No, CELL actually has more performance im some respects than PS4's CPU. PS4 has far more performance than PS3 due it's more modern GPU heavy architecture though. Wii U also has comparable overall performance to PS360 thanks to it's more modern GPU heavy architecture, despite it's slower CPU.
The Wii U and its ability to produce amazing visuals.
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I have said this a bajillion times already, but art direction is going to become more and more prevalent over raw horsepower as a factor on determining good visuals with each passing generation. Hardcore gamers obsesses with realism and polygon count far more than the average player.
This is mostly true
We usually see native pics on high density displays, so they look amazing.
Take that AA-less game rendered in low res, stretch it on a 1080p 50 inch display, and enjoy the blurriness
I don't agree that it looks like ass though! It looks cute and pretty. But it's not specially groundbreaking...
Leafhopper
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Also I don't have Pikmin 3 (I even own Pikmin 1 got it when I got my Gamecube for Xmas in 2001 but that isn't my kinda game it seems) but, the environments in that game.
Damn son.
Damn son.
TheAdmiester
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Uh, I wasn't trying to say Oblivion looks better. I was saying all these games in the OP are like Oblivion, with over the top bloom.
To put it simply by example:
Notice the head of Captain Charlie has jagged edges, this is know as Aliasing.
Anti-aliasing (AA) is simply a process which reduces the visibility these jagged edges providing a smoother more natural looking image. There are plenty of examples on google of PC games with AA on and off.
Besthelboy
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Teletraan1
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How many console games with 4 player split screen have good image quality? Please name them.
The aliasing on most Wii U games is pretty poor ill give you that but I will take some jaggies over the vaseline filter applied to so many PS360 games last generation.
I would love to see Nintendo's output on a PS4+ spec'd machine. I can guarantee we would be getting 1080p60 with much better IQ across the board. But that is what I want across the board for every console game.
LiquidNarwhal
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I know I'm late in responding to this, but WindWaker HD has an atrocious frame rate. I don't consider myself super sensitive to things and it really bugs me.
Captain Europe
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Yep, I don't understand the complaining after all these gorgeous games at 60fps.
About Wii U graphics:
1. they look really good (which confirms Nintendo first party devs know their stuff, not to say they offer the best polish in the industry)
2. they achieve this nice balance of looking good, while still allowing Nintendo to be prolific as an editor
This 2nd point pleases me the most.
1. they look really good (which confirms Nintendo first party devs know their stuff, not to say they offer the best polish in the industry)
2. they achieve this nice balance of looking good, while still allowing Nintendo to be prolific as an editor
This 2nd point pleases me the most.
Alex_Mexico
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Everytime I see Mario 3D World my mouth waters at the thought of seeing a Super Mario Galaxy 3 on WiiU.
peanutbutterlatte
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Tropical Freeze manages to look overall great, without any single element looking outstanding... hard to explain, but there's just so much going on, with so much colour. Truly beautiful.
The perfect Dark
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ummm what?
Synless
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As a PS3 and 360 owner for all 7 years and a PS4 owner. I can safely say that many first party games on Wii U outclass what I have seen from both the PS3 and 360, most of which do so at 60fps.
WW HD frame rate stutters when there are too many bombs going off at sea and... that's it. A shame it's not locked all the time, but it's hardly atrocious, it's not even bad.
peanutbutterlatte
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Been spoiled, since when is "Not sixty FPS" become "atrocious"?
The perfect Dark
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Good question. PS4 and Xbox One games must be unplayable, lol.
I can assume you didn't play the game to say shit like that.
Game is a smooth ride all the way, it lags only if you let those spiky ball things from Forest Temple spawn everywhere. I never noticed this specific framerate problem until a GAFer showed a Youtube video about it. Plus I finished the game at this point, thinking it was perfect all the way. ¬_¬
So, yeah, atrocious my ass.
freakzilla3000
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I completely agree with the OP. The Wii U produces some amazing visuals and the games just seem to "pop" off the TV screen.
Mario 3D World, Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3, Smash Bros, Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker come to mind and I am in love with the visuals.
Mario 3D World, Rayman Legends, Pikmin 3, Smash Bros, Captain Toad's Treasure Tracker come to mind and I am in love with the visuals.
not_so_special
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well how many open world games are on wiiu? cause the lego game can be done o a 360 or ps3
i haven seen anything on wiiu surpassin the last god of war.nothing
KillerMan91
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sörine;145386061 said:
For pretty much anything other than GPU workload the jaguar destroys CELL. Jaguar is far better at normal CPU tasks than CELL.
Haha I love how the first few pages are people pointing out this is nothing new and we shouldn't be having the same threads yet are happy to produce a Nintendo hate thread with nothing new every few weeks. Priorities I guess.
Nintendo's artstyle is absolutely gorgeous and always has been. Developers for them care more about the players experience than hitting that technical feat, which apparently the vast "majority" of gamers care about (I highly, highly doubt this). I've always got a big smile on my face playing 3D World, Smash or Mario Kart 8 because the games are just so much fun, and look amazing. The experience is something I can't really get anywhere else for myself.
