Sony announces 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles sold WW

xxracerxx said:
Hahaha, what? Link?
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You'll be laughing out of the other side of your face once the next SDK unlocks the second GPU.

I think The Artisan is just confused about what the latest SDK provided. Previously, 2 of the 8 Jaguar CPU cores were reserved and locked away from games. Now, as long as certain caveats are met, like implementing Kinect voice commands in your game rather then relying on the system functions, you can have 50-80% of one of the two reserved cores, and that extra is burstable, so not guaranteed by the system. It will certainly provide a handful more GFLOPS CPU performance for games to use, but devs have to do a lot of work before they can claim it.
 
theprodigy said:
it's funny how you're extrapolating US=world in a thread that shows how it doesn't work

the rest of the world favors PS3, and while the built-in lean is probably too much to bring it to 50/50, it is definitely closer than 60/40

(plus CoD peaked at ~26m)
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The giant bomb number isn't US only. that was total. NPD is a US only outfit, but gets quoted because there is no similar service for the EU.

and modern warfare 2 sold 22 million copies TOTAL across all platforms, so the giant bomb number for PS3/360 looks accurate.

Responding to a question regarding the unit sales differences between Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and Call of Duty: Black Ops, Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg revealed that Treyarch's latest title has now achieved 25 million units since launching in November 2010. Modern Warfare 2, he said, has sold 22 million units since it was released in November 2009.
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http://www.shacknews.com/article/69577/activision-reveals-sales-figures-black-ops-and-modern-warfare-2

The series has never sold particularly well on PS3- it's a multiplayer focused title, and in 2009 PSN was abysmal. no built in voice chat, no cross game chat, nothing. Live obliterated it then and is STILL better. It's not much of a stretch to come to the conclusion that the majority of console sales were on 360 and stayed there.
 
The Artisan said:
not to mention, Microsoft's doing everything they can to make the xbone more powerful. 10% GPU boost sans kinect, sdk offers 80% more cpu power. not to mention they haven't even started applying dx12 to the xbone yet.
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Not even going to answer this. Even you know how dumb this post is.

again... the Ps3 was winning worldwide last gen too wasn't it? but the 360's popularity was SO strong last gen in the U.S that it was still able to maintain its TOTAL sales above the Ps3s. in other words, the U.S was carrying the 360, and it was working. who's to say it won't work again now with the xbone?
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The PS3 launched a year later in the U.S. and 18 months later in Europe. It still managed to outsell the 360 over there and catch up in total sales WW. The XB1 doesn't have those advantages anymore and PS4 has been selling more since day one.

What conclusion can you make from this?
 
WhiskerFrisker said:
Which is already so little that it's negible compared to U.S/UK numbers.
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It doesn't matter how "negligible" they are. They are terrible numbers in comparison to the PS4, but still add up as a whole. If numbers outside the U.S. are between 33-37% of it's total that would put that number between 900k-1million.
 
Teletraan1 said:
Pretty impressive it is selling at that rate. Sure it didn't beat the Wii in raw numbers but for its comparative price point and lack of Ellen buzz selling to people normally outside of the market for such a device its sales are impressive. It sold to mostly gamers with a high attach rate at a moderate price at a really good clip. Good job.
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Do we know that for sure? How many PS4's are shipped?
 
Neff said:
This all sounds a bit console warrior-esque (not to mention being packed with defensive sarcasm, assumption and hyperbole), so I have reservations about replying to it, but FYI I'm not actually upset about PS4, or Sony's approach with it. It's a fine console and I'm glad I bought one. I'm merely noting the disproportion between what they're offering, which is sub-par in terms of hardware power and software compared to previous generations of Playstation, and their insistent, relatively empty boasts.

But hey, like I said, it's working. More power to them.
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Ok we agree to disagree. You seem to forget the Sony of 2006. If you compare them to now, they deserved what they have achieved, relatively speaking. It sure didnt help that MS flunked their pre-release and their atrocious screwy PR made them lose alot of gamer's minds and mind share. I think they made the best call to offer the hardware they have now for $400. Thats the best call Sony ever did this gen. When comparing it to Xbone, they lose every time as show by sales these past few months.

