Apple announces Apple Watch
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Here's a couple of opinions I found without even drudging through the first non-speculative iPhone thread. If I edit out the "fanboy" responses, the majority say "I won't pay FIVE HUNDRED NINETY-NINE US DOLLARS for a phone and only the desperate Apple fanboys would." Some even mention that 10 million estimate and how it was ridiculously optimistic. I'm sure I could dig out some gems from the embarrassment of riches in the makeshift OT formed from the Macworld OT. Would you like me to? I'm sure we can all have a good time pointing and laughing. Hell, I'm pointing and laughing at the first post I linked to below.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6490288&postcount=31
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6495885&postcount=83
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6513286&postcount=96
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5844961&postcount=51
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5847362&postcount=76
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5848362&postcount=77
Computer science and OS user interface are just 2 examples of re-purposing certain language that was irrelevant to what was being created. A window is now a box that has icons in it on a computer screen, I don't hear purists in home design or glaziers balking at the term being used in that way instead of for panes of glass in a wall.
Borrowed terminology is kind of a tech tradition. Getting twisted out of shape about it now seems odd.
What are we supposed to be laughing at? I don't see any consumer/fanboy predicted that Apple would have to give the first iPhone a price cut after 3 months, that was unexpectedly below expectations. In contrast, the iPad didn't need any such price drops and sold much more quicker
ComputerMKII
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Smartwatches are so underwhelming I've started being interested in normal watches for the first time in my life and now I even want one. So, thanks Apple, Samsung and others, I guess.
SuperPac
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You're talking about sales expectations and Terrell's talking about consumer expectations (not of sales numbers but of the device itself).
iPhone / iPad / Apple Watch - all these threads have similar comments about the features of that device and how unimportant they are, yet iPhone/iPad still ended up selling quite well. Do we know what Apple's own sales expectations are for the Apple Watch? The iPhone they stated it just to illustrate how large the market was and that their target was to get 1% of that in the first calendar year - IMO, more theatrics than anything.
Chittagong
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I think it's really funny, and certainly works in Apple's advantage. While it makes no sense conceptually, naming them a historical way makes people pay notice to the features which, like someone pointed out, have existed in phones and computers for years. It makes the basic features feel magical and incredible for a watch, keeping the reference group for comparison favourable for Apple - digital watches. Classic Apple.
I mean, just look at this:
http://www.blancpain.com/en/complications-horlog-res-en
Now you can get these things that used to cost a ton in a watch and much more!
hmmm I see the digression/confusion. Look back to my original reply:
Can we, at a minimum, first agree that the iPad much sold faster than the iPhone above Apple or consumer expectations? Then we can discuss:Actually you mixed that up; the iPhone didn't meet expectations (10 million sold) until after its first price drop (3 months after launch) while the iPad was a blockbuster at release until it crashed in recent years.
I'd rather compare to the AppleTV than to the iPhone or iPad.
Apple fan(boys)/pundits have been using iDevices' amazing cumulative sales as a bludgeon to bash criticism of any new Apple product. I think they rely on 20/20 hindsight and a selective reading of history. Fanboys laugh at "less space than a Nomad" now but at that time that prediction was technically correct; the iPod had slow sales until 2004 (after iTunes, Windows compatability, new iPods etc). Similarly fanboys laugh at RIM/Steve Balmer saying the iPhone would flop but again, technically the first iPhone had slow sales and didn't actually surpass Blackberry sales until after the release of the iPhone 3G. Now there are threads saying that the AppleWatch sucks or won't sell and perhaps we'll look back 5 years from now when everybody is wearing a smartwatch and laugh. But if the first AppleWatch has slow sales and it takes the improved second or third hardware/software version to drive mainstream adoption then technically these threads would be correct...
The iPad is different though; it was a blockbuster seller from day one, first model! The reason I believe is simple: it was a 'bigger iPhone'. Many threads criticized the iPad for that but I think that was key to its initial success. imo the first iPad shouldn't be linked with the first iPod or the first iPhone, it should instead be compared with the first iPod nano -- which was criticized as just a 'smaller iPod' when unveiled but then launched with blockbuster sales. The iWatch is an entirely new product in a similar way to the iPod and iPhone.
