part 2, but it's a lot of fun.
If the Hobbit wasn't going off of HFR and was R instead of PG13, I would have enjoyed it a lot more than I did. There are just too many times where the sets and CGI are almost insulting. It's called Battle of the five armies yet it really doesn't even feel like a battle yet alone five fucking armies. It's just some poor cgi guys fighting with no tension or climax. The rest of the movie is trying to get me to care for people who have no proper characterization and spends way too much time on people who aren't even important to the movie. The fights are choreographed extremely poorly, and the story it's way too mumbled. I really wanted to like this one too. 
Slamtastic
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The true JoJo hasn't been animated yet.
True, but I will be the first to say that entire episodes can be cut or stand users could be combined in a single episode. But on the flip side we wouldn't get half the character moments and characterization from the cast. (Something missing from a lot of other series) That we do.
Some people might be opposed to the Stand of the Week, but it really lets all the characters shine in their own way every once in awhile.
You can always have this at least:
There's no way they would've gone that fair on stream/tv, just no way man.
Don't cut it off before it gets good.
God bless slash fans.
I still think you guys are crazy and are being way too harsh on Season 1. Season 1 definitely had flaws. When it came out, I had a lot criticisms for it. The ending itself was a train wreck of epic proportions. The pro bending stuff was fun for like a moment, but when on way too long.
Some of the one off plot, felt like hitting the brakes when the Amon plot was more interesting. The characters themselves were kind of rough, especially their relationships. So it had issues. But if you go back and re-watch Book 1 (which I encourage you to do)...it had a main plot that was interesting. That had a lot tension and emotion. It was a plot that mattered and it thrust the season forward.
The best thing I can say for Book 4, is that the action/set pieces were much better. By then, the creators had gotten better at action. And Book 4 had better action overall. But man, just episode to episode, Book 4 was dull and just a boring slog. It was an entire season that spun its wheels, and really tried to fill time by stretching out half baked plots. Even Korra's arc was really oddly paced and frustrating.
I just look at the two side by side, and outside the finale of Book 4 crushing Book 1s, I honestly think Book 1 was superior. It just was. It had a far more interesting central plot driving the season. Episodes had more tension (because of that plot). We can argue all day about how Amon is a fraud and how the season fell apart. We can talk about how boring pro bending was.
All of that is true. But honestly, Book 4 was really a season that didn't justify its existence. It was legit just the writers trying to stretch out a half baked plot across 13 episodes. When you get down to it, the story really ended with Zaheer and Book 3. Book 4 was just Korra dealing with all the abuse she had taken in 3 seasons. Had she not been broken, she could have dealt with Kuvira in an instant. And because the writers never had any intention of going into the political implications of the earth Kingdom's disarray, it didn't matter if Korra just took Kuvira out. As far as the writers are concerned, her army would have fell apart. In terms of the chaotic nature of the land, it would have just sorted itself out. They were not interested in that story. So yes, it would have been as simple as Korra just taking Kuvira out. Which she could have. There was nothing complex about it. This was a story about Korra being broken, and thus a half baked conflict getting out of control because she wasn't healthy enough to deal with it.
So really the season was just kind of Korra getting over shit. And once she did, it was just a casual problem for her. And even THAT would all be fine, if the Korra plot was done in an interesting and emotional way. But it really wasn't. Korras resolution to her over coming her demons was scattershot, and wasn't really followed through. It didn't conclude or tie into that arc. And her arc in Book 4 itself was really aimless.
How you guys prefer that to Book 1....
Yeah you guys lost me there.
And honestly, I don't get why people get so mad about Amon, but are giving Kuvira a pass. Amon had an interesting design. He was cool to look at, and was menacing. Even if he was OP, he had presence and dominated the room when he entered. He had atmosphere. He had a really cool plot backing him (even if we later find out, he was a fraud, for most of the season you don't know that). So Amon himself is someone you are into, and are curious about the conflict he's pushing.
