You guys shouldn't read too much into it. It's just the first year. It's not indicative of total sales in the future. There's so many factors that haven't come to play yet to make statements on who will win. Give me a moment to page Ars to make a compelling article about it.
Sony announces 18.5 million PlayStation 4 consoles sold WW
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US - 6-7 million units
UK - 2 million units
Rest of World - 100,000 units
I don't believe they've reached 10 million sold through just yet
UK and US is not 80/90% of XB1 sales, stop being ridiculous.
biglittleps
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They may have stopped big lead with holiday sales but PS4 Lead will increase again to reach(above) 2:1 until E3 (if they don't do anything big in E3 then it will go up to holidays).
Dead Prince
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but the $1200 walkman though.
the new tv they announced at CES would look great with the ps4 right now. but the price though. lol.
It can't. More games were given away than the math would support.
As I said previously I meant UK/EU @ 2 million (I should of edited the post) :/
But at this point i wouldnt be surprised if the US was close to 70% of their sales.
Honestly, even if Microsoft had the same exact numbers or even better numbers (and we know that they don't), Sony should still be very proud and excited about the success of their platform. 18 million in one year is a success no matter the competition.
Still way off, they're above 10m sell through. They may not sell well outside of US/UK but it still sells.
Probably better in Canada, Mexico ect than most European countries actually.
And no US isn't 70% of sales either.
@bold: Like?
It's pretty much a given that PS4 will always dominate in Europe, Japan and ROTW. The only places XB1 even has a fighting chance is the US and UK, both of which are battles they are currently losing. Even if they manage to turn those places around and win by some distance there PS4 has too big of an advantage everywhere else for that to matter.
Do you have any sources at all for all that?
Now here's a post I can get behind.
Chobel
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They did try in US, it's just their offers weren't as good as MS offers.
Nightengale
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Coz made a mistake, it was US (6-7) and UK/Europe (2 mil)
It's not that improbable, given that the recent Europe sales thread kinda implied that the top 5 PAL countries (UK, Germany, France, etc) made up like 90% of XB1 sales.
Looking at what happened with the PS2 a little more than a decade ago, you can logically also be looking at a $299 PS4 for the next Holiday, available with UC4, Bloodborne, No Man's Sky, The Order 1886, Tearaway Unfolded, Until Dawn, Everybody's gone to the Rapture, Rime, The Witness ...
and -Maybe - Gran Turismo 7 (or the Prologue version). I do not even dare mention The Last ... Nevermind.
Sounds like Santa Monica also has stuff to talk about pretty soon...
It also appears like another big new IP is coming this way according to 2014 "leaks", whether by Bend or GG, and might be revealed at E3 for 2015... So #shrug
Read this while we wait for their updated article: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/11/dont-read-too-much-into-the-ps4s-million-day-one-sales/
Nightengale
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How is it 'way off?'
If the maths of US=60% remains, XB1 would need to sell 1.1+ million in US to be at 10 million sell-through.
You sound very confident about this. You must work for Microsoft to know this. /s
Some of us have provided valid and reasonable reasons why the XBO may not have hit 10 million sold through yet. Have you?
And almost 70% is no surprise with the insane bundles
All I see are non-Playstation consoles failing. PS1-PS2-PS3 all had long lasting sales.
Because it has sold more than 2m outside of US/UK that's why. People seem to act like it's been discontinued outside of those two countries.
MS will announce around 12m+ (my prediction) shipments, solidifying that fact.
Bro dig deeper. Read between the lines. Look at paragraph 2, 4, 9, 1, 5, 3, 8, 7, and 6. No just reread the article you'll understand.
They want you to provide compelling evidence like they're doing instead of "just because".
loaf of bread
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So exactly what XB1 deals were like when they won November NPD?
Again, how can you be so sure? Where's your source? And don't call this "valid and reasonable argument"
Saw the edit and this is all your opinion. Give cold hard facts
And BTW, 6.2 million(US)+1.3 million(UK)+2 million (ROTW)= 9.5 million, unless you think it did better in the US
kenji_sama
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Source, please?
It is great news for Sony, consoles and gaming as a whole.
I hope MS also have a better 2015 and they both can really tempt everyone with some more epic treats in a few months at E3 (comes round fast).
That said I feel MS needs to do more as Sony have already a much better 1st party line up that the X1 and I cannot see MS just letting that continue throughout.
The PSN+ subs is a real big business (no doh!) and I see this being pushed more or added to as a confirmed revenue earner.
Amentallica
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How did you manage to see this news as something good for Microsoft? Are you a DJ? Fucking LOL
Chobel
Member
While I agree with it (bold), that's just an educated guess, not necessarily a fact.
In what world is the ps4 dominating Japan?
Smh, these guys never learn do they..
Yeah enough can be gathered to prove that's the case, I'll quote them when I have all of it.
You seem very certain. Please PM me your credentials. Looking forward to vetting another credible source.
Chobel
Member
He means PS4 dominating XB1 in Japan, as in PS4 sales are way higher than XB1.
Nightengale
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MS's deals with largely consistent, and well-advertised/marketed before-hand.
There was one 'big deal' that you could get everywhere, and that was the $50 off. On BF, there was an additional $20 drop.
And then individual retailers had their own extras, but by and large, there was one center pivot, which was the discount.
OTOH, for Sony, one day there was the Target 15% off, then there was the limited Wallmart $50 GC, then there was the different Amazon deals where TLoU came with the 1-game bundle, or the Silver Headset came with it.
It's pretty unfair to make fun of that article. While some of its arguments are a bit flawed, the main point still stands : launch week sales are irrelevant in the life of a console. Hell, even the PS4/Xbox One sales in the US are a testimony of that : both console sold huge amounts at launch, with the One even outselling the PS4 in December afaik. And yet, in the following month, the PS4 "butchered" the One. And now, Microsoft managed to take the lead, most likely for a short while...
Launch week sales really couldn't tell the whole picture.
lol saw this coming from a mile away.
Dead Prince
Banned
aw here we go.
It's my prediction, calm down. I could be very well wrong I'm not stating it as fact.
I've been pretty good with my predictions all year actually. I also think MS easily sold through that 10m shipment announcement they made early November?
The Last One
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I'll try to make some predictions, here we go:
Xbox One sales as of today:
US: 6.3M
UK: 1.7M
So, 8M total units, which means Xbox One must have sold at least 2M units in the ROTW. So, yeah, possible it has reached 10M by now.
But I'm wearing a Knack avatar, you guys shouldn't listen to me.
Bro I did read it and I do understand but I do not agree. It's basing its entire argument on consoles that are not PS consoles. Why would the PS4 suddenly crash and burn, because that's what needs to happen for anything else to stand a chance against it? In one year the gap between the first and second seller is already closing in on 10m. ONE year. PS4 has the world on lockdown, being ahead everywhere (US, Europe, ROTW, Japan). As I said previously, XB1 only has a chance in the US and UK but that isn't enough. WiiU is a non-factor.
ultratruman
Banned
' why don't you take a seat over there? '
Oh so it's only console wars.
Because the statement of "ps4 is dominating xb1 in Japan" is kinda like saying the shield is outselling the ouya.
Chobel
Member
There isn't, unless you have some source which is not public source. Anyway, I wanna these supposed "proofs".
It looks very optimist in both cases.
Audioboxer
Member
Into the lions den. Feed it a juicy steak or be eaten alive.
Against XB1. The ratio there is like 20:1 or more