Shovel knight getting on the list as well. I can't say i remember any of them talking about it though i watched Patrick's morning show infrequently.
Giant Bomb GOTY 2014 - Destiny Has Brought Us Here
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Shovel knight getting on the list as well. I can't say i remember any of them talking about it though i watched Patrick's morning show infrequently.
Sounded to me like Jeff liked the idea of putting a halfbaked game like Destiny on the list to represent what a shitty year it's been for gaming over putting a good game he didn't feel strongly about either way on there. Pretty sure he said as much at some point. Can't say I agree on either fronts, but it's their site/awards and at least they put the convoluted discussions out there.
I feel Brad is lying about the Destiny endgame by saying it's incredibly different and makes the game great. It's taking advantage of the other members of the crew who despise the game so much they didn't want to put themselves through the grind abuse that is the endgame and now have to take Brad's word on faith. And if he truly believes the endgame is great then that's a problem too.
And Jeff just wants to see the world burn and prove a point about the year being bad, to see both Destiny in most disappointing and top 10 helps that.
And Jeff just wants to see the world burn and prove a point about the year being bad, to see both Destiny in most disappointing and top 10 helps that.
LurkerPrime
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To understand Brad's perspective you'd need to play ten thousand hours of DotA 2. Then, after compeltely losing all perspective, you could truly understand what makes the great games great.
Not wanting to put 15-20 hours into something not fun to get something that may be fun is a completely valid argument. At that point, the endgame needs to be really fucking good (which I didn't get from Brad's arguments because he comes across as an addict with regards to that game).
lol
It did.
Hmmm
Leafhopper
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I haven't listened to the podcasts, not sure if I even will, but I saw the recaps. Their choices seemed to be the most safe ones. Most disappointing game going to Watch Dogs was funny to me though. And Destiny being no where at all in the thing struck me as odd, I figured it would have gotten some odd category winner such as "Newest timesink" or something.
Not sure if I would go that far, but I must admit that this year's GOTY podcasts kinda tainted his reputation for me.
Dan's videos were fantastic. In spite of whatever one might think of his naivete about some things, he is a go-getter.
ShodanMAN
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Just had a look, yeah your totally right they did make it best debut. I was put off with the general consensus of that podcast being it was ''best debut system, not best debut game''.
Leafhopper
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I guess I need to listen to the podcasts because I didn't hear Destiny mentioned in anything of the Recap videos.
The recap videos only show the winners. Destiny was number 10 on the final list. The articles and podcasts have all of the runners-up while the videos don't.
It did get Best Debut. But it shouldn't have. It's the Lord of the Fucking Rings.
Part of Brads annual tradition of bitching and moaning to get something onto the list that shouldn't be there.
Happens literally every year.
BolognaSoup
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Agreed. I'm really starting to sour on him and Brad both. When Patrick and Dan applaud Smash for best multiplayer getting on the list and he says "Yay, celebrating BAD games..." Like just shut the hell up man. His disdain for seemingly all things Nintendo is getting so old he's becoming like a parody of himself. Everytime anyone says something positive about a Wii U game he lets out the most obnoxious, childish sigh and dismissive attitude. It's one thing to not be into something like Smash, but you're going to honestly sit there and call it a BAD game? Really? Yet Divekick was a top 10 of the year...
https://twitter.com/bradshoemaker/status/543128821440851968
I mean yeah, specifically the last one. You kicked a bunch of more worthy games in the face like A GOD DAMN BULLY.
I mean yeah, specifically the last one. You kicked a bunch of more worthy games in the face like A GOD DAMN BULLY.
Yeah he's overly negative about Nintendo and not in a fun Yoshi ranting kind of way. Fine if he genuinely think they are terrible etc but he's doesn't even try to be funny about it half the time.
Bayonetta 2 was pretty high on his personal list this year and I think he enjoyed the 3d world and galaxy mario games as well. You can be fond of nintendo and not like smash or mario kart.
Ingueferroque
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He is like this about A LOT of games, not just Nintendo games. He is the Carrie Mathison of games journalism.
nobodyshero
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Yeah, I think he's open to liking Nintendo games, but the sheer aesthetic clearly isn't for him.
Still, despite Bayonetta being high on his list you'd be hard pressed to find much footage of him actually praising the game. He just isn't like that, he isn't a gushy person (unless he's reminiscing about older games). Even Call of Duty, while he talked about positively, it was always with the tinge of surprise that he's talking about a CoD game. He rarely ever full on gushed about it the same way the others can.
Junior Mint
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GB is just like a sitcom. Everyone starts out with their own grounded quirks and as the seasons go on, each character plays more and more into the things that audiences like them for (Joey in Friends, everyone in Seinfeld) until they become caricatures of their former selves. I've followed them for a long time so it's pretty clear to me that Jeff is just playing it up to get laughs but I can see how people get put off by it.
Ninja Scooter
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If you don't like a game, that makes it a bad game. What do you want him to say? "I can't stand Smash brothers and have no interest in playing it...but it's a good game!" That's how everyone's subjectivity works. It's just that people find a reason for backlash when that opinion is targeted at a popular title or something they like.
Meh, if he doesn't like Smash, he doesn't like Smash. I think he understands why people like it but those games don't click with him and I think anyone who's been listening to the bombcast for any length of time knows that so expecting him to gush over the Smash games is a little silly at this point.
Infinite Justice
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BreezyLimbo
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Jaffe is salty. I dunno what part he's referring to, I don't remember the guys bashing his uh, new game.
Ninja Scooter
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IIRC they really bashed the art style, but it's a very divisive art style. I personally like it but I can see where it's going to turn a lot of people off.
Mohonky
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Is this Jaffe being a whiny little bitch again?
BolognaSoup
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News to me.
I don't like Crusader Kings 2. It's not for me. I just now learned that means it's also a bad game.
JawesomeJaw
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So we not seeing Jaffe at the E3 aftershow this year then?
I still like Jeff but it's pretty clear he doesn't really like games all that much anymore, despite being incredibly knowledgeable about them. I remember on a podcast shortly after Ryan Davis passed last year he said he and Ryan had been thinking of getting out this "Dumb video game shit" and move onto something else which I forget what he said it was.
BreezyLimbo
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Well, I can see where they're coming from. The art style doesn't really help it in trying to be...a competitive shooter. And the gameplay...looks average atleast. Maybe the simplicity makes it fun, but I'm not sold on it. He should stick to Twisted Metal.
Infinite Justice
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Which is pretty damning given some of the stuff Dan shown to like.
Anyways Jaffe should concentrate and making his game fucking good rather than getting all salty on social media. Let the game speak for itself
He said many times if he didn't like doing what he does he'd stop. Just because he dislikes games others love doesn't mean he hates everything. I disagree with a lot of his opinions but he's entitled to them. What I don't understand is why people take such great offense to what he thinks.
Nidhogg is on PS4 and the Fall is on Wii U if you have either of those.
nckillthegrimace
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To be fair, Patrick kind of crossed the line in my opinion. He got really personal for no reason.
Oh cool, I do have both of those. Are they coming to vita at any time though?
Infinite Justice
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Because his thinking usually steps on their toes since they like the thing he doesn't like
