I don't really listen to GB much nowadays, but it is just me or does it seem like Jeff gertsmann doesn't really like most games any more? it seems like he forces himself to say good things about the games that are highly praised because he feels he has to? I often feel the same way around my "gamer" friends because they love games that I think are complete garbage. I just feel bad for him =[
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Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
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bigwinnerx
Member
See, you're reaching good conclusions now. Well done.
They should have made it work at launch.
Ingueferroque
Banned
Not sure if any developer should be 'punished' for actively improving a game. I'm sure if they were aware the netcode was broken they would not have released it.
I wasn't really responding to whatever reaction GB has towards DC, did it get mentioned recently or something?
The game' being exclusive to a single platform obviously has a lot to do with the crazy rift between people that actually played it, those that don't even have a PS4, and the ones that just use 'dc is bad lol' on a meme level. I can't help but chime in whenever I see someone spreading misinformation in a thread.
People are so weirdly aggressive regarding DriveClub. It's just crazy to me.
LurkerPrime
Member
The thing is about Drive Club is that it isn't actually about a club of people racing or anything like that, it's actually a club! This particular club is of the bludgeoning variety, and it's mainly used on Jeff. (Edit: I forgot to mention, the "drive club" is actually a drive shaft. But that term doesn't really have the same majesty...)
Poor Jeff.
Poor Jeff.
ShockingAlberto
Member
*looks at thread title*
Describing fixing a broken/unfinished game as "actively improving the game" might be the saddest thing I've heard this year.
Ingueferroque
Banned
It's hard for me to enjoy listening to someone sigh, whinge and whine about games. This is not politics, it's games.. I will miss Patrick's enthusiasm and fair criticism.
Jeff's dismissal (once activated) is just so severe, where he just refuses to see any positive in a game. I remember him completely dismissing/ignoring/being repelled from Monster Hunter, Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, ...
But this is just wrong?
The only thing broken was the netcode. And you won't hear me defend that.
All the other things? Balancing, new features, improved IQ, weather,... these are not 'patches', Weather, Photo Mode, (Replays) were never promised for release day. The devs were pretty clear about those things coming after launch.
The IQ was fine at release, they just improved it. Same about the sound engine, which received massive improvements recently. These were not elements they were criticized on, but they still made big upgrades here.
So how is it 'sad'? They are 'actively improving a game'.
Do you consider Minecraft as being broken/unfinished just because Mojang keeps improving it on a monthly basis? (extreme example)
Hey, I love criticism! It's the basis of any worthwhile discussion. But with Jeff it mostly seems to get expressed by sighing, and extreme, blanket, dismissal. It just doesn't lend itself to a great conversation outside of the comedic value.
LurkerPrime
Member
Jeff is vocal about what he dislikes. This is not a bad thing. It lets viewers/readers understand his biases and tastes, which helps to better inform their opinion.
Agree or disagree, there can be no doubt that Jeff puts a lot of care, thought, and effort into his work as a Giant Bomber.
The Drive Club is my favorite weapon in Dark Souls. Actually, the Scud Mace is pretty good too.
Jeff is pretty negative yeah. I feel he's been doing this stuff for long enough where he's not super excited one way or the other about most games, as he knows how this goes and how hype can be dashed (Destiny). I still really like him, because he is super honest.
Infinite Justice
Member
Wolfenstein was fucking robbed.
Brad fillbuster strikes again i guess.
Brad fillbuster strikes again i guess.
TharpDaddy
Member
It's been a hard couple months for Drew. First MCC is broken and then his #1 game was denied from being in the top 10.
Tainted
Member
People always want to see their favourite games represented in GB's lists but personally I do not give 2 shits about Mordor, Bayonetta 2, Hearthstone, Mario Kart 8 or Destiny.
I respect that the GB guys do though (and in Destiny's case just Brad), after all, this is their list and not mine. It doesn't change how much I enjoyed my picks for 2014
EmCeeGramr
Member
The fact that it was Drew's favorite game of 2014 (that most of the others liked) that got bumped off because Brad wanted "his" game, reminded me of a kid upset that they didn't get the "right" slice of pizza or cake at the birthday party, and getting upset until a nicer kid offers to trade theirs.
YuriLowell
Member
This. I don't think any of brad's arguments were very good for defending Destiny, and it really seemed like he was throwing a tantrum.
This is true of both sides. No, I didn't like the game. I didnt like the handling, or the ridiculous penalties and the online features were a disaster before I convinced Amazon to give me a full refund. I found FH2 to be a much better product. This apparently enrages a very vocal, tiny minority and puts them in a frothy rage. There's been multiple times (not here because I think people know it would be bannable) where people have claimed I'm an idiot and a troll, etc. I mean, God damn folks, I didn't like a game you like. Chill out.
I wouldn't mind trying it now after all of its recent updates and fixes and such, but I'm not paying for it. If they ever release the PS+ version I'll download and see what's up. If not then I guess I'll just miss out, and maybe jump on a theoretical DC2 if it is made.
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Deleted member 17706
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I didn't agree with Brad, but if he was that passionate about it (which he was), I think it deserved to have a spot on the list. The GB Game of the Year discussions have never really been about having a consensus.
Brad trying to spin that Destiny's lack of content means that it's "so good that people want more of it" was far worse.
"Seemed" nothing, that's precisely what it was.
