TheBaronOfNA
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I was actually surprised by Dan counter arguments. He can be very good expressing his points when he likes it.
Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
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I was actually surprised by Dan counter arguments. He can be very good expressing his points when he likes it.
biggest disappointment is that I keep on expecting Alex to make his move when he quickly tried to get rid of games off the list... yet he never did 
Still find it hilarious that bayonetta 2 of all games ended up number 2 with pretty much zero debate about why its so up there. It wasn't going to win 1st, yet wasn't reshuffled somehow by the end.
Platinum game at 2nd for GOTY for giantbomb.
insane.
Still find it hilarious that bayonetta 2 of all games ended up number 2 with pretty much zero debate about why its so up there. It wasn't going to win 1st, yet wasn't reshuffled somehow by the end.
Platinum game at 2nd for GOTY for giantbomb.
insane.
It's really kind of awkward that the unbalanced power dynamics of the group are exposed so openly. I'm going to finish up my table to see a what a GB top 10 looks like without those factors at play.
EmCeeGramr
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Didn't someone else do a weighted list of GOTY with Giant Bomb one year to see what a more representative list of all the duders would look like, or am I thinking of some other site? (or was it even a gaming site...?) It sounds vaguely familiar.
firehawk12
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Yeah, they took the individual top ten lists and made a top ten based on those rankings. I remember seeing it last year anyway.
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Deleted member 30609
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A lot of Jeff's arguments in Titanfall's favour yesterday sound a lot like his arguments against Destiny/
just saaaayin'
just saaaayin'
ShockingAlberto
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On paper, it makes totally logical sense. Biggest disappointment doesn't mean worst game. The best game of the year could also be a massive black hole of potential.
On paper.
But Jeff's never been one to be about "This is objectively well designed and fun." If he's not feeling something, he hates it, and he has complained endlessly about how boring he thinks Destiny is for months now. There's nothing inconsistent about a game being a biggest disappointment nominee and also being one of the best games of the year, I think Jeff thinking it's good is weird, though.
Tainted
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The goty podcast is purely for our entertainment. The only lists that really matter are their personal top 10's...the GOTY podcast deliberation is simply an exercise to see who has the most assertive personality and/or loudest voice
In saying that, Mordor is a deserved winner as it is the one game on the most of their lists (hell, they all had it in their top 10..can't say the same for Bayo 2)
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the snarky suggestion someone mentioned yesterday re: Jeff just compiling the winners and runners up and then everyone else just arguing for other inclusions/replacements was kind of absurd but it really would save so much time
Like, COD is on the best game list.
Like, COD is on the best game list.
TharpDaddy
Member
Always bet Brad.
Shadow of Mordor GOTY!?
The way I see, this is just a testament of how horrible AAA games have been this year. Is not that Shadow of Mordor is a bad game, its well crafted and the nemesis system is great... but man I couldn't even finish it, bored me to death after the first area.
The way I see, this is just a testament of how horrible AAA games have been this year. Is not that Shadow of Mordor is a bad game, its well crafted and the nemesis system is great... but man I couldn't even finish it, bored me to death after the first area.
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There's something to be said about awarding best game to a PS4/XBONE game that shipped complete.
Alien wins.
look even stardust put destiny in his top 10. are you going to disagree with stardust?
Is a game with a season pass "complete"?
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
Maybe is not in your taste, you know?
EmCeeGramr
Member
Yeah, I probably wrote a bit early; I am listening a bit further and the explanation is a bit better, but it was still weird to hear him say he was considering it for his top 10. Surprising to me.
It just is weird hearing him say that based on months of him gently railing on and dismissing the game. It seems a bit like he lets his personal expectations color his feelings on the game, and that's his own fault. But then he says something like that. Just generally confused but you are correct that it's logically sensible.
Never, of course I wouldn't. I actually love Destiny, am just kind of confused by the ups and downs of the crew talking about that game. Seems like the pre-release hype and coverage really colored their perspective.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I don't have either game.
pm me the avatar when you're ready i guess
I'm not saying is a bad game, nor I'm dennying that particular gameplay is not my cup of tea, I mean I don't even think is a bad choice as GOTY... but common!? seriouslly are you settling for that? Is that what we should expect for GAME OF THE YEAR
Doesn't change the fact some of the best "next" gen titles you can buy right now are actually HD remakes of games that came a year ago.
