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Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
- Thread starter daydream
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Nah, you can't blame Brad for it. They all talked about the pre-release hype of W_D and agreed that it was the biggest disappointment. Jeff straight up said he played the game a while back at a preview event and it was better than the game that was released.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
Looking at peoples posts here it looks like Dorian's the best DA:I character. Is that fair? I wouldn't argue with it.
It really made no sense. The only questionable thing so far for me. But whatever, it's just videogames.
Is this the beginning of your next noir pulp novel?
NightmareTrigger
Banned
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Brad pulled a masterful deflection to Watch_Dogs, almost as good as Jasons "What About Guilty Gear Xrd" for best graphics.
Basileus777
Member
He spoils the ending.
It's certainly a toss-up between these 3 for me. Dorian is the most fun, Cassandra is more interesting and well-developed, Solas is more likeable.
Iron Bull just says "I like to hit things" a lot, I think he's a poor choice for best character.
Bull is A LOT more than "I like to hit things"
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Dorian is the most entertaining character. "Best" is either Cassandra or Morrigan. But both are returning characters and are disqualified.
nckillthegrimace
Member
Yes, look for "The Frenchman's Shart" at next year's E3.
Okay, thanks for the heads up. Gonna just randomly skip ahead and hope for the best
I remember years ago talking about DA:O with my brother... and I was pretty sure he mentioned how he hated the gameplay and didn't play more than a few hours. We both played DA:I at the same time, I told him how I felt like Morrigan had changed as a character... she was far less sarcastic and condescending. The moment I realized that he lied about playing DA:O was when he said "nah, she was exactly the same as she was before".
Fuck you Erik, you goddamn liar.
I'm really happy I barely paid attention to him during that conversation. I really want to play Dragon Grandpa 1 & 2 at some point but I'm waiting on a lower price point.
did i miss something
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
Maybe he didn't do the
ritual?
In which case it's brilliant. Better game choice importing/reflection than all of the Mass Effects combined.
Seriously?
Maybe it depends on your playstyle or your choices? I'm right before the end of the game and all I've heard from him so far is "I like to hit things" or some vaguely interesting Qunari backstory. The only time that talking to him in Skyhold triggered a cutscene was when he got me drunk after we killed a dragon. That part was pretty awesome but other than that I got very little from that character.
Neither will I. I didn't expect to like Dorian as much as I did. From the outside, he looked like the typical "hide my insecurities with sarcasm" character, but he knew exactly who he was both good and bad. I never felt like I had to coddle him like many Bioware characters. Also, liked that they didn't shy away from his views on slavery. While he was an outlier Tevinter, he was still very much a product of his environment.
Hasphat'sAnts
Member
I think the strength of his character is heavily dependent on which choice you made in his personal quest.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Pretty early in the game but I think that he is already a fresh character given that
he outrights admits being a spy.
I wouldnt even say hes the most entertaining. Hes probably the most likable. Even though I dont think shes a great character, I do think that Vivienne's exchanges with other characters are fun to listen to since She doesnt get along with the others. Iron Bull and Solas also provide fun commentary when youre out and about.
Overall, I do agree that Casandra was my favorite character.
This. Jeff gives in to let Destiny not win most disappointing in order to make sure it doesn't get filibustered into the top 10 by Brad.
Ingueferroque
Banned
What the fuck. With a warning, I hope?
Hasphat, you and I have been talking DA:I back and forth for several days at this point. Don't take his side, he never finished DA:O because he's a horrible human being. He needs to understand this.
Haunted
Member
Warning is given at the start of day 1 that end of year deliberations will contain spoilers for all games discussed.
They mention at the start that they arent holding back and to expect spoilers for any game ever released.
I mean, they warn you at the beginning of every podcast they're going to have open spoilers for the games they discuss.
Nah, the interview stuff has been great. Vinny arguing with his wife as the camera pulled back to reveal he was camping in his back yard was perfect.
But yeah, Destiny is a disappointment on a scale that eclipses anything else.
Problem with the format is only a few of the crew really care. Brad chosen a five to push like a stalker, Jeff quietly ensures all his choices win and Patrick is building up support for the actual GOTY choices.
The other guys don't really fight for things and often their games are quietly dropped.
Hearthstone clearly is a new debut. Alien is clearly a video game franchise just as much as the multitude of middle earth games.
m_shortpants
Member
Personally I figured WD would be Assassin's Creed with cell phone a few months before it came out. Even still, the only disappointment I had with it was the graphics downgrade. Otherwise i thought the gameplay, while not groundbreaking, was fun. I actually quite enjoyed the gunplay and stealth sequences. Online invasions were fun too. Story was horseshit but whatever, it's a Ubisoft game I don't expect much.
Destiny on the other hand. That's a Bungie game. I expected SOME story, but there's nothing. The whole grimoire card mechanic as a storytelling device is mindblowingly bad. Mechanically, the game is sound but the mission design is so piss poor it's almost a joke. Funny how Brad is the "left trigger, right trigger" too. I think the main reason it stings is because I loved Halo 1, 2, 3, ODST, and Reach MP as well. Destiny's MP didn't do anything for me.
I'd say I enjoyed WD more than Destiny.
Basileus777
Member
I think they should have all been disqualified. Licensed games from franchises with dozens of games aren't new. Mordor should have been eliminated. But yeah, the inconsistency and convenient application of the rules they invent gets pretty silly.
super-famicom
Member
The Fall is a damned good game. I fell in love with it even before Vinny did the quick look.
Just gonna repost my Steam review, please play it guys!
Just gonna repost my Steam review, please play it guys!
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Has someone with Singstar gone and put all of Jeff's performances up on youtube yet?
I think it's kind of redundant as an award myself. Ranking something as a best debut, or a best console exclusive, seems to be drawing the process back into the times when they had to rank the best game on each platform and formulate the GOTY list from that.
The GOTY award itself should be where they rank the best games as complete packages. Making sub GOTY lists with specific criteria attached (debut! console exclusive!) seems like a distraction.
Basileus777
Member
I think it could be interesting to award the best game from a new franchise or IP. But if you're giving it to the 84th LOTR game, I'm not sure the category has any purpose. They might as well have nominated Call of Duty because it has a new subtitle this year.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
It was good LOTR game with a good gameplay system that surprised almost everyone.
I get you about the IP or franchise, but I will say that is not only the 84th LOTR for many of us (if that was the case, is a pretty bad LOTR game, theme wise)
Basileus777
Member
I'm not sure how any of that applies to what I said. That's what the GOTY category is for.
call_kotaku
Member
But lets be real, this is about the cast discussing the year in games, not necessarily about having an objective evaluation of their merits
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I think the Nemesis System can be considered a debut.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Yeah that's sort of how I'm viewing this. There are too many games that not all of them played to make it a fair, across the board discussion about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd best games in every category they discuss. I'm just enjoying their discussions and honestly don't care about what game places where.
as for the debut discussions, I think Mordor and Alien fit because they were not attached to any previous video game lineage. They are very much new games even though they carry old licenses. I mean if this discussion were taking place the year Batman AA came out, would anyone be dismissing it because there were Batman games on the NES and Playstation 2? That being said, Hearthstone probably should have counted too.
Basileus777
Member
Well obviously. But it's still fun to discuss these things even knowing that.
How about the new movement system in COD? Advanced Warfare was robbed.
Messofanego
Banned
Listen closely to the start of all these podcasts. They declare it's spoiler territory, no disclaimers, so tread with caution. You're going to have to use spoilers if you're discussing games' stories in depth for certain discussions.