That said, I think the best comparison for the AppleWatch is to the AppleTV because Apple is not launching with a breakthrough new paradigm that is unique to the market. The watch is similar to all the competitors. Furthermore the AppleTV hasn't been updated often and I fear Apple will similarly be slow to release new improved watch models. So I don't think the iWatch will have blockbuster sales at launch and it will be in a slow 'hobby' mode for a few years.
SuperPac
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Yes. I can agree with that.
Apple only did one TV commercial for Apple TV and that was for the original model many years ago. They introduced it as a hobby when they were calling it iTV, right? They've never focused much on it. I don't think they featured it heavily in their stores ever. I believe it's stayed a hobby because it relied on a content model they can't control - but that's slowly changing as apps come out for that thing. Maybe it will become more capable in the next few years to the point where they can market it. *shrug* Apple TV is an anomaly in the company's lineup.
But Apple IS going to do a major marketing blitz for the Apple Watch including (I'm sure) featuring it very prominently in-store. If they weren't going to do that, they wouldn't be trying to attract the fashion community as hard as they are.
Even though you and I and tech pundits can agree it isn't a new paradigm, they're going to launch it like it is. It builds off of the consumer interest and loyalty the company has built with the iPod, iPhone and iPad. Apple TV didn't do that so much but Apple never pushed it like they're going to do with the Watch. "It's not a new paradigm," for an Apple product, is not reason enough to think it won't sell well or will just become a hobby. People have said that about almost every product they've launched from iPod on.
People have said 'that' about almost every product they've launched from the iPod on and the people have been right.
- iPod, first one sold slowly. didn't become a huge hit until after iTunes music store, Windows compatibility etc
- iPhone, first one sold slowly. didn't become a huge hit after App store, 3G, subsidy sales model etc.
- Macbook Air, first one sold slowly. didn't become a huge hit until after new model at much lower entrylevel price point, adequate processor etc
- AppleTV, first one sold slowly. didn't become an average hit until after MacOSX to iOS transition, lower price, design change etc
A closer look at history shows that first version of new Apple products don't actually sell that well. The anomaly is the iPad which was a huge hit from Day 1. I think the onus should be on people laughing at old threads to explain why the iWatch isn't going to be like the iPod/iPhone/MBA/AppleTV
ok, good points. Marketing blitz might make a difference...
Chittagong
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And to be fair, Apple Watch is a new paradigm. It's internet always on your skin. The barrier of glance and interaction is massively lower than in pulling a phone out. Also it's socially less alienating than phones. It will bring a new sense of immediacy and connectedness, only limited by the minimal interaction possible.
Your watch will be like your phone that you always glance. Your phone will be like your iPad that you whip out only when you need to achieve something. For staying up to date, watch is enough.
It's a significant paradigm change.
Your watch will be like your phone that you always glance. Your phone will be like your iPad that you whip out only when you need to achieve something. For staying up to date, watch is enough.
It's a significant paradigm change.
Well they do seem to be trying to push it in the same circles that buy up market watches.
Which makes me wonder how they will approach support. Just the same as other Apple gear with a new model for people to buy every year? Or something different? I'd think they might approach it differently. Though I really think people talking about Apple upgrading watches are dreaming.
Purple Cheeto
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I work full time as an iOS dev and no one I know is even entertaining the idea of doing an Apple Watch side project, and none of our clients have asked for anything Apple Watch related.
I fully expect the first year of apps to be on part with the stuff from the first year of the App Store, half baked concepts that were rushed out the door.
It's a new paradigm but Apple's new paradigm is not unique. Comparing the Android Wear and Apple Watch UI Guidelines:
thoughtwax said:
I wrote the Android Wear design guidelines before I left Google earlier this year, so I was curious to browse the well-written and thorough Apple Watch Human Interface Guidelines that came out last week. It’s interesting to note some language and ideas common to both.
I’m not highlighting these to make some arch point – there are many striking originalities that differentiate the design of AW and, uh, AW – but only to dig into the vocabulary and design thinking that’s already naturally emerging around these devices.
Emphases mine.
Simple interactions:
Android: Android Wear focuses on simple interactions, only requiring input by the user when absolutely necessary. Most inputs are based around touch swipes or voice, and inputs requiring fine-grained finger movements are avoided. Android Wear is gestural, simple, and fast.