If they actually cared about being objective they would just make a weighted list with their own personal top 10s to make up the overall list. The drama makes for a good podcast and having fits at what happened regarding so-and-so game just proves they were successful at creating that drama.
WrenchNinja
Member
Jeffs Destiny rant during episode 2 was amazing. I'm surprised Brad stayed silent during all of it.
4 games actually.
Bayo2, Mario Kart, Hearthstone and Jazzpunk.
He didn't have to fight for Bayo 2 and didn't think Mario Kart had a chance, yet got on the list anyway.
It seemed like Jeff mostly wanted Destiny on the list to prove a point about 2014 being so bad a year that the most disappointing game of the year can still make the top 10.
Tainted
Member
...and Jeff got CoD on the list through his own admission simply because of the exoskeleton. Not only did he get it onto the list, but managed to push it to #4
Well played Jeff
LurkerPrime
Member
Calling it now: there will be a new category next year: 2015's it's not 2014 anymore award for 11th, 12th, & 13th best games of the year.
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
Can I get a Vinny, Dan, Jason, Drew only Game of the Year Chat?
I cant take another year of..
Kleptick and all of his typical inherent, what it tries to do, for what it is, fundementally overused try to sound scholarly catchphrases...Alex with his Im okay with allowing that on the list goat voice stance that everyone ignores.. Gertsmann with his crabby "i dont like that game AT ALL", this is popular so I have to hate it and champion shit because its "dumb" shtick..and Brad..who was surprisingly tolerable this year.
I cant take another year of..
Kleptick and all of his typical inherent, what it tries to do, for what it is, fundementally overused try to sound scholarly catchphrases...Alex with his Im okay with allowing that on the list goat voice stance that everyone ignores.. Gertsmann with his crabby "i dont like that game AT ALL", this is popular so I have to hate it and champion shit because its "dumb" shtick..and Brad..who was surprisingly tolerable this year.
LurkerPrime
Member
Tainted
Member
Could you be any more insulting in the one post ?
HIGH DEF JEFF
Banned
Insulting?
More like accurate.
For what his input is and what he tries to do, I wont miss him.
bigwinnerx
Member
Let's not try to judge anyone acting scholarly with this bullshit.
You are literally insulting them to be fair.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Someone's opinion on video games shouldn't infuriate you.
It's not his opinion so much but how obnoxious and hypocritical some of the discussion came across as.
Fun and exhausting round of podcasts.
Thanks for all the work, its a good way of discovering some smaller gems I overlooked.
Godspeed to Patrick. I really liked the Dump Truck stuff but I have to admit that it was a bit weird to see his little beard stare at me everytime I check the GB youtube channel.
Thanks for all the work, its a good way of discovering some smaller gems I overlooked.
Godspeed to Patrick. I really liked the Dump Truck stuff but I have to admit that it was a bit weird to see his little beard stare at me everytime I check the GB youtube channel.
LurkerPrime
Member
Patrick championed Divinity: Original Sin during the GotY podcast. He is a hero amongst men.
Still bummed that game never made the top ten. Totally deserved it.
meanspartan
Member
Equating Destiny with Diablo because they both have loot is very lame.
LurkerPrime
Member
Brad had to explain away the grind somehow. This is the
dark, terrible, twisted
meanspartan
Member
Sure, but, it kinda seemed like Brad was tearing down other superior games for the purpose of brute forcing Destiny onto the top ten.
At one point, Wolfenstein clearly outvoted Destiny in the discussion and yet, didn't make the list.
I also almost gave up on Destiny pre lvl20. Post lvl20 is when the game felt good. But Brad is defending the Destiny that exists now. Destiny after all these patches:
- Level 31 gear is available in any faction at the tower. Before you needed RNG for Vault of Glass just to get level 30 gear.
- Carry 10 bounties instead of 5, less visits to the tower. Bounties offer extra rewards.
- Voice chat is accessible in Crucible and Vanguard Strikes. If you can't find people for Raids, ask the strangers you're playing with.
- legendary and exotics engrams are easier to gain than before.
- spirit blooms, iron relics, helium coils, spin metals can be purchased with vanguard or crucible marks so you don't have to do so much grinding
None of these things existed when it launched which sounds like what everyone else was playing then. . . except Brad.
meanspartan
Member
Reaper of Souls was pretty much dismissed even though most of them like it. What the fuck was that? I don't even think it HAS to be on the top 10, but the way they dismissed it while Brad waged a war of attrition for fuckinf Destiny was ridiculous.
Ninja Scooter
Member
But he doesn't like Mario Kart, so it's not s superior game to him. There isn't an exact science to these lists. It's a group of people trying to come up with a fairly arbitrary list of the top 10 games of the year. As many of the guys mentioned, at some point it becomes a concession about how passionate you are about a game. This is why Jazzpunk made it despite Alex being really the only guy championing it. Same thing with Brad and Destiny.
Well he didn't insult four of them. So he could be 100% more insulting.
May as well knock Drew and Vinny off as well given they admittedly played damn near nothing this year.
So all you are left with is a Dan/Jason cast...I guess Nintendo fans would be pleased.
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Deleted member 17706
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Again, it's about the games for which they are passionate. Only really Jeff got into Reaper of Souls for any lengthy amount of time.
nobodyshero
Banned
How about you just stop visiting the site? Seems it might not be for you.