Also, while Amon's backplot was pure shit, it at least was some motivation. It wasn't like the worst backstory ever. It was just, the way the backstory was told in 20 min was awful. And it was awful because it undermined the whole movement underneath him which we came to find interesting. That is what sucked. But he felt like a much more fleshed out character then Kuvira, who was just a raging psychopath that wanted power, but oh wait, in 2 min she's actually just a scared girl that wanted to protect herself (but I always get what I want, and slave labor camps and eugenics). Yahhhhh.
Some of the one off plot, felt like hitting the brakes when the Amon plot was more interesting. The characters themselves were kind of rough, especially their relationships. So it had issues. But if you go back and re-watch Book 1 (which I encourage you to do)...it had a main plot that was interesting. That had a lot tension and emotion. It was a plot that mattered and it thrust the season forward.
The best thing I can say for Book 4, is that the action/set pieces were much better. By then, the creators had gotten better at action. And Book 4 had better action overall. But man, just episode to episode, Book 4 was dull and just a boring slog. It was an entire season that spun its wheels, and really tried to fill time by stretching out half baked plots. Even Korra's arc was really oddly paced and frustrating.
I just look at the two side by side, and outside the finale of Book 4 crushing Book 1s, I honestly think Book 1 was superior. It just was. It had a far more interesting central plot driving the season. Episodes had more tension (because of that plot). We can argue all day about how Amon is a fraud and how the season fell apart. We can talk about how boring pro bending was.
All of that is true. But honestly, Book 4 was really a season that didn't justify its existence. It was legit just the writers trying to stretch out a half baked plot across 13 episodes. When you get down to it, the story really ended with Zaheer and Book 3. Book 4 was just Korra dealing with all the abuse she had taken in 3 seasons. Had she not been broken, she could have dealt with Kuvira in an instant. And because the writers never had any intention of going into the political implications of the earth Kingdom's disarray, it didn't matter if Korra just took Kuvira out. As far as the writers are concerned, her army would have fell apart. In terms of the chaotic nature of the land, it would have just sorted itself out. They were not interested in that story. So yes, it would have been as simple as Korra just taking Kuvira out. Which she could have. There was nothing complex about it. This was a story about Korra being broken, and thus a half baked conflict getting out of control because she wasn't healthy enough to deal with it.
So really the season was just kind of Korra getting over shit. And once she did, it was just a casual problem for her. And even THAT would all be fine, if the Korra plot was done in an interesting and emotional way. But it really wasn't. Korras resolution to her over coming her demons was scattershot, and wasn't really followed through. It didn't conclude or tie into that arc. And her arc in Book 4 itself was really aimless.
How you guys prefer that to Book 1....
Yeah you guys lost me there.
And honestly, I don't get why people get so mad about Amon, but are giving Kuvira a pass. Amon had an interesting design. He was cool to look at, and was menacing. Even if he was OP, he had presence and dominated the room when he entered. He had atmosphere. He had a really cool plot backing him (even if we later find out, he was a fraud, for most of the season you don't know that). So Amon himself is someone you are into, and are curious about the conflict he's pushing.
Also, while Amon's backplot was pure shit, it at least was some motivation. It wasn't like the worst backstory ever. It was just, the way the backstory was told in 20 min was awful. And it was awful because it undermined the whole movement underneath him which we came to find interesting. That is what sucked. But he felt like a much more fleshed out character then Kuvira, who was just a raging psychopath that wanted power, but oh wait, in 2 min she's actually just a scared girl that wanted to protect herself (but I always get what I want, and slave labor camps and eugenics). Yahhhhh.
That is the "Nick" version. ie. Having the kiss shown quickly and panning out quickly lol. I think that was a proposal for what Bryke could have done. The picture you linked it obviously way better. But wouldn't have made it past the censors and network pushback.
