NumberThree
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Jeff's part of the video will be him playing WWE Supercard. Because let's face it, it's not really a video game.
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Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
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Jeff's part of the video will be him playing WWE Supercard. Because let's face it, it's not really a video game.
Messofanego
Banned
That's perfect.
Not to mention he hates video games. It came straight from his mouth!
Jeff's going to go off and start his rap career while rummaging through thousands of empty video game boxes until he finds a copy of Mario Party 3 at the bottom of a bin and cries at the realization that it's the only video game to survive gameageddon.
I also hope that Mordor doesn't win GotY simply because I didn't care for it at all. I found it to be extremely boring and shallow.
The combat feels worse than in Arkham and I'm kind of tired of that style anyway. There isn't much of a challenge to it either. The story was absolute garbage and not even Troy Baker could save the main character. The Nemesis System is indeed a neat addition but it never clicked for me like it apparently did with others. To me it's gimmick that needs a better game around it to shine and to make it more interesting.
Bayonetta 2 on the other hand is my favorite game of the year so I'm rooting for that even though I doubt it'll win.
The combat feels worse than in Arkham and I'm kind of tired of that style anyway. There isn't much of a challenge to it either. The story was absolute garbage and not even Troy Baker could save the main character. The Nemesis System is indeed a neat addition but it never clicked for me like it apparently did with others. To me it's gimmick that needs a better game around it to shine and to make it more interesting.
Bayonetta 2 on the other hand is my favorite game of the year so I'm rooting for that even though I doubt it'll win.
I think you might be onto something actually.
Since they said at the beginning of the first recap video that they'd finally finished playing all the Mario Party's, I think the series may end with them having to replay the post Mario Party 2 games again (or for the first time, as they've never played them yet).
call_kotaku
Member
It's perfectly natural for Mordor to win a voting award just by virtue of not very many people having the access or the desire to play Bayonetta. It'd be different if Mordor was chosen on a curated list, even if the list was curated by multiple people.
That said, the Bombcast crew is the one curating this list, not people posting on neogaf, so whatever they choose is whatever they chose. It'd just bum me out that such a competent but generally uninspired game is 2014's GOTY. it's like Shakespeare in Love winning best picture in 1998, though to be fair 2014's slate of games is vastly inferior to 1998's slate of films.
Mordor doesn't do anything particularly well, it just doesn't do anything besides the ending badly enough to be noteworthy. It doesn't do story better than Batman, it doesn't do world-building better than Assassin's Creed, and its combat isn't as good as Batman (not comparing it to Bayo since it's a totally different approach). The Nemesis system is the only thing different about the game when compared with its obvious influences. It's a better game than Batman or AC's most recent outings, but I don't know if "not on Most Disappointing list" is enough for a game to be GOTY.
I'll repeat myself a little here; saying Mordor doesn't do anything well except it's new, well utilised, extremely enjoyable central gameplay mechanic is kind of insanely reductive.
Saying the game played it safe and took no chances or exceeded nowhere and got by through virtue of being totally unbroken is totally untrue. It took a huge risk in the Nemesis system, and it hit a home run. If that system was janked up; so much of the gameplay, so much of the story, so much of the open world interaction, hell, so much of the pre game coverage, would have been absolutely broken and silly to the extent it might find itself on the list for Most Dissapointing or Hottest Mess.
As an aside, I'll also say that yeah, Mordor does actually do some other stuff better than some of its inspirations. Having played Unity recently, the exploration and traversal in Mordor is vastly superior.
I hope Brad has gone on to organize a sport based off of DOTA to quench his thirst for DOTA in a post-video game world. I somehow want rich and snooty Jeff. He wears suits and only drinks wine.
I've enjoyed this year's stuff. Their picks and arguments don't get to me too much because I like Giant Bomb for their personalities and get where everyone is coming from because of this. It does make for some great (and strange) discussions in these threads though.
I've enjoyed this year's stuff. Their picks and arguments don't get to me too much because I like Giant Bomb for their personalities and get where everyone is coming from because of this. It does make for some great (and strange) discussions in these threads though.
Basileus777
Member
The point is that not everyone agrees that the Nemesis system is a home-run. In fact many aren't particularly impressed with it.
I'm one of those people, it didn't leave a very big impression on me. There were better games released this year that deserve GOTY more.
