My first time watching Cowboy Bebop

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Yes, a LTTP Cowboy Bebop thread! You ain't seen nothing yet, OP so keep us updated. And yes, Ein is the single cutest dog ever to grace the face of anime.
 
Burning question: why did you buy it in the first place without being sure that you wanted to watch it? Do you buy things from amazon and then flip them for profit?

After always hearing about how awesome the show was, it releasing on Blu-Ray just made sense for me to watch it. The only reason I thought about selling it was because my credit card bill is higher than usual this month. That's it though. If I buy something its for me, or someone else if its a gift.

As for Space Dandy, I caught that when it first aired and I really enjoyed it. I have not seen Samurai Champloo but again, heard great things about it too. Is it done by the same people as Bebop?
 
I watched this show when I was like 12 in 2002 and again when I was 16 in 2006. I think it might be time for a third re-watch but I'm honestly surprised there's people who still haven't seen it to this day.

heard great things about it too. Is it done by the same people as Bebop?

Same director, not as good as Bebop but Battlecry>Tank, easily.
 
The mix of the soundtrack with the fights = amazing. It also had a great English dub which is rare nowadays. Animation still holds up today.
 
I revisit this series at least once a year.

It's got my favorite soundtrack and quite possibly my favorite character in Ed.

To some people it's overrated, and that's your opinion, but I can't agree. It's pretty much perfection in my eyes.

There's only two other animes that I enjoyed as much as this one the first time around and one is Samurai Champloo. The other one is not relative to this thread, so it shall not be named.
 
Bull
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Pretty much 90% of the show is fluff, with no relevance what so ever to the "main plot" (and I use that term loosely) of Spike vs Vicious.

Is the show pretty? Hell yes.
Is the show well voiced? Dubs and Subs.
Is the show well directed? Of course, it's Watanabe.
Does the music work? Anyone arguing 'no' has an uphill fight.

Is the show coherent? Meh, not really.
Is the show well written? If you like episodic series then yes.

Is the show over rated? Abso-fucking-lutely.

Samurai Champloo is pretty much superior to Cowboy Bebop in every way except one.

Ein > Momo

If you think the fluff is just fluff and is being thrown away then you're not paying attention, which explains why you think Samurai Champloo is better.

If you think of it musically the show carries it's leitmotifs through episodes moreso than plot. The structure between episodes is more musical. Now maybe you don't think thats a good way to do it, but when you say there's nothing going on you're just displaying your own ignorance.
 
I spent over 3 years of my life obsessing over Anime and Manga, after that time I came to the realisation that no Anime, not a single one, came close to the beauty of Cowboy BeBop.

It's perfect. Eccentric, heartfelt, funny, serious, complex, it's so much more than what passes as most Anime.

The crystallisation of a genre, everyone needs to see it. Even the movie released several years after the series is wonderful too.
 
That's a fair point. If definitely avoids the trappings of most other anime.

As a teenager who didn't like anime I liked evangelion far more as an entry point to the genre. I went into that though expecting all the angst and what not

By the trappings you mean the rote adherence to an incredibly limited subset of tropes and characters?
 
Bull
Fucking
Shit


Pretty much 90% of the show is fluff, with no relevance what so ever to the "main plot" (and I use that term loosely) of Spike vs Vicious.

Is the show pretty? Hell yes.
Is the show well voiced? Dubs and Subs.
Is the show well directed? Of course, it's Watanabe.
Does the music work? Anyone arguing 'no' has an uphill fight.

Is the show coherent? Meh, not really.
Is the show well written? If you like episodic series then yes.

Is the show over rated? Abso-fucking-lutely.

Samurai Champloo is pretty much superior to Cowboy Bebop in every way except one.

Ein > Momo

Fucking lol, if Bebop is 90% fluff
Hint: It's not
than Champloo is 95% fluff. Both are fantastic, but don't even try to argue that Champloo is somehow less episodic then Bebop.
 
By the trappings you mean the rote adherence to an incredibly limited subset of tropes and characters?

Are you talking about Eva? At the time Eva was a deconstruction of the mech genre - really kicks in midway through. It was after it people began using the character archetypes for their own shows, which in turn led to the deconstruction of the deconstruction (and possible reconstruction?) that was Gurren Lagann.
 
Are you talking about Eva? At the time Eva was a deconstruction of the mech genre - really kicks in midway through. It was after it people began using the character archetypes for their own shows, which in turn led to the deconstruction of the deconstruction (and possible reconstruction?) that was Gurren Lagann.

no, I wasn't talking about Eva, I was speaking generally. There are always a few shows that work outside of these constructs but theres so much that adheres strictly to a specific structure like the shounen structure.
 
