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[Astral Dog]

This is not their decision, they got two versions of the game.

Its like saying Microsoft should be embarrassed for not keeping Mass Effect.

These things happen, of course Nintendo is ashamed for not having third party support on Wii U, but a REmake port is not going to do much, its more Capcom abandoning the Wii U,

 

[prwxv3]

It doesn't change the fact that it's their decision and the OP should be asking them.

The exact details of why the game is on vita are not privvy to the public and the reasons listed here are simply speculation.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=967457

 

[tkscz]

The fact that the first game got multiplat ports might indicate this, but still this game is best played on the 3DS, I have both the PS3 and the 3DS release and with CPP the 3DS version is really a blast. The PS3 version felt too much of a game blown up to fit the HD screen which it is.

I could've sworn I've read somewhere that the 3DS version eventually became a million unit seller. I KNOW I read that it did better than the other 3 versions combined. If they want the console version to sell well, I can see why ignore the 3DS, as they may get the same results.

 

[James Scott]

I'm pretty sure a lot of people calling for 3rd party games on Wii U probably wouldn't buy them on the Wii U. The system had a lot of multi-plats for the first year, but they attached a negative image to Wii U ports being the "worst" version even back when it was just PS360 so they just didn't buy them. I guess Nintendo saw this and just focused on getting exclusives which has helped.(and has been great for me)

Sony got fucking RER 2 on vita of all platforms. That was not capcoms doing.

They had to pay and get a team to port the game, not something I think nintendo would want to do for a non exclusive.

 

[prwxv3]

They had to pay and get a team to port the game, not something I think nintendo would want to do for a non exclusive.

Witch is part of the problem.

 

[dracula_x]

doubt they really care. Resident Evil is nowhere near as relevant anymore as it was during RE remake / RE4 era

It's a still relevant http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/business/million.html

 

[Richie]

Right. This sounds a little "Dey took our game" ish to me. Publishers can do what they feel.

Yeah. We know what Ninty's situation with third parties is like. "Embarrased" doesn't strike me as the right word. It was their exclusive for a damn long time, and it's nothing personal but just business. If I were Nintendo I'd be more embarrassed about stuff like Rayman Legends breaking exclusivity two weeks before freaking release. (Mind you, I'm all for more people playing the game. Just saying, they promoted the hell out of it, and suddenly, bam, Ubisoft jumps ship, that has to leave someone red in the face). This...this has happened a lot of times in the Wii U, Ninja Gaiden and Deus Ex being other supposed exclusives whose exclusivity died off very quickly.

 

[MilesTeg]

Yeah. We know what Ninty's situation with third parties is like. "Embarrased" doesn't strike me as the right word. It was their exclusive for a damn long time, and it's nothing personal but just business. If I were Nintendo I'd be more embarrassed about stuff like Rayman Legends breaking exclusivity two weeks before freaking release. (Mind you, I'm all for more people playing the game. Just saying, they promoted the hell out of it, and suddenly, bam, Ubisoft jumps ship, that has to leave someone red in the face). This...this has happened a lot of times in the Wii U, Ninja Gaiden and Deus Ex being other supposed exclusives whose exclusivity died off very quickly.

Haha. As if NG and DE had anywhere near the presence on Nintendo hardware that RE has had. Come on, This should be about more than recent releases given the significance.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Well the gamble on the Capcom 5 during the Gamecube era didn't really pay off. The system was still largely overlooked by the hardcore crowd.

Not me though. I had REmake, RE0 and RE4 on the Gamecube and loved all of them. One of the major reasons I feel the cube is an underrated console.

 

[akidnamededdy]

Nintendo just doesn't care about 3rd party support. They want 3rd partys to come to them and not the other way around.

Is that why Nintendo offered to foot the bill for Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third?

You can play REmake on a Wii U two different ways already. Let the rubes who didn't play it a decade ago have it.

 

[James Scott]

Witch is part of the problem.

Wizard you talking about? (sorry)
I don't agree, paying for ports of multi plats won't sell them any systems, won't convince 3rd parties to come back, they probably won't sell too well, and won't satisfy consumers most of the time. It could also make the situation worse with devs expecting this type of treatment in the future.

 

[Richie]

Haha. As if NG and DE had anywhere near the presence on Nintendo hardware that RE has had. Come on, This should be about more than recent releases given the significance.

You bring up Capcom and the Gamecube era, man. Let's also remember The Capcom Five, then. This is nothing new to Nintendo.

 

[jbug617]

I would probably blame Capcom more than Nintendo

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I mean

I'm sure they're not happy.

In what way do you wish them to express embarrassment?

 

[Rhazer Fusion]

I mean it was released as a GameCube exclusive. The Wii U should be perfectly capable of running the game given it's on PS3/360.

I dunno. Given Nintendo's history with this game, it just seems pretty shameful to not have this available to their current (extremely) loyal customers.

And I might add, Revelations 2 having no association with 3DS is also quite off putting considering the circumstances in which this IP (Revelations) made it's name to begin with.