JadedWriter
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Every character gets their time to shine with certain stands so I really don't mind. Some stands don't need two eps, but Steely Dan needed that second ep. Once you see all the shit he pulled you really can see he deserved that epic ass beating he got. Even near death Polnareff and Kakyoin are bros not too serious to avoid a fun ass sign language joke while their submarine is sinking.
m_shortpants
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I've said it multiple times, but 95% of book one was excellent. Only the first 20% or so of Book 4 was really good IMO
Yep. Pretty much. I'm just really struggling to understand those saying Book 4 was superior. I really think Book 4 like in a larger context, was quite shit. I think each episode had competent writing and pacing. And so in terms of like an episode to episode entertainment, it was solid.
But in terms of the main plot, and just what it was trying to tell, it was a boring slog. It didn't justify it's 13 episodes.
I really wish Korra had more moments like that.
I really get the sense that the Stardust Crusaders are friends, even if they only spent a few weeks with one another.
Despite Korra group having nearly 7 months, they just felt like a few people that happen to know one another.
Is that show 13 episodes? ATLA allowed characters to shine, because of that 22 episode journey format
And yeah, the most baffling thing about this show was Korra's team. I really never understood why they were close friends. Why they were even considered a team. They spent a lot of time apart in Books 2-3 and even 4 for that matter. So those saying Korrasami was well done and fleshed out, meh. Even Korra + Asami's friendship never made sense to me in Book 3. And it surely wasn't transitioned into well. It was clunky as hell.
I mean, if you want to argue the relationship was well done from the point that they wanted us to believe they were best friends. I won't argue that. But I look at the relationship in the larger context of the series and it really was sloppy.
And_Gignac
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Some people may call it "forced fanservice" but, for me, Asami and Korra´s relationship was amazingly and beautifully set. There was no need to be up front and hyper explicit about their growing romantic love for each other. Thats not how happens in real life either.
The clues were there, the setting up was pretty evident. I think people who say their interactions (Korra´s and Asami´s) were just like "anything you would see from any girl friends" are missing the point and letting themselves being tainted by historic views that have always put lesbians (in this case, bisexual women) in obscurity. I can say that I was too, blinded by this.
Even when women are sexually objectified they are also desexualized, in the sense that any affective and physical interaction between two of them is immediately caged as "friendship", when it could totally and objectively being seen as romantic / sexual love.
Probably this wasnt Bryke´s intent, but whatever. The result is there and it was, even if not intentional, just beautiful.
The clues were there, the setting up was pretty evident. I think people who say their interactions (Korra´s and Asami´s) were just like "anything you would see from any girl friends" are missing the point and letting themselves being tainted by historic views that have always put lesbians (in this case, bisexual women) in obscurity. I can say that I was too, blinded by this.
Even when women are sexually objectified they are also desexualized, in the sense that any affective and physical interaction between two of them is immediately caged as "friendship", when it could totally and objectively being seen as romantic / sexual love.
Probably this wasnt Bryke´s intent, but whatever. The result is there and it was, even if not intentional, just beautiful.
JadedWriter
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Jojo's Bizarre Adventure is one long as fuck manga. Each part has what seems like it can fill 50 eps with parts one and 2 being the shortest. Part 1 and 2 takes up a combined 26 eps, but even with the two shorter parts you can see that the people together are actually pretty believable friends. With the mentioned Part 3 it's pretty long, but it's easy to see that they do care for each other though sometimes you're like what the fuck is going on when one dude is in trouble and the other group is just chilling out in a hotel room trying to figure out why he's late for a meeting. I'd highly recommend the show because it's fun and weird with some entertaining villains.
Atraveller
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Finally caught up to the thread, didn't know Korrasami would cause such a big fuss. Can't wait to join you all in the community thread.
Psh, shes a rich priv-lord. Ain't no problems she got that can't be fixed with $$$$$ :^)
Shipping is always the stuff of intensity.
Part 3 of JoJo is the same length as Korra. And we are only halfway through, yet the group has showed more chemistry than Korra's group in the full 50+
That being said, even if Korra is cut up in 13 EP. There are still the same characters, there is no excuse for the lack of group dynamic even if what they face changes from season to season.