Apple: Apps on Apple Watch are designed for quick, lightweight interactions that make the most of the display size and its position on the wrist. Information is accessible and dismissible quickly and easily, for both privacy and usability.
Connectedness:
Android: Android Wear devices provide just the right information at just the right time, allowing users to be more connected to both the virtual world and the real world.
Apple: No other Apple device has ever been so connected to the wearer. It’s important to be mindful of this connection as you design apps for Apple Watch.
Brief interactions:
Android: Time a typical use of your Wear app. If using it takes more than 5 seconds, you should think about making your app more focused.
Apple: If you measure interactions with your iOS app in minutes, you can expect interactions with your Watch app to be measured in seconds.
Paged navigation structure:
Android: Cards in the stream are more than simple notifications. They can be swiped horizontally to reveal additional pages. […] Keep the number of detail cards as low as possible.
Apple: A paginated interface lets the user navigate between pages of content by swiping horizontally. […] A dot indicator at the bottom of each page shows the user’s place in the set. Keep the total number of pages as small as possible to simplify navigation.
Contextual relevance:
Android: The context stream is a vertical list of cards, each showing a useful or timely piece of information. […] This UI model ensures that users don’t have to launch many different applications to check for updates; they can simply glance at their stream for a brief update on what’s important to them.
Apple: On Apple Watch, a Glance is a quick view of a focused set of content from an app. Ideally, it is timely and contextually relevant. […] Configure the Glance based on the user’s current context. Stale or irrelevant information makes a glance less useful. Use time and location to reflect what is relevant to the user right now.
Short copy:
Android: Omit needless text. Design for glanceability and not for reading. Use words and phrases, not sentences.
Apple: Keep title strings short and focused. The space available for displaying title strings is minimal, so keep them brief and to the point.
Notify sparingly:
Android: Keep notifications to a minimum. Don’t abuse the user’s attention. Active notifications (that is, those that cause the device to vibrate) should only be used in cases that are both timely and involve a contact, for example receiving a message from a friend. Non-urgent notifications should be silently added to the Context Stream.
Apple: Be sensitive to the frequency with which you send notifications to users. Users might perceive a frequent notifications as annoying and disable notifications for your app on Apple Watch. Always make sure notifications are relevant to what the user wants.
Discreet notifications:
Android: Be discreet if necessary. Wearables are personal devices by nature, but they are not completely private. If your notification serves content that may be particularly sensitive or embarrassing (such as notifications from a dating app or a medical status report), consider not displaying all of the information in a peek card. A notification could place the sensitive information on a second page that must be swiped to, or an application could show different amounts of detail in peek and focused card positions.
Apple: A Short Look appears when a local or remote notification needs to be presented to the user. A Short Look provides a discreet, minimal amount of information—preserving a degree of privacy. If the wearer lowers his or her wrist, the Short Look disappears.
Notification actions:
Android: Actions should be limited to three for a single card row. […] Bridged notifications, such as new message notifications, are pushed to the wearable from the connected handheld using standard Android notifications.
Apple: Long look notifications can display up to four custom action buttons. Apple Watch leverages the interactive notifications registered by your iOS app to display action buttons in the Long Look interface.
Engaging animations:
Android: A confirmation animation is an opportunity to express your app’s character and insert a moment of delight for your user. Keep animations short (less than 1000ms) and simple. Animating the confirmation icon is an effective way of transitioning the user to a new state after completing an action.
Apple: Beautiful, subtle animation pervades Apple Watch and makes the experience more engaging and dynamic for the user. Appropriate animation can: Communicate status and provide feedback. Help people visualize the results of their actions.
Apple had many years headstart over competitors with iPod scrollwheel+iTunes/Music Store, MBA Thin Design**+ relatively low entrylevel price, iPhone touchscreen+AppStore. This time though Google came out with Androidwear on 18 March while WatchKit SDK came out on 18 November. Google is getting better at design faster than Apple can break new markets. Furthermore the iWatch requires an iPhone; like the first iPod you have to be deep into Apple's ecosystem to use it. The iPod wasn't a hit until Apple made it compatible with Windows instead of requiring a Mac. A lot more people have iPhones now than people had Macs back then but it's still a limiting factor that prevents people from seeing this paradigm change imo.