Let me know if you see any typos or errors. My next post will list the games by points.
1st = 20 points
2nd = 15
3rd = 12
4th =10
5th = 8
6th = 6
7th = 4
8th = 3
9th = 2
10th 1
Alien Isolation (Drew 7th, Pat 8th) = 7
The Banner Saga (Pat 6th, Vinny 9th) = 8
Bayonetta 2 (Alex 2nd, Dan 3rd, Jeff 6th, Pat 1st) = 53
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Pat 10th) = 1
Broken Age: Act I (Vinny 6th) = 6
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Pat 7th) = 4
COD AW (Jeff 1st) = 20
Crypt of the Necrodancer (Brad 10th) = 1
Dark Souls 2 (Vinny 4th) = 10
Diablo 3 UEE (Jeff 5th) = 8
Divinity: Original Sin (Pat 5th) = 8
Dota 2 (Brad 1st) = 20
Destiny (Brad 2nd, Drew 8th) = 18
The Fall (Vinny 2nd) = 15
Far Cry 4 (Brad 5th, Dan 2nd, Jeff 2nd) = 38
Fates Forever (Drew 2nd) = 15
GTAV (Brad 9th) = 2
Hack ‘n’ Slash (Vinny 10th) = 1
Hearthstone (Alex 3rd, Drew 6th) = 18
Jazzpunk (Alex 1st, Jeff 9th, Vinny 5th) = 30
Lethal League (Jeff 8th) = 3
Luftrausers (Jeff 4th, Vinny 8th) = 13
Kentucky Route Zero (Pat 3rd) = 12
Mario Kart 8 (Alex 6th, Dan 4th) = 16
MGSV Ground Zeroes (Brad 8th, Dan 5th) = 11
NaissanceE (Drew 5th) = 8
Nidhogg (Vinny 7th) = 4
PT (Pat 2nd) = 15
South Park (Alex 5th, Brad 3rd, Dan 9th, Vinny 3rd) = 34
Shadow of Mordor (Alex 8th, Brad 4th, Dan 1st, Drew 9th, Jeff 3rd, Pat 4th, Vinny 1st) = 77
Shovel Knight (Alex 7th, Dan 6th, Drew 10th, Pat 9th) = 13
Smash Bros (Dan 7th) = 4
Sunset Overdrive (Brad 7th, Dan 8th) = 7
This War of Mine (Drew 3rd) = 12
Threes (Dan 10th) = 1
Titanfall (Jeff 7th) = 4
Transistor (Brad 6th) = 6
Trials Fusion (Jeff 10th) = 1
The Uncle Who Works for Nintendo (Alex 9th) = 2
Valiant Hearts (Drew 4th) = 10
Wolfenstein (Alex 10th, Drew 1st) = 21
1st = 20 points
2nd = 15
3rd = 12
4th =10
5th = 8
6th = 6
7th = 4
8th = 3
9th = 2
10th 1
Alien Isolation (Drew 7th, Pat 8th) = 7
The Banner Saga (Pat 6th, Vinny 9th) = 8
Bayonetta 2 (Alex 2nd, Dan 3rd, Jeff 6th, Pat 1st) = 53
The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Pat 10th) = 1
Broken Age: Act I (Vinny 6th) = 6
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Pat 7th) = 4
COD AW (Jeff 1st) = 20
Crypt of the Necrodancer (Brad 10th) = 1
Dark Souls 2 (Vinny 4th) = 10
Diablo 3 UEE (Jeff 5th) = 8
Divinity: Original Sin (Pat 5th) = 8
Dota 2 (Brad 1st) = 20
Destiny (Brad 2nd, Drew 8th) = 18
The Fall (Vinny 2nd) = 15
Far Cry 4 (Brad 5th, Dan 2nd, Jeff 2nd) = 38
Fates Forever (Drew 2nd) = 15
GTAV (Brad 9th) = 2
Hack ‘n’ Slash (Vinny 10th) = 1
Hearthstone (Alex 3rd, Drew 6th) = 18
Jazzpunk (Alex 1st, Jeff 9th, Vinny 5th) = 30
Lethal League (Jeff 8th) = 3
Luftrausers (Jeff 4th, Vinny 8th) = 13
Kentucky Route Zero (Pat 3rd) = 12
Mario Kart 8 (Alex 6th, Dan 4th) = 16
MGSV Ground Zeroes (Brad 8th, Dan 5th) = 11