Pretty much 90% of the show is fluff, with no relevance what so ever to the "main plot" (and I use that term loosely) of Spike vs Vicious.

Spike vs Vicious (Julia and Spike's backstory in general) is the only weak point of Cowboy Bebop....THANK GOODNESS they didn't focus on that crap. Every other part of the show is amazing but that shit was garbage.
 
This was one of the first animes I introduced my girlfriend to. She was pretty meh on it. She made an interesting point which was that if I had shown it to her later, after she had gotten accustomed to watching and enjoying anime, she would have had a different reaction. As it stand it is forever a meh experience for her.
 
I don't consider myself an Anime fan yet I've liked pretty much everyone I've invested anytime in. Cowboy Bebop is my favorite. DBZ is really close followed by Tri-Gun, Full-Metal and Hellsing.

Avatar the Last Airbender
 
This was one of the first animes I introduced my girlfriend to. She was pretty meh on it. She made an interesting point which was that if I had shown it to her later, after she had gotten accustomed to watching and enjoying anime, she would have had a different reaction. As it stand it is forever a meh experience for her.

dump her.
 
Criticism of Bebop is clearly the talk of unrefined savages. :P

Seriously though, Samurai Champloo? Though it wasn't my cup o tea, I can see the appeal it has and that's fine. I ain't gonna talk shit. But better than Bebop? ....
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Yet I digress, different people like different things.

A testament to how good and magical the Bebop formula is:
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It also made for one of the greatest live action Sci-Fi shows ever. Though the following of said formula was unintentional.
 
I actually like Space Dandy over Cowboy and Champloo. Is that bad?

Yes

Not at all. Aside from Bebop and Dandy sharing a setting (kind of), they are completely different shows. You probably just prefer comedies over whatever genre Bebop is.
 
So I watched episode 5 and wow, it was pretty intense. I'm guessing the storyline involving Spike's past is far from over and really excited to see how it all pans out. Really enjoyed all the episodes so far, can't wait for more.
 
So I watched episode 5 and wow, it was pretty intense. I'm guessing the storyline involving Spike's past is far from over and really excited to see how it all pans out. Really enjoyed all the episodes so far, can't wait for more.

Ballad of Fallen Angel was my introduction to the show. Truly epic episode to start with.
 
So I watched episode 5 and wow, it was pretty intense. I'm guessing the storyline involving Spike's past is far from over and really excited to see how it all pans out. Really enjoyed all the episodes so far, can't wait for more.

The cinematography together with that choir song kicking in at the ending sequence at the church was perfect. Chills.
 
Y'know, I've been rewatching the series now the blu ray is out and I actually think Ballad of Fallen Angels is a low point. It's not bad by any means, but it lacks the heart most great Bebop episodes have. It feels like a bunch of film noir and John Woo film tropes strung together. Some of the lines are truly dire, especially in the Vicious fight at the end.

It has some of the most striking visuals in the series and some great music, though, so it's at least better than Boogie Woogie Feng Shui. That and My Funny Valentine are the biggest clunkers in the series.

No way man, My Funny Valentine has
a funny twist, on what could've been a really cheesy melodramatic anime love story, i don't get the hate for that episode.
 
The psychedelic mushrooms episode is my favorite Champloo. It's probably why I love Space Dandy so much. I love that over the top weirdness.
 
Y'know, I've been rewatching the series now the blu ray is out and I actually think Ballad of Fallen Angels is a low point. It's not bad by any means, but it lacks the heart most great Bebop episodes have. It feels like a bunch of film noir and John Woo film tropes strung together. Some of the lines are truly dire, especially in the Vicious fight at the end.

It has some of the most striking visuals in the series and some great music, though, so it's at least better than Boogie Woogie Feng Shui. That and My Funny Valentine are the biggest clunkers in the series.

Whenever I re-watch bebop, I switch episodes 21 and 16, so that the epic run from 17-26 isn't ruined, and so
Jet gets his conclusion later in the story.
 
Bebop is by far, the greatest anime of all time. No arguements. Well written characters, great animation, great music, great setting. An all around great show.

OP, you're in for a treat. I envy you, how I crave to reexperience the show for a first time. All talks about episode 5 are not hyperbole btw, great fucking episode.
 
No way man, My Funny Valentine has
a funny twist, on what could've been a really cheesy melodramatic anime love story, i don't get the hate for that episode.

I just think Speak Like a Child is a much more interesting Faye story. My Funny Valentine is just kind of boring, I guess.
 
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