Another series that did this was the first 13 EP of dragon ball. Which was the first Story arc. Yet it introduced the world, character motivations and had all the characters have a moment in the spotlight.
I still think Asami becoming friends with Korra felt clunky. Like I still don't get why Asami never reacted to the abuses and betrayals of her friends. Or how any of these people stayed together as a supposed "team"...or as friends, given how much time they spent apart. And how much issues they had going on.
I always felt that book 3 korra and Asami was kind of clunky. Actually, when they had it revealed in Book 4 that Korra only sent Asami a letter, I actually kind of thought that came off forced. Just because I didn't see that best friendship really develop in Book 3. We didn't actually see that. We saw the very beginning of a friendship. But for most of Book 3 Korra was off on her own. So that jump from Asami and Korra now starting to shoot to shit, to becoming intimate. That was kind of jarring to me. It took me back.
I think it's more of the fact that it was the only thing that can sum up the finale and season
Well I mean, the finale had no plot. And it had nothing to say about the overall themes of the show. It didn't have any character resolution or conclusions really, so really..what else is there to talk about?
I mean the show pretty much ended with them being together (even if that relationship wasn't a big part of the series). Was a truly baffling ending by all accounts.
I don't think Zaheer is short, I think it's because P'li is huge, near 7 foot I've read somewhere. At 6"1, I'm taller than most men, but P'li would make me look like Peter Dinklage.
Mr Fahrenheit
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I just didn't like how it was the note the show ended on. I'm glad it happened, but their romance wasn't like Aang and Katara's that was a major thing throughout the show, it wasn't worth being the parting sentiment. It was thematically clumsy.
It's deadHas there been any hint at all about some sort of continuation of this universe? A new show? New comics? Anything, any hint at all?
I'm not ready to let go.
why was the season even called Balance to begin with
Has there been any hint at all about some sort of continuation of this universe? A new show? New comics? Anything, any hint at all?
I'm not ready to let go.
Still got ATLA comics coming out. But for Korra that's pretty much it and we're probably not going to get a new series for quite a while.
We still have to hold out hope for those soundtracks, Hamlet.
I'd have no issue with revisiting Korra. It can be done well but at this point I just don't trust Bryke at all.
JadedWriter
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The shorter Part 1 and 2 did the friendship and villains better than Korra. You actually believe Joseph and Caesar became friends in Part 2.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Is this okay
I also made a Mako avatar if anyone wants it
I also made a Mako avatar if anyone wants it
No idea. I think it was to imply that, Korra needed to find balance to her anger? Like she was a hot headed person. But she needed to balance that out with uh yeah fuck if you ask me.
Korra had a plot about her struggling to accept herself and what her purpose of Avatar was. Her own relevancy. That is what it started out as. But then it started to get aimless, and was all over the place. And then the season ended with "I needed to suffer for compassion". Which like, had no tie in with her arc. It was truly bizarre.
And that contrived Kuvira motivation witch was dished out in 1 min, then also became Korra's resolution. Truly truly baffling.
I argued the Season should have been called "Acceptance".
At least that would have made some sense. Korra accepting her legacy up to that point. Even if she failed a lot, accepting the things that resulted from her actions (the good). And accepting that she is the avatar and is going to move on and do more with it, regardless what people think.
But even that didn't really like materialize, in a meaningful way (not in terms of an arc building up to it and having that pay off).
m_shortpants
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I still find it kind of weird and slightly out of character that Korra and Asami would just elope and bounce out of there without even inviting Mako or Bolin. Aren't they supposed to be friends? Even if they're going on a romantic getaway it sort of seemed like they ditched everyone haha.
Yep still holding out for those soundtracks. I'll burn a Korra effigy while praising Nick as the almighty god if that's want they want in order to get those soundtracks out.
Icyflamez96
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more like acquaintances when in conflict
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