Nintendo's artstyle is absolutely gorgeous and always has been. Developers for them care more about the players experience than hitting that technical feat, which apparently the vast "majority" of gamers care about (I highly, highly doubt this). I've always got a big smile on my face playing 3D World, Smash or Mario Kart 8 because the games are just so much fun, and look amazing. The experience is something I can't really get anywhere else for myself.
BigBadShamoo
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Yes the games look great, but Nintendo needs to stop being gens behind tech wise.
Kai Dracon
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Actually, Nintendo has been working for over ten years on refining a cohesive art style for 3D modeling and CG worlds. It began around the time of Smash Bros Melee with a concerted effort to craft official renders that translated their traditional aesthetic into CG.
Ever since then, every few years they released a new set of character renders, and promotional CG which demonstrated they were hard at work refining the style. The advent of the Wii U seems to have coincided with their CG art direction [LOCKING ON] to exactly the right look to capture the classic Nintendo vibe in real-time 3D.
Ever since then, every few years they released a new set of character renders, and promotional CG which demonstrated they were hard at work refining the style. The advent of the Wii U seems to have coincided with their CG art direction [LOCKING ON] to exactly the right look to capture the classic Nintendo vibe in real-time 3D.
I think a correction would be "Nintendo and their amazing ability to put out great graphics even on underpowered platforms"
Any third party game on Wii U is kinda eh, especially when they don't even run as well as on PS3 or XB360 but nonetheless.
Also, this was on PS3 and 360:
I like Nintendo but there's no need to sugarcoat it. It's not as if we haven't seen anything like it before, but it is wonderful how Nintendo games are good at putting a smile on your face because they are so cheerful and colorful.
Any third party game on Wii U is kinda eh, especially when they don't even run as well as on PS3 or XB360 but nonetheless.
Also, this was on PS3 and 360:
I like Nintendo but there's no need to sugarcoat it. It's not as if we haven't seen anything like it before, but it is wonderful how Nintendo games are good at putting a smile on your face because they are so cheerful and colorful.
Head of Vengarl
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The credit for the "amazing visuals" should go to the game developers, not the console.
Indeed. Nowhere is this more clear than in Xenoblade Chronicles it has the graphics of a PS2 game, but the art direction makes it look absolutely stunning.
Indeed. Nowhere is this more clear than in Xenoblade Chronicles it has the graphics of a PS2 game, but the art direction makes it look absolutely stunning.
Xaero Gravity
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I wouldn't say it's atrocious, but it takes a noticeable dive when I mess around with bombs.
The perfect Dark
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the salt in this thread is amazing. next gen on ms and sony platforms is really underwhelming so far.
LiquidNarwhal
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I can assume you're being an ass, don't accuse me of not playing a game because your opinion doesn't sync up with mine. Specifically the frame rate in the boss battle with Gohma was horrible for me.
The perfect Dark
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the framerate is fine
It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
The framerate is good.
You're saying in your first post that the framerate in WW is atrocious as a whole, expect feedback. The framerate is perfect 99% of the time.
LiquidNarwhal
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I've played the game, seen it with my eyes, experienced it, and it bothered me. Sorry if you disagree but it took a lot away from the experience for me.
Edit: most of the game is fine, but there are specific parts that really bothered me for clarification.
Vulcano's assistant
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lol giving credit to the silicon instead of the artists
First is without anti-aliasing, second is with (some) anti-aliasing
Click image to enlarge for comparison.
A good example to look at it the wooden post behind Samus's arm. The edges of the model become much smoother and seem more like a diagonal line, than the toothy one with aliasing.
M1ch04c4n0
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I don't think you can made the equivalency in graphics from a modern game to a PS2 game if we're talking about PS2-era CGI graphics.
I still find funny how people throw silly comments like that around. Either that, or I played the wrong PS2 games
Shikamaru Ninja
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One big thing Nintendo has managed to accomplish over the past five years, is to establish a large middleware/graphic library division, and a network division. Nintendo Land caught my eye, and Mario Kart blew me away.
protomouse
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Nintendo are extremely proficient at making games for their systems. It's a marriage of art direction and technical expertise.
First Party Exclusive Games on PS4 easily are as mindblowing and more impressive graphically to me then Wii U and i doubt many would disagree on this
Ah, the old "name Link Zelda" troll... I lol'ed, but it's probably just nostalgia.
Or maybe the poster who posted the pic was actually referring to the great looking plushie instead of "Zelda" (rofl), but whatever.
NarrowPath
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Nintendo didn't design the Wii U to be a powerhouse. They aimed for efficient power. The Wii U only draws 34 watts. Look at the games and screenshots with that in the back of your mind. I think that is admirable and impressive.
PhoenixDawn
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Nintendo's games usually are masterpieces of artistic direction and design. You can see this from the fact that even most 1st party Wii games (originally SD) usually look spectacular without any changes besides increasing the resolution in Dolphin. One area that Nintendo sometimes is lacking in is texture work, but their games seem to be created in such a way that they can be visited years, even decades later with only minor improvements in resolution through the emulation software without looking extremely dated like a lot of early PS3/360 games already do.