Also are you really sure you want to complain about the hardware when you compare it to XB1? Sure they could have released a better system. Would it have been worth it to them? I dont know. Im sure they want to stay away from $500/$600 price points, dont you think? Also they offer more developers a friendly environment or easier for them to develop their games on the platform. If that isnt a goodwill to gamers either then I dont know what else to say. More games available to your player base is a great thing.

Edit: The reason my response to you in a sarcastic tone was because your own post was nutty. Who "deserves" success if you compared all 3 major companies in your eyes? If MS had taken advantage of their 360 Hype Train, I would've been like "these guys broke the 3rd gen curse and deserve all credit and success!" alas that wasnt that case.
 
I always liked how PS4 sales threads brings out the best of old call of duty sales discussion, Wii discussion and X1 secret sauce discussion

Who knows what brings the discussion to these areas. People just have to jump in and do what they can to diminish the sales announcement I guess.

18.5 is great considering most around here thought 15-16 was going to be the number. There was a whole prediction thread about it. Wonder if we can dig that thread up ...
 
RespectThySole said:
It doesn't matter how "negligible" they are. They are terrible numbers in comparison to the PS4, but still add up as a whole. If numbers outside the U.S. are between 33-37% of it's total that would put that number between 900k-1million.
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Sony pr started 23rd Nov so you can't take all of Novembers numbers.
 
Game4life said:
Do we know that for sure? How many PS4's are shipped?
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Prob 20m. I have absolute zero belief that there are less than 1.5m consoles on distribution centers and retailer warehouses right now.

So about 1.5m-2m in the channels...my guess. If there were less than 1m shortages would start to show up and we would hear about it.
 
Occam said:
Funny, specifically the bolded part.

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Nah I always enjoy seeing that one dude getting quoted every page
 
The Artisan said:
well the 360 technically had weaker hardware too, but it was kicking the Ps3's ass for a really long time.

not to mention, Microsoft's doing everything they can to make the xbone more powerful. 10% GPU boost sans kinect, sdk offers 80% more cpu power. not to mention they haven't even started applying dx12 to the xbone yet.

why did you buy two?



again... the Ps3 was winning worldwide last gen too wasn't it? but the 360's popularity was SO strong last gen in the U.S that it was still able to maintain its TOTAL sales above the Ps3s. in other words, the U.S was carrying the 360, and it was working. who's to say it won't work again now with the xbone?
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Is this post sarcasm?
 
Manmademan said:
The giant bomb number isn't US only. that was total. NPD is a US only outfit, but gets quoted because there is no similar service for the EU.

and modern warfare 2 sold 22 million copies TOTAL across all platforms, so the giant bomb number for PS3/360 looks accurate.



http://www.shacknews.com/article/69577/activision-reveals-sales-figures-black-ops-and-modern-warfare-2

The series has never sold particularly well on PS3- it's a multiplayer focused title, and in 2009 PSN was abysmal. no built in voice chat, no cross game chat, nothing. Live obliterated it then and is STILL better. It's not much of a stretch to come to the conclusion that the majority of console sales were on 360 and stayed there.
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I don't doubt the 19m figure what I doubt is the 5M PS3 figure.
 
Manmademan said:
The giant bomb number isn't US only. that was total. NPD is a US only outfit, but gets quoted because there is no similar service for the EU.

and modern warfare 2 sold 22 million copies TOTAL across all platforms, so the giant bomb number for PS3/360 looks accurate.
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what?

gfk, a market research institute considerably larger than the npd group, tracks retail video game software + hardware sales all across europe.

the gfk group is just notoriously vicious when it comes to anti-leak crackdowns, so there isn't as much of a presence of leakers on neogaf.



and npd is not a usa-only outfit.

the npd group tracks the usa, canada, australia, and new zealand.
 
MrCookiepants said:
You are bad at this and you should stop. CoD sells gagbusters everywhere (even Japan) and the PS3 version was always comfortably on top of the European charts.

This is why NPD is absolutely cancerous for sales discussion. We might as well be using Chartzzz, because they paint a more accurate picture than this warped reality everyone has in their minds.
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Lol

They are always wrong.
 