As a long time Nintendo fan, I guess I'm just a bit confused as to why Nintendo thinks they can associate this brand with their hardware as a selling point when we are where we are right now. Like, next time there is a new Resident Evil sub IP, I'll make sure to remember that Nintendo hardware is a dead end road.

Nintendo/Capcom is probably to the point where they don't think it worth porting to the Wii U because gamers probably will not be interested in it.

 

[entremet]

Is that why Nintendo offered to foot the bill for Bayonetta 2 and Devil's Third?

You can play REmake on a Wii U two different ways already. Let the rubes who didn't play it a decade ago have it.

You can't play Gamecube games on the Wii U, though. It's only one way--the Wii version.

 

[RurouniZel]

Wii U is a lost cause and Nintendo probably has realized that trying to beg for 3rd party ports of games for it would likely worsen their relationship with 3rd parties rather than improve it.

No one like a clingy boy/girl friend.

 

[sörine]

Tales of Symphonia Chronicles and Soulcalibur II HD also skipped Wii U. And those probably would've done better.

 

[Lernaean]

Sigh.
1) Nintendo does have shame. A handful of executives committed sudoku at the HQ because Capcom didn't port a decade old game on the WiiU.
2) It's a Capcom decision.
3) It can be played any time on the WiiU, and let's be honest, if anyone that played the game on Nintendo consoles would play the game again, it would be on PC in 60fps goodness, like I'm doing.
4) Rev2 is a home console game, it would take money to downport it, something that obviously neither Nintendo or Capcom wanted to spend. It exists on Vita probably because Sony funded it and that's why they are publishing it.
5) 5 days.

 

[akidnamededdy]

You can't play Gamecube games on the Wii U, though. It's only one way--the Wii version.

Not officially, no...

But even so, Wii version is still there.

 

[Rigalo]

But it is playable on WiiU, twice in fact.



Winner by technicality!

Wii U plays GameCube games...?

 

[Fantastical]

Even with the history of the game, they should be a lot more ashamed CoD and Madden aren't on Wii U.

 

[Japanmanx3]

This is capcom's doing. The OP should pose the question in that direction. I know there are some capcom folk on gaf

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[TI82]

Nintendo should be embarrassed about nearly everything they've done this gen. Its been horrible for them.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Sigh.
1) Nintendo does have shame. A handful of executives committed sudoku at the HQ because Capcom didn't port a decade old game on the WiiU.
2) It's a Capcom decision.
3) It can be played any time on the WiiU, and let's be honest, if anyone that played the game on Nintendo consoles would play the game again, it would be on PC in 60fps goodness, like I'm doing.
4) Rev2 is a home console game, it would take money to downport it, something that obviously neither Nintendo or Capcom wanted to spend. It exists on Vita probably because Sony funded it and that's why they are publishing it.
5) 5 days.

You mean seppuku right.

 

[Lernaean]

You mean seppuku right.

Ofc not, i mean sudoku.

Nintendo should be embarrassed about nearly everything they've done this gen. Its been horrible for them.

Agreed. They should gather the sourcecode of all the games they released this gen, both 3DS and WiiU, move it to a hard-drive and then burn it. Horrible, horrible output.

 

[SURGEdude]

Wii U plays GameCube games...?

Yes...

Spoiler

via Nintendon't

But I think he is referring to the Wii "Archives" re-release.

 

[ArkkAngel007]

doubt they really care. Resident Evil is nowhere near as relevant anymore as it was during RE remake / RE4 era

The movies, the massive marketing for RE5 and RE6, and the sales that dwarf those two games (RE4 during that period on GCN/PS2, not the 3-4 port jobs since) combined say otherwise.

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Anyway, it's been a long while and REmake was never a contract exclusive but more-so on a gentlemen's agreement. There's nothing hardware-wise or anything that Nintendo is actively doing that 'lost' the game. It's just the system is a bomb and Capcom isn't going to waste resources on an already not-so-lucrative release to put it somewhere where sales will be shit. The factor of there being the REArchives edition of REmake from the Wii being accessible through the Wii U probably didn't help either.

I'm sure Nintendo has had [hopefully] a wake up call with the reception of the system and with third parties not playing ball, but not sure where 'shame' is involved in something that Capcom isn't even bothering to market themselves to try and sell. In the end, it came down to Capcom's choice, not Nintendo.

 

[nampad]

No need to be embarrased, Capcom are backstabbers and the Resident Evil series is constantly switching around platforms.

 

[Astral Dog]

And, it doesn't matter if they are ashamed or not, they never throw money at third parties for this kind of support, a Wii U Remake doesn't benefit Nintendo enough for them to do it, Capcom doesn't want anything to do with the Wii U after Revelations, this is a case of the ecosystem failing, instead Capcom wants the Sony money.

These things happen,and while i would like it, the truth is that not much people will care besides a few fanboys, Nintendo won't care unless it was some kind of exclusive content. 3DS and Wii got support, but third party is hopeless on Wii U, the best we can do is to wait until the next system, so that Nintendo fixes some of their issues and tries a more open platform.

