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[Bgamer90]

What?

The Forza franchise is annual. 2012 with Horizon, 2013 with 5, 2014 with Horizon 2 and now 2015 with 6. Whats "uninformed", as you say, in that?

Motorsport is different from Horizon though. Completely different play styles.

Would you be saying this if the game was called "Horizon Racing" instead of "Forza Horizon"?

I wish people would simply admit that their criticism of this simply comes from the games having the same name and nothing more. If you are tired of Forza Motorsport after Forza Motorsport 5 then that's fine. Saying it in reference to Forza Horizon 2 releasing last year doesn't make any sense though.

As I said earlier, it's like getting mad at a new NBA Street announcement due to NBA Live releasing just a few months ago -- saying "another EA NBA game?" while disregarding their different play styles, presentation, and teams.

As for my first statement, I really don't want a new Forza. I wish Turn 10 could take a 3 year cycle, really work on their engine, get weather effects, night races in.

What makes it impossible for them to do this with the series current two year cycle?

If you're happy that you're going to play a new Forza this year, great for you. I'm not, unless Turn 10 really surprises, which looking at their history, they won't.

Really? Motorsport 5 was pretty much the only game that wasn't a good improvement in the series but even that had new features from Motorsport 4.

The majority of the series has been on the 360 and the series seen major changes with each entry on that console. 3 was a big step up from 2 and 4 was a big step up from 3.

Horizon shouldn't be in this discussion for the reasons I already stated above.

 

[shandy706]

Their previous 1st to 2nd effort on the same Hardware.

Forza 2...

..to Forza 3

 

[Black_Stride]

What?

The Forza franchise is annual. 2012 with Horizon, 2013 with 5, 2014 with Horizon 2 and now 2015 with 6. Whats "uninformed", as you say, in that?

Read below?:

I know. Just a bit annoying.

As I said before, it's like complaning about "too many NBA gamez!!!!" if there was an NBA Street announcement after the release of NBA 2K/Live.

Different games with different play styles but hey -- the name's the same!

It aint the same game.
Horizon and Motorsport cant be treated as just Forza again....cuz they are vastly different games.

 

[Ambient80]

There will be if this time it lacks soul again.

Horizon 2 and Forza 5 where majorly lacking soul.

Can you quantify that for me? FH2 was fantastic, and by far the best all around racer in this gen so far, imo.

 

[Memorabilia]

The economy was complete shit when the game came out. They heard the complaints and fixed them. The game is now totally fine.

I'm sure they will remember that for FM6.

I think I've heard it all now. The "shitty economy" as an excuse for a company with $50+ billion in cash reserves to turn an otherwise fantastic racing series into a grinding MT cash-grab while also charging full retail? It's good to hear they fixed this problem, I may have to check it out again.

 

[bananafactory]

Kind of a weird time to make this announcement. Just out of nowhere? Figured this would be an E3 thing.

 

[saladine1]

Just realized that it was an Aussie who designed the new Ford GT....

Who cares though, I just want some weather, night, pit stops, endurance, dyno/dyno tuning, more tracks, Aussie cars, more upgrades...etc

Oh, and bring back the Top Gear Test Track suitcase demolition derby....WTF?
Who at Turn 10 thought that was a good idea..?

Beardawalt/Wiswell, don't let me down!

 

[KnightHart]

There will be if this time it lacks soul again.

Horizon 2 and Forza 5 where majorly lacking soul.

So are you looking for racing games to help you with your personal soul searching. Maybe Need for Speed Rival's story mode can help you out there.

 

[VinFTW]

Kind of a weird time to make this announcement. Just out of nowhere? Figured this would be an E3 thing.

Oh banana your so lttp

 

[Fess]

What?

The Forza franchise is annual. 2012 with Horizon, 2013 with 5, 2014 with Horizon 2 and now 2015 with 6. Whats "uninformed", as you say, in that?

As for my first statement, I really don't want a new Forza. I wish Turn 10 could take a 3 year cycle, really work on their engine, get weather effects, night races in.

I really don't care if they've been doing this since Forza 2. I think the franchise has suffered and innovation has been minimal due to this short dev cycle, and I absolutely think that people will get tired of seeing a new Forza on shelves every year. Horizon 2 already didn't sell that much, even though it's a fantastic game.

If you're happy that you're going to play a new Forza this year, great for you. I'm not, unless Turn 10 really surprises, which looking at their history, they won't.

Forza Motorsports and Forza Horizon are completely different game series with different engines made by different development teams. Would it make you feel better if Forza Horizon dropped the Forza title and just went with Horizon?

 

[Bsigg12]

Kind of a weird time to make this announcement. Just out of nowhere? Figured this would be an E3 thing.

Announce a racing sim the first day on the Detroit Auto Show after Ford announces the new Ford GT, the cover vehicle for FM6. Seems fine to me.

 

[farisr]

Hoping for a serious overhaul in lighting... and a good amount of new tracks.

 

[bananafactory]

Announce a racing sim the first day on the Detroit Auto Show after Ford announces the new Ford GT, the cover vehicle for FM6. Seems fine to me.