**Sony did the thin/light design before the MBA but they always fucked up on marketing and distribution. Oh Sony...
It was indeed a bit weird to announce the Watch with so much media attention only so that it can be forgotten by everyone.
Certainly they will show it off again announce prices and release date after the first of the year. Whether that is at a small media gathering or via press releases and micro events who knows.
They announced early so they didn't get outed by supply chain or the FCC.
It's not even 2015 yet.
They announced early so they didn't get outed by supply chain or the FCC.
It's not even 2015 yet.
Bomber Bob
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Nobody cares about the smartwatches.
RIP Apple Watch.
RIP Apple Watch.
GAF Thread: So the Apple Watch seems pretty useless for third parties
Business Insider - One Reason The Apple Watch Will Succeed When All Other Smart Watches Have Failed (sic)
Jay Yarrow said:
Mobile Syrup - 14 Predictions for Wearables in 2015
Tom Emrich said:
AVC - What Is Going To Happen
Fred Wilson said:
DaringFireball - Fred Wilson’s 2015 Predictions [wilson-chowder ★]
John Gruber said:
9to5Mac - Apple now says Watch ‘coming early 2015′ for several European countries on its website, matching US release window (updated)
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SuperPac
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TapSense Announces Platform to Bring Contextual Ads to Apple Watch - http://www.macrumors.com/2015/01/05/tapsense-apple-watch-ad-platform/
Barf. Total barf.
I get that it's another screen and therefore advertisers are drooling over being able to sell you crap on it - but I do not want any app I download to advertise to me in this way. I don't mind advertising, generally. I find this way too invasive.
Barf. Total barf.
I get that it's another screen and therefore advertisers are drooling over being able to sell you crap on it - but I do not want any app I download to advertise to me in this way. I don't mind advertising, generally. I find this way too invasive.
This is like the iPhone launch all over again. "Yeah, we'll make all the apps you need, if you don't like that go make some web apps".
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More or less the entire extent of my third party needs are a soundcloud remote so I can favorite tracks. At least as of right this second thats honestly all I can think of. Nearly all the other functionality I see myself using is built in. I don't know, it will be interesting to see how this unfolds.
I'm also expecting the pedometer and fitness functions to work without the phone in range. Which I'm not sure is the case but I'm just expecting it to be the case.
I'm also expecting the pedometer and fitness functions to work without the phone in range. Which I'm not sure is the case but I'm just expecting it to be the case.
TAG Heuer and the Future of the Luxury Watch ★
I won't touch the hyperbolic ignorance about Android users. I'm not sure which is worse: luxury watch snobbery or tech nerd snobbery
There's no reason why TAG Heuer can't make a device that pairs with an iPhone, i.e. like a Pebble Watch or Microsoft Band, and be successful.
DaringFireball said:
I won't touch the hyperbolic ignorance about Android users. I'm not sure which is worse: luxury watch snobbery or tech nerd snobbery
There's no reason why TAG Heuer can't make a device that pairs with an iPhone, i.e. like a Pebble Watch or Microsoft Band, and be successful.
This kid's research/source for "rich people dont buy Android phones." is literally a google search. ¯\_(ツ
_/¯but 'actual' analysts aren't any better: Two Scenarios for the Smart Watch Market ★
Creative Strategiess ConclusionsDaringFireball said:
but:Ben Bajarin said:
- Jony Ive on the Apple Watch: 'We were working on this for three years'
- Google acquired WIMM Labs to bolster its own smartwatch plans WIMM "first developed an Android-based developer platform for wearable displays, and then followed up in late 2011 with its own, developer-centric smartwatch dubbed the WIMM One" and "during the summer of 2012, WIMM Labs entered into an exclusive, confidential relationship for our technology" with Google. (emp. added)
- 1st iPhone with full touchscreen interface launched mid-2007, 2nd iPhone with AppStore in mid-2008 == 1st Android phone with small touchscreen and hardware keyboard launched in late 2008
- 1st AndroidWear watches with touchscreen and voice interface launched in mid-2014, 2nd Gen AndroidWear OS and Watches in late 2014 == 1st iWatch with touchscreen, voice control and digital crown in early(?) 2015.