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
My problem with the Nemesis system is that it amounts to little if you're good at the game. I rarely died in Mordor, like maybe 5 times, so I didn't build up any relationship with any of the Orcs. I didn't even know who the hell my Nemesis at the end of the game was. Like it's supposed to be this climactic moment and it just fell 100% flat for me. It's cool that you can engineer a situation where a warchief is surrounded by 5 orcs who are all your pawns, but at the same time, the game is so easy by the end because you're so goddamn overpowered that it's more trouble than it's worth. I can just slaughter everyone with impunity or abuse the dumb AI and use stealth whenever that's more convenient or fun. I really liked the game but you really run roughshod all over all of its inventive mechanics and brute force your way past all of it if you're okay at it. I've heard from critics who are like "I died like 5 times to this one Orc and it was epic" and stuff like that, and that just baffles me. It's a really, really easy game once you've unlocked about half of your abilities.
At the end of the day, it hasn't really stayed with me, because it's too easy and the story was crap and the story missions weren't really inventive either. It's comfort food gaming, feels good, but the calories are empty.
illmatic19
Member
They throw around the word "bad" way too liberally.
Oh ok. If it's not something you like, I can't really argue with that.
I guess what I'm trying to get at with all my posts is, that if you are someone who liked it (such as myself or what seems like most of the GB crew) the consideration for Mordor as GOTY isn't surprising or depressing.
Frosty Droid
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Mechanized
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For the vast majority it isn't surprising. The nemesis system is one of the best open-world mechanics ever created, and its potential is insane. The fact that they pulled it off so well right out of the gate is amazing.
Its all original. The first 10minutes is the usual GOTY skit and last 30minutes or so is a Quick Look of games people voted they wanted to see more of of.
I agree. Even though I prefer Bayo 2,Mordor is a worthy GOTY this year in my book.
Nose Master
Member
Mordor was fantastic at the beginning, but the arrow slowly moved toward boring the more powerful you get until the game really goes downhill the 20 min after you messed around with branding.
Nemesis system is pointless if you can just brute force your way through every fight midway through.
Nemesis system is pointless if you can just brute force your way through every fight midway through.
TharpDaddy
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Too much production work and lack of time probably. They only have Vinny, Alex and Patrick for a handful of days.
Yeah, neither is my personal GOTY but I can totally understand why others would go for them. I think its kinda silly to be "disappointed" that someone else didn't like a game as much as me.
I think Jeff said exactly that. Its too time consuming
lol
The Dear Leader
Banned
Yeah it really doesn't, I think sometimes personal opinion got in the way of facts during the podcast's this year.
N
Noray
Unconfirmed Member
I was listening to his reasoning and it made zero sense. Alex and co should've stuck up for it on principle because it was just Jeff being Jeff. I remember Patrick trying to convince Alex to try Hearthstone on Bombin' and it seemed like an impossible sell, and here we are and it's one of Alex's favorite games.
Just watched the day three recap video. Holy fuck Brad's got some mad singing skills.
Another endlessly useable GIF.
Another endlessly useable GIF.
eot
Banned
It's a shame, because their more produced videos are the ones I enjoy the most. I miss their video reviews too.
ratcliffja
Member
I've been saying it for months and it's becoming increasingly obvious: Mordor is going to win GOTY and it won't even be close.
You're a prophet.
Thats every year.
Naw, The talk they had on it during the best debut made think it wont be that easy.
TharpDaddy
Member
I think Jeff, Dan and Vinny will be the ones pushing for Mordor GOTY, with Alex, Brad and Patrick against it. No idea where Jason and Drew will fall. Brad seemed to have big issues with the story/lore side, and Alex/Patrick enjoyed other games more it seems like.
nobodyshero
Banned
No way Brad goes against it, he was head over heels for that game when it released.
His reasoning would have been acceptable enough...if they didn't end up giving it to another fucking spinoff!!!
Well he was one of the most vocal against it in favour of Sunset for debut game and says he hates what it did to the lotr lore.
No way he's getting Sunset anywhere with both Jeff and Vinny disliking it though. GOTY will come down to the game that most of the crew are at least "OK" with, which will almost certainly be Mordor.
OH MY GOD! THERE ARE VIDEOS OF THAT NIGHT?!?
I was so drunk at that thing. So drunk...
nobodyshero
Banned
Yeah, I'm beginning to think it'll be Mordor too, which kind of disappoints me. It's a great game, just feels a bit not right for such a high honor. I wish more of them had played Divinity or something.
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chaobreaker
Member
OH MY GOD! THERE ARE VIDEOS OF THAT NIGHT?!?
I was so drunk at that thing. So drunk...
You were there? How was it?
With Bayo 2 we know Dan, Patrick, Jeff and Jason all have it as one of their top games of the year. I don't recall anyone saying they dislike it unlike Alex with Mordor. Mordor can be criticised for a poor story and boring open world whereas Bayo has very weaknesses the story may not be great but it is dumb and if their is one thing GB loves it is dumb stories.