NaissanceE (Drew 5th) = 8
Nidhogg (Vinny 7th) = 4
PT (Pat 2nd) = 15
South Park (Alex 5th, Brad 3rd, Dan 9th, Vinny 3rd) = 34
Shadow of Mordor (Alex 8th, Brad 4th, Dan 1st, Drew 9th, Jeff 3rd, Pat 4th, Vinny 1st) = 77
Shovel Knight (Alex 7th, Dan 6th, Drew 10th, Pat 9th) = 13
Smash Bros (Dan 7th) = 4
Sunset Overdrive (Brad 7th, Dan 8th) = 7
This War of Mine (Drew 3rd) = 12
Threes (Dan 10th) = 1
Titanfall (Jeff 7th) = 4
Transistor (Brad 6th) = 6
Trials Fusion (Jeff 10th) = 1
The Uncle Who Works for Nintendo (Alex 9th) = 2
Valiant Hearts (Drew 4th) = 10
Wolfenstein (Alex 10th, Drew 1st) = 21
Tainted
Member
Which game do you suggest should ? I said earlier, Mordor appears on ALL of their top 10 lists...no other game in the overall top 10 did.
TheBaronOfNA
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you did the hard stuff here's the games by points
Code:
Rank Points Game
1 77 Shadow of Mordor (Alex 8th, Brad 4th, Dan 1st, Drew 9th, Jeff 3rd, Pat 4th, Vinny 1st)
2 53 Bayonetta 2 (Alex 2nd, Dan 3rd, Jeff 6th, Pat 1st)
3 38 Far Cry 4 (Brad 5th, Dan 2nd, Jeff 2nd)
4 34 South Park (Alex 5th, Brad 3rd, Dan 9th, Vinny 3rd)
5 30 Jazzpunk (Alex 1st, Jeff 9th, Vinny 5th)
6 21 Wolfenstein (Alex 10th, Drew 1st)
7 20 COD AW (Jeff 1st)
8 18 Destiny (Brad 2nd, Drew 8th)
8 18 Hearthstone (Alex 3rd, Drew 6th)
9 16 Mario Kart 8 (Alex 6th, Dan 4th)
10 15 The Fall (Vinny 2nd)
10 15 Fates Forever (Drew 2nd)
10 15 PT (Pat 2nd)
11 13 Luftrausers (Jeff 4th, Vinny 8th)
11 13 Shovel Knight (Alex 7th, Dan 6th, Drew 10th, Pat 9th)
12 12 Kentucky Route Zero (Pat 3rd)
12 12 This War of Mine (Drew 3rd)
13 11 MGSV Ground Zeroes (Brad 8th, Dan 5th)
14 10 Dark Souls 2 (Vinny 4th)
14 10 Dota 2 (Brad 1st)
14 10 Valiant Hearts (Drew 4th)
15 8 The Banner Saga (Pat 6th, Vinny 9th)
15 8 Diablo 3 UEE (Jeff 5th)
15 8 Divinity: Original Sin (Pat 5th)
15 8 NaissanceE (Drew 5th)
16 7 Alien Isolation (Drew 7th, Pat 8th)
16 7 Sunset Overdrive (Brad 7th, Dan 8th)
17 6 Broken Age: Act I (Vinny 6th)
17 6 Transistor (Brad 6th)
18 4 Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Pat 7th)
18 4 Nidhogg (Vinny 7th)
18 4 Smash Bros (Dan 7th)
18 4 Titanfall (Jeff 7th)
19 3 Lethal League (Jeff 8th)
20 2 GTAV (Brad 9th)
20 2 The Uncle Who Works for Nintendo (Alex 9th)
21 1 The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Pat 10th)
21 1 Crypt of the Necrodancer (Brad 10th)
21 1 Hack ‘n’ Slash (Vinny 10th)
21 1 Threes (Dan 10th)
21 1 Trials Fusion (Jeff 10th)I've played almost 70 hours of destiny and I was completely baffled by brads talking points about the game. Talk about insanely hyperbolic. The story missions absolutely don't get better as you get higher, they just throw more enemies at you with bigger health bars.