_/¯There are already stainless steel/leather AndroidWear watches and I wouldn't be surprised to see sapphire/solid gold AndroidWear watches before the end of the year. I just switched back to iOS/Mac from Android/ChromeOS so I'll definitely be getting an iWatch first
SteveMeister
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At this point I'm not planning to get an Apple Watch. The main reason is that I have three analog watches I switch between, and I plan to collect more over time, and an Apple Watch is really only useful if you wear it all the time. I'm not willing to retire/sell my analog watches, and I have a feeling that other watch collectors will feel the same way. It's not just a matter of replacing a single fine watch -- watch enthusiasts will have several watches they wear, too, and I'd think that they won't want to replace them all with an Apple Watch, either.
let's just wait and see, shall we.
the fact that it doesn't have a GPS chip and therefore falls flat as a running watch is pretty shitty. Would have loved to have a watch that connects to bluetooth headphones, which tracks my running via GPS and has some minimal storage for an hour or so of music.
as it stand, you'll still need to carry your iPhone with you, so that sucks. Not like any of the Android wear watches are any better in these regards either. fwiw, i couldn't care less about reading my emails on my watch.
if it works as a spotify remote and adds pulse watching to the Nike+ Running app, i might just give it a shot. acting as a remote viewfinder and shutter for the iPhone's camera sounds like a whole lot of fun, too.
not like 300 bucks or so for a watch is suuuuuuuuuch a huge investment.
i do believe the Apple Watch will become the best selling single smart watch just like the iPhone is the best selling single smartphone. More so than with phones, a smart watch is something that not EVERY PERSON needs, so i suppose the market will be rather mid- to high-end, and Apple controls the high-end on markets it's competing in, be it phones, tablets or personal computers.
the fact that it doesn't have a GPS chip and therefore falls flat as a running watch is pretty shitty. Would have loved to have a watch that connects to bluetooth headphones, which tracks my running via GPS and has some minimal storage for an hour or so of music.
as it stand, you'll still need to carry your iPhone with you, so that sucks. Not like any of the Android wear watches are any better in these regards either. fwiw, i couldn't care less about reading my emails on my watch.
if it works as a spotify remote and adds pulse watching to the Nike+ Running app, i might just give it a shot. acting as a remote viewfinder and shutter for the iPhone's camera sounds like a whole lot of fun, too.
not like 300 bucks or so for a watch is suuuuuuuuuch a huge investment.
i do believe the Apple Watch will become the best selling single smart watch just like the iPhone is the best selling single smartphone. More so than with phones, a smart watch is something that not EVERY PERSON needs, so i suppose the market will be rather mid- to high-end, and Apple controls the high-end on markets it's competing in, be it phones, tablets or personal computers.
Do you switch between the analog watches everyday or do you have one daily driver analog watch and wear the others, the nicer ones, for formal occasions?
Don't worry, you'll be reminded when as usual every local tv news station sends a crew to cover Apple's magical innovative amazing iWatch launch
There's already one Sony AndroidWear watch with GPS and there are rumors of more coming from other manufacturers. I'm not sure if there's an technical restriction preventing an OEM from releasing a standalone AndroidWear watch
I think the iWatch will be like the Apple TV, not the iPhone, and the Apple TV is not the single best selling streaming media player.
Roku blasts Apple TV as a money-losing iPad accessory (bgr warning)
Roku still tops as sales of streaming-media players rise - CNET
Mr. Wonderful
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Sidenote: Holy cow does the AppleTV need to be updated. A single iPhone 4S core. The CPU is literally bottlenecking how fast things can download and stream, as well as of course how responsive the UI is.
GPS is a critical missing feature. If we have to wait a year till gen 2, it's going to be a long year without such an important feature.
This kid's research/source for "rich people dont buy Android phones." is literally a google search. ¯_(ツ
but 'actual' analysts aren't any better: Two Scenarios for the Smart Watch Market ★
Creative Strategiess Conclusions
but:
Or perhaps the analyst believes the digital crown (which Apple barely uses in the iWatch interface and restricts access from third-party developers) represents a "five to seven year advantage on the competition" ¯_(ツ
- Jony Ive on the Apple Watch: 'We were working on this for three years'
- Google acquired WIMM Labs to bolster its own smartwatch plans WIMM "first developed an Android-based developer platform for wearable displays, and then followed up in late 2011 with its own, developer-centric smartwatch dubbed the WIMM One" and "during the summer of 2012, WIMM Labs entered into an exclusive, confidential relationship for our technology" with Google. (emp. added)
- 1st iPhone with full touchscreen interface launched mid-2007, 2nd iPhone with AppStore in mid-2008 == 1st Android phone with small touchscreen and hardware keyboard launched in late 2008
- 1st AndroidWear watches with touchscreen and voice interface launched in mid-2014, 2nd Gen AndroidWear OS and Watches in late 2014 == 1st iWatch with touchscreen, voice control and digital crown in early(?) 2015.
