I don't see why not but its currently a novelty for them and novelties generally wear off.
LIZARD SQUAD is Back. Planning XBL Attack. "Biggest attack yet". [UP: XBL/PSN Down]
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I don't see why not but its currently a novelty for them and novelties generally wear off.
Whatever. I still feel that when you are not getting what you are paying for, then you should be given some sort of compensation as an act of appreciation and good will. That is just good business. Or... at least it used to be.
And perhaps the perpetrators will be prosecuted and will one day face the many, many abuses present in American prisons. Maybe that will salivate your internet justice thirst.
Synless
Member
I wonder the same thing. I could see people online with my app yesterday, yet I could not until late last night.
These guys need to go to jail, fucking assholes. If Lizard Squad members are doing this now, at a young age, then they will probably grow up and still be criminals. Cant expect much from a human being that send bomb threats to an airplane too. And yes, hey need to be punched in the face. In public.
Security advisors can help setup the network in ways that aren't as easily brought down by a botnet ddos. I assume they do employee those already and this is actually just a load issue due to the holidays. The downside of good sales numbers I guess.
I don't care. I am paying for a service that I can't use. Were it me, I would go out of my way to apologize and show my customers that their business is appreciated. Not doing so could even drive more away.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
Or consoles need to have games that don't require the damn system online network.
shadowsdarknes
Member
A lot of people couldn't get on Netflix yesterday on their PS4.
Not only does Netflix work for me, but so does the PS Store. I even have friends online (2).
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Screw that coddling, this is a constant issue with these fuckers. They need a real life ass kicking.
Ol No Bones
Banned
So is this one of those things that if we ignore them they go away? I can't imagine spending my time and money just to be a dick to millions of people.
Doesnt really matter if it's in the terms of service. Those things have no real legal bearing.
If it went offline and there was a good reason (maintenance, fire in the server room, earthquake) for it - YES, i'm totally cool with that. THIS bullshit i am not okay with.
Regulated in what way? I am sure if NSA were involved this shit would be resolved in an hour.
You being this laughably angry is exactly what they want because, for the most part, you can't do shit besides calling for a public punching of faceless script kiddies.
Tal Shiar Agent
Banned
So the actual attack is over and what's left is just the networks coming back online and dealing with the deluge of people trying to get online at once?
You show them you care by getting the service back up and running after being victims of a criminal attack. Again if they give out free stuff for this all its going to do is encourage another attack further down the line because a bad precedent has been set.
If this was something that was 100 percent Sony and Microsoft's fault I'd totally agree with you. But it wasn't.
Hey, they made CNN. I am sure they feel so powerful and almighty hiding behind their computers.
I think they might have different servers in order to get online. Not too sure
Different servers. They are only attacking one of them right now.
I think our friends are connected before the second attack.
See if fighting one or two guys changes anything about coordinated DDOS attack. Hint: It won't.
LOL, what the fuck ever, man. What Kim dotcom is doing is rewarding this kind of activity. Giving a bit of compensation to your affected customer base who are paying for this service is merely an act of appreciation.
Miggytronz
Member
Man we better not miss out on Xur in Destiny.
SlackAdjuster
Member
You can set it up fine, and download all firmware updates and such. Buy a retail game or two though.
Thanks! I'm sure it'll get sorted out soon and I have to work from 3p-11p tonight anyway so...off I go!
Sure, if you take what these Lizard Squad assholes say at face value.
Which you maybe shouldn't.
We get it, you don't like violence.
And what does Microsoft and Sony do to prevent it? Create the infrastructure to defend against it but also hand down the cost to you? You ready for $50 a month online subscription fees? $100?
This is a much more complicated problem then walking over to someone and giving them a punch in the mouth. Don't be so reductive.
And if Sony / Microsoft gave it's customers free stuff (which for the sake of this lets claim lizard squad kids all have xbl/PSN accounts) they'd be getting rewarded for the damage they did. They would stay winning and still laugh in your face for what they did. You don't win in this situation either way. This is all at a loss for everyone involved. There is no compensation for this and there shouldn't be. Go soak your head and cool off. That's your reward.
KennyLinder
Member
Why isn't it preventable? So ANY online service in the world can be taken down like this? I refuse to believe that.
I know, he's got the upgrades for my two Titan helmets, been waiting weeks for them. Sigh.
This, The DDoS is showing how vurnerable this Next Gen is as it depends too much on been online.
STILLethal
Member
So there's absolutely nothing that can be done in the future to prevent ddos attacks? I mean somebody out there should invent some chit real quick
You have absolutely no clue. I've been one of those support people at a company suffering from a DDoS attack. The combined weight of being nearly powerless mixed with the expectations from management is crushing. The long, long hours sat there firefighting and working with upstream suppliers.
It doesn't matter that it's videogames, it could be anything else, it's a group of people preventing thousands to millions of others from using a product that they purchased, for their own personal amusement. You don't think that they deserve a smack in the mouth?
And then when the next DDOS attack happens everyone is going to want more compensation. And then again. And again. See the slippery slope that happens there?
I think better compensation would be Microsoft and Sony going after these people and making examples out of them, personally.
Your calls to violence won't do shit, period, and people beating their chests about it is some internet tough guy nonsense. I guarantee you wouldn't do anything even if you had the ability.
Arthr2ShdsJcksn
Banned
Despite being normally against violence, I would support a nice public flogging of these jerks.
Hopefully they'll sink some money into not having completely shit servers. This wouldn't be an issue at all if they stepped up their service and security.
Read earlier in this thread. Even Google got taken down by this in the past. It's more or less just spamming servers with fake traffic until they buckle.
NinJaSQUARE
Member
To be honest, if it's very hard to prevent DDoS attacks, I'm worried about the future about how people can get away with these attacks so easily.
you are refusing to believe the truth then. any service can be DDOS'd, it's just that the larger ones (google, amazon, facebook) have exponentially more capacity to start with and are correspondingly more difficult to saturate.
with a large enough botnet using enough traffic amplification it could be done though.
That's a little much.
Ooof and Xur finally has the Ghorn upgrade.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
I'd smack one in the face, sure.
hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I think Bungie will let him stay for a day or more this time.
KennyLinder
Member
It's madness that modern software cannot detect frequent calls that an IP address or whatever is making it and just block it.
I suggest you read this.
https://m.facebook.com/h4ck3dByGautamKumawat/posts/533587700042831
Go ahead and try the exercise he includes.
This isn't rocket science, CPUs only have so many cycles, tie them all up and ain't nothing getting through.
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