There are like 6 modifiers in total and really don't impact the gameplay in a super meaningful way.
I think the best things about the game are its gameplay and the raid. All the other things he was saying were completely nuts.
There are like 6 modifiers in total and really don't impact the gameplay in a super meaningful way.
I think the best things about the game are its gameplay and the raid. All the other things he was saying were completely nuts.
Tainted
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I think the argument about how the knives are thrown in Wolfenstein was clutching at straws.....but hey, he managed to get his game into the top 10 lol
CosmicQueso
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Nice science work guys.
Tainted
Member
Pretty damn close to what they ended up with....except for poor ol' Wolfenstein and Jeff's master stroke with CoD. Drew let me down on the Wolfenstein defence force
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Nearing the final hour of today's cast, and I'm really enjoying this discussion.
That Dragon Age discussion was pretty cathartic. They really dug right into what's wrong with that game and why it really doesn't deserve any special recognition.
And after hearing Brad and Jeff's opening commentary about Destiny, I can totally see why it would be included in their top 10.
Having just listened to that section:
Shitty combat.
Mostly uninteresting characters.
World and story doesn't do a great job drawing you in.
A lot of things are poorly explained (the establishment of the Inquisition, for example).
Spamming the ping button is not fun.
Side content is crap. Too much of it.
The world feels disconnected.
Poor game design to open the with the Hinterlands.
Lots of weird little bugs and character placement issues.
Healing system sucks.
Having to go back to your base to use the War Room was frustrating, especially with no fast travel directly to the room.
Navigating the environments can be frustrating at times/easy to get stuck on environmental objects.
There was probably more.
That Dragon Age discussion was pretty cathartic. They really dug right into what's wrong with that game and why it really doesn't deserve any special recognition.
And after hearing Brad and Jeff's opening commentary about Destiny, I can totally see why it would be included in their top 10.
Having just listened to that section:
Shitty combat.
Mostly uninteresting characters.
World and story doesn't do a great job drawing you in.
A lot of things are poorly explained (the establishment of the Inquisition, for example).
Spamming the ping button is not fun.
Side content is crap. Too much of it.
The world feels disconnected.
Poor game design to open the with the Hinterlands.
Lots of weird little bugs and character placement issues.
Healing system sucks.
Having to go back to your base to use the War Room was frustrating, especially with no fast travel directly to the room.
Navigating the environments can be frustrating at times/easy to get stuck on environmental objects.
There was probably more.
Tainted
Member
I think the one thing which hurt Dragon Age (at least with the bombcrew) was the fact it was released not too long ago and it is epic-ly long. None of them really had as much time to sink their teeth into it (with the exception of Jeff...but I think that was more to do with him watching his GF play)
Vire
Member
That's actually kind of impressive how close it ended up being to the actual list.
They did a good job.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I remember that video from the "Bayonetta 2 didn't won a TGA".
"This game sucks because I intentionally played in a way that was not fun."
what is TGA?