There are already stainless steel/leather AndroidWear watches and I wouldn't be surprised to see sapphire/solid gold AndroidWear watches before the end of the year. I just switched back to iOS/Mac from Android/ChromeOS so I'll definitely be getting an iWatch first
Not that I agree with their conclusions regarding success, but I don't think that second article is talking about 'who made one first'.
The current AppleTV is a device with functionality of 2010(!), no wonder it's being outsold by something as capable as the Roku. There's no proper app ecosystem for it, which is essential to the lifespan / capabilities of a such a device.
The AppleWatch should get plenty of apps, so it won't be lagging behind the competition as much on the Software side.
It seems much more like the iPad to me. A somewhat niche device (compared to smartphones) that not everyone needs to have (at least) one of - if you have a Smartphone and a Laptop you don't really need a tablet.
a "media streaming" box is something a lot more people have an actual need for than a smartwatch, imho. (because it fills an actual gap in functionality, as opposed to just doing something else a bit "better"
A tablet, in comparison, is a great extra gadget, but in no way "needed". It doesn't do more than your phone would do, it just offers better ergonomics (bigger screen than the phone, smaller form factor than the laptop)
Smartwatches seem similar in that way. (always on your wrist, as opposed to in your bag / pocket, like your phone) - still functionally no more capable.
but as i said: let's wait and see. I still strongly believe that there's no one other smartphone model that will sell better than the Apple watch.
SteveMeister
Hang out with Steve.
Right now I have two that I wear on alternate days, and a third that's for more formal occasions.I hope to get more in the future, at least a third "every day" watch and another formal one with a different colored metal.
... and neither am I!? I'm talking about which UX breakthroughs which the iPhone had first that put it many years ahead of the competition (I don't think Android caught up until ICS/Jellybean, ~4/5 yrs after the first iPhone)
When do you think iWatch second gen will be? Rumors/leaks suggested that Apple hoped to release first gen this past fall, but it wasn't ready in time, so
do you think 2nd iWatch will be Sept/Oct 2015?
Or 1 year after first gen release so March(?) 2016?
Or 1yr after full native sdk release/ back to fall schedule release so July/Sept/Oct 2016?
Or perhaps, because luxury watches are heirlooms that aren't replaced frequently, the iWatch will get infrequent hardware (but many software) updates, like AppleTV, so 2nd gen will be 2017/2018
An iPad doesn't require owning an iPhone or even a Mac. An AppleTV requires another Apple device, sometimes, for Airplay, and an iWatch requires an iPhone specifically, all the time, for every feature. but yeah, let's wait and see on sales.
Interesting. Apple will be offering different types of iWatches but seem to have set up a one iPhone = one iWatch combination. Do you have many different straps for your analog watches? Perhaps you could get many of Apple's different iWatch straps and alternate between those instead...
i believe that even if only 1 out of every 100 iPhone owners is going to buy an appleWatch, it will become the best selling smartwatch model around.
to me, it feels like "smartwatches" aren't a huge untapped (and now pretty close to being saturated again) market like tablets were.
i do believe there's going to be a market for "appleWatches", and barely one for "smartwatches" as a category.
Similar to how the market of "'stylish' beats headphones" is, among young consumers, a much bigger market than "high end headphones". The AppleWatch might work as an accessory, "smartwatches" as a product category are pretty pointless, in my eyes.
but yeah, that's all just meaningless predictions.
Squirrel Killer
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I don't believe AppleTV requires anything else from Apple, except perhaps an Apple/iTunes account, which anyone can get.
I think the predictions at Cupertino are much lower than 1 watch for every 100 iPhone. Try 1 per 1000.
seems that article is theorizing that the 'advantage' has more to do with ecosystem, fragmentation, cost, etc. Personally I don't think 5-7 yr timeframe is really accurate either, but it doesn't really read like it has anything to do with UX or development time or bands, etc.