Crazy number even with no good console games, 1st or 3rd party.
I regret buying my PS4 early though since 2014 almost killed me on console gaming.
I have no clue how the hype manages to carry Sony through bad gaming droughts, and X1 price-cuts to reach that sale number.
 
J-Rzez said:
Unless Sony has an unprecedented screw up (which "probably" can't happen) and MS throws down absolutely monumental amounts of cash (which won't happen due to investors being really upset already)... it's over. This gen is decided.

Considering Sony's first parties will be kicking into gear and their other exclusives this year on out, it's only going to get better for them.
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This. Plus Microsoft's investors aren't going to keep allowing Microsoft to take Xbox One at a loss & flush more money down the toilet in the hopes of outselling Sony. Sooner or later, that's going to come to a screeching halt.
 
The Artisan said:
well the 360 technically had weaker hardware too, but it was kicking the Ps3's ass for a really long time.

not to mention, Microsoft's doing everything they can to make the xbone more powerful. 10% GPU boost sans kinect, sdk offers 80% more cpu power. not to mention they haven't even started applying dx12 to the xbone yet.

why did you buy two?

she's hot

again... the Ps3 was winning worldwide last gen too wasn't it? but the 360's popularity was SO strong last gen in the U.S that it was still able to maintain its TOTAL sales above the Ps3s. in other words, the U.S was carrying the 360, and it was working. who's to say it won't work again now with the xbone?
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Ps4 is eating their lunch right now.

X1 isn't selling bad or anything, but they are losing some portion of their only strong territory to Ps4.
 
Manmademan said:
The series has never sold particularly well on PS3- it's a multiplayer focused title, and in 2009 PSN was abysmal. no built in voice chat, no cross game chat, nothing. Live obliterated it then and is STILL better. It's not much of a stretch to come to the conclusion that the majority of console sales were on 360 and stayed there.
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Just. Stop.

Scroll down and look at Black Ops sales pls (the best selling CoD as everybody knows).

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_November_2010

Call of Duty: Black Ops (PS3) ACTIVISION BLIZZARD ~ 3.1M

That's one region in one month. Your 5-7 million for CoD's worldwide "peak" on PS3 is an absolute fallacy.

Be gone now.

jayu26 said:
Pretty sure he was talking about rhose countries being negligible for Xbone.
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Oh, in that case he would be right then.
 
Occam said:
Just you wait until they start using DX12, it'll easily go up to 150% then! I mean come on, technically they already are at 110%.
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I was told if you spill water on the xbone it will multiply.......


oh..

wait.. thats from a movie..
 
Bam Bam Baklava said:
Already has otherwise 349 would be have been the price right now.
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Yeah them basically raising the price back is a fairly telling sign they took heavy enough losses to give pause. Otherwise, raising the price of your console after over a month long price cut is a bad decision from market share perspective.
 
Manmademan said:
Wiki quotes that number as ps3 only, but their sources aren't great. The best is a giant bomb article that puts it at 19 million between the 360 and PS3 as of august 2010.

http://www.giantbomb.com/modern-warfare-2/3030-24713/

This number appears to be HEAVILY tilted in favor of the Xbox though- Wiki quotes NPD as having the 360's sales at over double the PS3's for the launch month of november.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_of_Duty:_Modern_Warfare_2#cite_note-videogamer1-91

So somewhere around 5-7 million sounds about right, if the 19 million figure is accurate. no way is there a 50/50 split between the two platforms, the 360 was just too dominant in the genre.
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You know US =/= World right?
 
Biker19 said:
Plus Microsoft's investors aren't going to keep allowing Microsoft to take Xbox One at a loss flush more money down the toilet in the hopes of outselling Sony. Sooner or later, that's going to come to a screeching halt.
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While Xbox One isn't selling poorly, I think they kind of needed to be in Sony's position in sales right about now to silence the voices in that company calling for the Xbox Division to close down.

I really do think this is their last shot at making it substantially profitable, or we don't see another Xbox. They took losses for almost a decade only to have the 360 barely making a profit each year (and that isn't enough when you factor in opportunity cost)
 
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