Ah ok that makes sense. Didn't know about that.

 

[shandy706]

I think I've heard it all now. The "shitty economy" as an excuse for a company with $50+ billion in cash reserves to turn an otherwise fantastic racing series into a grinding MT cash-grab while also charging full retail? It's good to hear they fixed this problem, I may have to check it out again.

What's your GT? I'll send you a friends request tomorrow to help boost your rival/challenge list.

 

[tuna_love]

Kind of a weird time to make this announcement. Just out of nowhere? Figured this would be an E3 thing.

Gt was announced today. The cover car.

 

[bananafactory]

I never played any of the other Forzas, skipped 5 since it seemed a bit rushed/light on content. I did play and enjoy Forza Horizon 2 but being a big Gran Turismo fan I'm curious to see what Turn 10's simulation racers are like, I've heard nothing but good things about the Forza Motorsport series.

Time to jump in with #6 me thinks!

 

[saladine1]

I never played any of the other Forzas, skipped 5 since it seemed a bit rushed/light on content. I did play and enjoy Forza Horizon 2 but being a big Gran Turismo fan I'm curious to see what Turn 5's simulation racers are like, I've heard nothing but good things about the Forza Motorsport series.

Time to jump in with #6 me thinks!

Turn 10.

Try FM5 now, why not?
It's cheap and has plenty of more content than when launched..

 

[twobear]

There's no such thing as franchise fatigue.

Haven't Forza's sales basically been on a downwards trend since 2?

 

[Black_Stride]

I think I've heard it all now. The "shitty economy" as an excuse for a company with $50+ billion in cash reserves to turn an otherwise fantastic racing series into a grinding MT cash-grab while also charging full retail? It's good to hear they fixed this problem, I may have to check it out again.

Hes talking about the Forza Motorsport 5 economy.
Cars were too expensive and career earned you too little money.
They tweaked prices and earnings, plus every one should be on Forza Rewards so money is no longer a real problem.

As for this MT issue....can you please explain it more to me what the problem is with the MTs in Motorsport, cuz i know you aint talking about Horizons Microtrasactions.

 

[Bgamer90]

Haven't Forza's sales basically been on a downwards trend since 2?

I'm believe 5 did much better than 4 in the same amount of time -- mainly due to it being a launch title.

 

[cakely]

Haven't Forza's sales basically been on a downwards trend since 2?

I asked about this earlier but I haven't seen any sales numbers. I had thought that Forza 4 sold less than Forza 3 but I could be mistaken.

 

[FaintColt388301]

Turn 10.

Try FM5 now, why not?
It's cheap and has plenty of more content than when launched..

Yup. I'm all big on racing games right now. It's what I spend the majority of my time playing. Loving DC and enjoying FH2 so I figured why not add another to the list and picked up FM5. It's a great game. I'm really liking it. That 60 fps is glorious. I went back to DC after playing it for a solid day and it was so sad to watch.

I'd definitely recommend it. I normally wouldn't have cared much about this announcement but now I'm super excited for it.

 

[c0de]

I guess this will be the first “real“ entry for Forza Motorsport on Xbox one. 5 was too rushed and light on content, still amazing for a launch game.

 

[Jrs3000]

I've had the game since day one. Haven't spent a dime on any accelerators or tokens or any of that nonsense. Have over 16 million CR from just playing the season, and signing up for the free rewards.

I've actually recently dived back into racing games full bore now with FH2 and Driveclub as well, going so far as to finally build a full on cockpit/rig (threw a 10 inch sub and a couple buttkickers in there to give the games the proper 'oomph') and to my surprise, Forza 5 came out on top simply due to the sound design. The audio added a completely new dimension that I had been totally unaware of until then. It's really second to none.

Pic of setup, that sounds sweet.

 

[Scaramanger]

Ok just woke up and we are 12 pages in but a quick skim of the thread just seems to be arguing more than anything, was there anything announced other than the new GT being the cover car?

Thanks,

 

[KingJ2002]

I dont believe there is franchise fatigue... maybe if Microsoft dropped the Forza from Forza Horizon and just called it "Horizon" or "PGR" people' wouldn't complain.... i mean... it's two different games.

either way... love the Ford GT... the 2006 model is still my dream car.

 

[Odah]

will buy if it achieves the following:

1. More Cars (200 was pretty damn low compared to the other Forza games)

2. More Circuits

3. No micro transactions

4. pls use anti aliasing ;_;

 

[GorillaJu]

Awesome, and good choice of car too. That things a beauty.

 

[wapplew]

I asked about this earlier but I haven't seen any sales numbers. I had thought that Forza 4 sold less than Forza 3 but I could be mistaken.

They wont be making a Forza every year if the series is no profitable.

 

[RBK]

Two different series, but...

Let impulse triggers return to FM6 please. Missing it in Horizon 2.

 

[Black_Stride]

will buy if it achieves the following:

1. More Cars (200 was pretty damn low compared to the other Forza games)

2. More Circuits

3. No micro transactions

4. pls use anti aliasing ;_;

WHY?
Why no Micro Transactions?