SuperPac
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If they're going to be doing retail training Feb 9-12 I would expect we'll have an Apple Watch specific event soon. The dust of CES will've settled next week - perfect opportunity to send out the invites with a cheeky tagline...
"It's About Time"
"The Time Has Come"
"Watch This Space"
etc.
Looking forward to seeing what Apple's own apps will do on this thing. Bring it on!
"It's About Time"
"The Time Has Come"
"Watch This Space"
etc.
Looking forward to seeing what Apple's own apps will do on this thing. Bring it on!
I mentioned the appstore; i think ecosystem plays a bit part. However when Steve Jobs unveiled the iPhone and said "boy have we patented it" he was referring to the UX not the ecosystem, fragmentation, cost etc. If the article is theorizing that the advantage is the latter then it's doubly wrong. What do you think?
Anyway
Alcatel's new smartwatch is a cheaper Moto 360 that works with the iPhone
First color screen smartwatch to work with the iPhone? Oh wait, there's another contender=TheVerge
I bought a fake Apple Watch for $27 at CES
Mashable said:
The watch can make and receive phone calls, and even vibrates with incoming calls.
lol
Ape Gone Insane
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Round watches look so much better.
infiniteloop
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some more info on the Apple Watch 'Companion' app for iPhone:
http://9to5mac.com/2015/01/13/apple...d-with-new-watch-features-monograms/?pushup=1
- Users will be able to manage and organize applications on the Apple Watch Home Screen via a virtual view on the iPhone Companion application.
- Users will also be able to enable a subtle red dot that appears atop the Apple Watch’s clock face whenever a new notification is received on your iPhone.
- Like on the iPhone, you will be able to set up a dedicated four number passcode for your Apple Watch.
- You can separately activate or deactivate heart rate tracking to automatically calculate calories burned, as well as tracking of your body movements to determine step counts and fitness level.
More at the link
http://9to5mac.com/2015/01/13/apple...d-with-new-watch-features-monograms/?pushup=1
- Users will be able to manage and organize applications on the Apple Watch Home Screen via a virtual view on the iPhone Companion application.
- Users will also be able to enable a subtle red dot that appears atop the Apple Watch’s clock face whenever a new notification is received on your iPhone.
- Like on the iPhone, you will be able to set up a dedicated four number passcode for your Apple Watch.
- You can separately activate or deactivate heart rate tracking to automatically calculate calories burned, as well as tracking of your body movements to determine step counts and fitness level.
More at the link
In which case I think that means the Apple Watch will probably look more to the iPads for a sales model (in rate, if not actual numbers). People aren't swapping out their iPads as fast as they are their mobile phones, and at least in the US it's probably thanks to the subsidized pricing that you see brisk smartphone sales.
But Apple wants to position the iWatch as fashion. People try to keep tech like the iPad as long as possible but they buy fashionable new clothes/bags/jewelery every season. A lot depends on how Apple succeeds with the branding/marketing of the iwatch and their release schedule
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I'm starting to feel the first few pangs of excitement.
I've gone through a lot of different visions about what carrying a little baby computer will or should be like, and the closer we get to release, and the more I think about it, the more I see how passive of an experience it will be. It doesn't really do anything. Which I'm keen on. The device seems to require very little temporal attention. Good. I don't want to accomplish multistep tasks on the device.
I'm thinking of it as a fundamental new piece of iOS; a new spacial area. Like when Notification center and Control Center were introduced. I'm starting to see the watch as becoming the most surface level part of the OS.
There are parts of your computing experience that are completely and totally ongoing, that never really stop even when you leave your computer's vicinity. Communications like iMessage, timers and reminders, controlling the lights, simple queries and computations.. these are things that I do hundreds of times a day and they're just a part of my reality not unlike the way I turn the faucet on the sink day in and day out. It seems fitting to consolidate them into a surface you wear on your person.
As I climb through each day I find more and more time spent on all these menial little tasks. I see the utility a device of this nature offers, but it's featureset feels irrelevant. The things I want to do with the watch are habits that I've already deeply integrated into my personal experience, and those habits are something that change very slowly. That fact is something that interests me greatly. With that in mind, imagining future iterations gets very complicated.
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