1. Shadow of Mordor (Alex 8th, Brad 4th, Dan 1st, Drew 9th, Jeff 3rd, Pat 4th, Vinny 1st) = 77
2. Bayonetta 2 (Alex 2nd, Dan 3rd, Jeff 6th, Pat 1st) = 53
3. Far Cry 4 (Brad 5th, Dan 2nd, Jeff 2nd) = 38
4. South Park (Alex 5th, Brad 3rd, Dan 9th, Vinny 3rd) = 34
5. Jazzpunk (Alex 1st, Jeff 9th, Vinny 5th) = 30
6. Wolfenstein (Alex 10th, Drew 1st) = 21
7. COD AW (Jeff 1st) = 20
7. Dota 2 (Brad 1st)
9. Destiny (Brad 2nd, Drew 8th) = 18
9. Hearthstone (Alex 3rd, Drew 6th) = 18
11. Mario Kart 8 (Alex 6th, Dan 4th) = 16
12. The Fall (Vinny 2nd) = 15
12. Fates Forever (Drew 2nd) = 15
12. PT (Pat 2nd) = 15
15. Luftrausers (Jeff 4th, Vinny 8th) = 13
15. Shovel Knight (Alex 7th, Dan 6th, Drew 10th, Pat 9th) = 13
17. Kentucky Route Zero (Pat 3rd) = 12
17. This War of Mine (Drew 3rd) = 12
19. MGSV Ground Zeroes (Brad 8th, Dan 5th) = 11
20. Dark Souls 2 (Vinny 4th) = 10
20. Valiant Hearts (Drew 4th) = 10
22. The Banner Saga (Pat 6th, Vinny 9th) = 8
22. Diablo 3 UEE (Jeff 5th) = 8
22. Divinity: Original Sin (Pat 5th) = 8
22. NaissanceE (Drew 5th) = 8
26. Alien Isolation (Drew 7th, Pat 8th) = 7
26. Sunset Overdrive (Brad 7th, Dan 8th) = 7
28. Broken Age: Act I (Vinny 6th) = 6
28. Transistor (Brad 6th) = 6
30. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Pat 7th) = 4
30. Nidhogg (Vinny 7th) = 4
30. Smash Bros (Dan 7th) = 4
30. Titanfall (Jeff 7th) = 4
34. Lethal League (Jeff 8th) = 3
35. GTAV (Brad 9th) = 2
35. The Uncle Who Works for Nintendo (Alex 9th) = 2
36. The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Pat 10th) = 1
36. Crypt of the Necrodancer (Brad 10th) = 1
36. Hack n Slash (Vinny 10th) = 1
36. Threes (Dan 10th) = 1
36. Trials Fusion (Jeff 10th) = 1
2. Bayonetta 2 (Alex 2nd, Dan 3rd, Jeff 6th, Pat 1st) = 53
3. Far Cry 4 (Brad 5th, Dan 2nd, Jeff 2nd) = 38
4. South Park (Alex 5th, Brad 3rd, Dan 9th, Vinny 3rd) = 34
5. Jazzpunk (Alex 1st, Jeff 9th, Vinny 5th) = 30
6. Wolfenstein (Alex 10th, Drew 1st) = 21
7. COD AW (Jeff 1st) = 20
7. Dota 2 (Brad 1st)
9. Destiny (Brad 2nd, Drew 8th) = 18
9. Hearthstone (Alex 3rd, Drew 6th) = 18
11. Mario Kart 8 (Alex 6th, Dan 4th) = 16
12. The Fall (Vinny 2nd) = 15
12. Fates Forever (Drew 2nd) = 15
12. PT (Pat 2nd) = 15
15. Luftrausers (Jeff 4th, Vinny 8th) = 13
15. Shovel Knight (Alex 7th, Dan 6th, Drew 10th, Pat 9th) = 13
17. Kentucky Route Zero (Pat 3rd) = 12
17. This War of Mine (Drew 3rd) = 12
19. MGSV Ground Zeroes (Brad 8th, Dan 5th) = 11
20. Dark Souls 2 (Vinny 4th) = 10
20. Valiant Hearts (Drew 4th) = 10
22. The Banner Saga (Pat 6th, Vinny 9th) = 8
22. Diablo 3 UEE (Jeff 5th) = 8
22. Divinity: Original Sin (Pat 5th) = 8
22. NaissanceE (Drew 5th) = 8
26. Alien Isolation (Drew 7th, Pat 8th) = 7
26. Sunset Overdrive (Brad 7th, Dan 8th) = 7
28. Broken Age: Act I (Vinny 6th) = 6
28. Transistor (Brad 6th) = 6
30. Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker (Pat 7th) = 4
30. Nidhogg (Vinny 7th) = 4
30. Smash Bros (Dan 7th) = 4
30. Titanfall (Jeff 7th) = 4
34. Lethal League (Jeff 8th) = 3
35. GTAV (Brad 9th) = 2
35. The Uncle Who Works for Nintendo (Alex 9th) = 2
36. The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth (Pat 10th) = 1
36. Crypt of the Necrodancer (Brad 10th) = 1
36. Hack n Slash (Vinny 10th) = 1
36. Threes (Dan 10th) = 1
36. Trials Fusion (Jeff 10th) = 1
krameriffic
Member
Drew's niceness means that he doesn't fight for things. He has by far the least forceful personality of anyone on the crew. Shovel Knight seems to be the one that snuck in. It wasn't particularly high on anyone's list, but it was on a lot of people's lists.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
"The Games Awards".