If ive got (real)money to throw away and really want that 250GTO i want to buy it nao!
I dont want to have to grind X amount of hours before i can get it....my job doesnt let me.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

I think there is a lot of sore gamers this generation. Upset that turn ten release reasonable updates bi annually. I don't get the hatred? It will be nitpicked for graphics alone and play really well. While the people nitpicking never play it and actually don't play a sim style racer for years because they don't have the option. A strange world

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

Very good. I love Forza 5, but hope that 6 adds more tracks. Hundreds of cars are great and all, but more tracks add to the longevity more, imo.

 

[NoMoChokeSJ]

I think there is a lot of sore gamers this generation. Upset that turn ten release reasonable updates bi annually. I don't get the hatred? It will be nitpicked for graphics alone and play really well. While the people nitpicking never play it and actually don't play a sim style racer for years because they don't have the option. A strange world

Like the crowd complaint. People kept pointing out flat crowds with FM5 and all I could think of was who looks at the crowd while doing 100+ mph around the track. Sadly I already knew the answer..

 

[Odah]

WHY?
Why no Micro Transactions?

If ive got (real)money to throw away and really want that 250GTO i want to buy it nao!
I dont want to have to grind X amount of hours before i can get it....my job doesnt let me.

CUS YOU NEED SKILL SON

step up, step up your game and get those nürburg ring 24hr races, win the moni and then buy all dem cars.


oh and they need to bring back the auction market. WHY WAS IT REMOVED???

 

[aspiegamer]

Kind of a weird time to make this announcement. Just out of nowhere? Figured this would be an E3 thing.

They probably name drop it in the press release they've already written up for NPD results as an upcoming title and figured it was probably better to announce it before then.

I am, unfortunately, 100% serious. They need a list as long as possible of "upcoming titles" to plaster on PR while they can.

 

[c0de]

Is it going to be more of an actual game this time or another transparent microtransaction delivery device?

Do people intentionally ignore that games change via patches? I mean, the fact that forza 5 really improved over time was talked about a lot.

 

[tuna_love]

They probably name drop it in the press release they've already written up for NPD results as an upcoming title and figured it was probably better to announce it before then.

I am, unfortunately, 100% serious. They need a list as long as possible of "upcoming titles" to plaster on PR while they can.

Did you somehow not read in this thread once the cover car was announced today?

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

Like the crowd complaint. People kept pointing out flat crowds with FM5 and all I could think of was who looks at the crowd while doing 100+ mph around the track. Sadly I already knew the answer..

Honestly I was on that hate wagon slightly as I had chosen the ps4 over the Xbox One. Then a couple of months passed and I loved the other forza games. I bought the one and fired it up. Was blown away instantly at how it played with all the assists off. Never once noticed the crowds. Loaded Gaf and was reminded instantly..... Over and over again lol

 

[RespectThySole]

Haven't Forza's sales basically been on a downwards trend since 2?

I don't have any figures, but I'm pretty sure the leaderboard numbers were higher for Forza 3&4 in comparison to 2. Forza 5 is also the fastest selling Forza game.

 

[Ominym]

There will be if this time it lacks soul again.

Horizon 2 and Forza 5 where majorly lacking soul.

Are you high? Horizon 2, if nothing else, had a bunch of "soul". Maybe you didn't like the "soul" it had, but that's another issue. Lets not pretend they just farted Horizon 2 out with no effort or desire.

 

[Black_Stride]

CUS YOU NEED SKILL SON

step up, step up your game and get those nürburg ring 24hr races, win the moni and then buy all dem cars.


oh and they need to bring back the auction market. WHY WAS IT REMOVED???

This i can agree with.
I loved the Auction market, if only to find Unicorn cars.

But i really have no problem with Micro Transactions....as long as i can get paid enough in game credits to buy whatever car i want in a reasonable time, dats all good.

 

[doemaaan]

Man, they pump these games out fast.

 

[trinest]

Forza 5 I agree with. But FH 2, that's utter bullshit.

My issue with Horizon was yes it was a good game and enhanced so many things from Horizon, but at the end of the day the whole party atmopsore didn't feel as party awesome, and instead where silly cut scenes of parties and the illegal street racing been took out really removed from the vibe.

 

[Yaqoub]

I just want a good soundtrack this time around...

 

[Shivvy_NTL]

Wow,the last game just came out, hate early announcements.

 

[Leflus]

Wow,the last game just came out, hate early announcements.

The last game came out over a year ago.

 

[RespectThySole]

Was playing some Forza 4 today again, after a very long while, and decided to check the number of players on the leaderboards of the Forza games:

Forza 2: 3.3 million players
Forza 3: 5.9 million players
Forza 4: 4.6 million players

These were the leaderboard numbers as of May 2013 so it definitely didn't decrease in popularity from Forza 2.

 

[trinest]

I just want a good soundtrack this time around...

In an ideal world Microsoft would have the ability to use Xbox Music and then snap it, but minimize snap, so it just plays music in the background.

Or Forza connecting to Xbox Music.

 

[saladine1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQdKNabFMDk

Gamers into car lovers, car lovers into gamers...never change Greenawalt..