 

[MrxDemix]

Why should they be embarrassed? It's a remaster they should be happy they aren't part of this remaster/rehash trend. NEW > Remaster. Not saying remastered is a bad thing but not getting a remastered game should not be their concern at all. Honestly the people paying for remasters should be embarrassed especially remasters of some games that are barely a year old....(TLOU/GTA5) If anything Capcom has much older franchises that would deserve a remaster more same for Rockstar. Would have gladly taken a Red Dead Redemption Remaster over GTA:5 as I'm sure most people here would

More games is always better!

 

[prwxv3]

More games is always better!

This. I doubt RER 2 , P5, ect will have a sizable effect on vita sales/ps4 Japanese sales longer ms but I am happy those platforms are getting those games.

 

[Madness]

Nintendo just doesn't care about 3rd party support. They want 3rd partys to come to them and not the other way around.

Yup. Cliffy B is a huge Nitnendo fan and asked why none of his games were ever on a Nintendo console, he said because Nitnendo never asked. Unlike Microsoft and Sony who courted developers, saw that the industry is moving towards third party and multiplatform developers, Nintendo always insisted the devs come to them. This didn't end up so good for them, as their last three home consoles have been ghost towns in terms of meaningful third party support. Even handheld, most third party devs are putting their games on mobile/smartphone/tablets than the 3DS etc.

The industry is now at a place where a Destiny, a Grand Theft Auto, a Call of Duty, an Assassin's Creed will outsell most if not all first party games.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Did the first game on 3ds not do well or something?

The RE audience is far bigger on consoles hence RER 2 focusing on consoles. Vita version is being funded by Sony.

WiiU is not getting RE Hd most likely due to poor sales of RE:R.

 

[IsntChrisL]

As much as it sucks I think the third party situation on the Wii U is pretty much settled. Nintendo will chase exclusives but they won't dump money on ports that won't sell well.

 

[Nintendojitsu]

NeoGAF should be embarrassed that they allow these type of threads to make it past the first page. Absolutely mortified.

 

[cheesekao]

Wii U is a lost cause and Nintendo probably has realized that trying to beg for 3rd party ports of games for it would likely worsen their relationship with 3rd parties rather than improve it.

No one like a clingy boy/girl friend.

So is the Vita but Sony got RE:Revelations2 on it.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

This is capcom's doing. The OP should pose the question in that direction. I know there are some capcom folk on gaf

Yeah, but Capcom aren't going to do the work without some financial incentive from Nintendo. You can bet your arse Revelations 2 is only coming to the Vita because Sony pushed to make it happen.

 

[sörine]

The RE audience is far bigger on consoles hence RER 2 focusing on consoles. Vita version is being funded by Sony.

WiiU is not getting RE Hd most likely due to poor sales of RE:R.

RE audience is certainly bigger on consoles but RER still sold through more on 3DS than all console combined in Japan + USA. RER actually had extremely poor sales on all consoles, Capcom's bloated shipment figures are truly mystifying.

 

[WhiteRabbitEXE]

They should have been embarrassed all the way back when SoulCalibur II HD skipped Wii U. It was one of the laziest, cheapest remasters ever, and it would have been the easiest to develop on Wii U by a significant degree, and they still couldn't be bothered, even with how well it sold on GCN. Now-a-days this is just par for the course.

 

[Dash Kappei]

So is the Vita but Sony got RE:Revelations2 on it.

Yes, by footing the bill for its development.
There are better games (as far as potential interest goes, not quality) Nintendo should invest in, possibly exclusive to the system... which seems to be their m.o., fine by me (multiconsole owner)

Sony's and Nintendo's m.o. couldn't be further apart: the former funds portable ports of big, western-appealing, multimillion selling IPs like Cod, BLands and Resi, the latter funds niche action/core exclusive IPs which are supposedly appealing to the super hardcore crowd. Both have the same intent tho, to expand the library with games sorely missing from their platform.

 

[Shaanyboi]

they should, but it's Capcom's decision. And besides, this certainly isn't the only third party game they're missing...

 

[bananafactory]

They have Bayonetta 2. They don't care about about REmake

 

[mocolostrocolos]

One decent game isn't enough to be proud about.

Luckily there's also New Super Mario Bros U, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101, Super Mario 3D World, Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Hyrule Warriors, Super Smash Bros. for WiiU or Captain Toad. All of which are games to be proud of.

 

[Trike]

It would be perfectly capable to run on a Wii U, but they are more concerned with whether or not it would be perfectly capable of selling on the Wii U. I am going to go ahead and guess that Revelations HD did not sell all that great on it. It's not Capcom's fault that third party software has a hard time selling on the system.

I also want to note that the remake has stayed exclusive to Nintendo hardware for like 13 years, which is a pretty good run.

 

[liquidtmd]

"We want to save money for people who previously own a RE game on GC and Wii" a Nintendo spokesman just confirmed

 

[Xenoflare]

I could've sworn I've read somewhere that the 3DS version eventually became a million unit seller. I KNOW I read that it did better than the other 3 versions combined. If they want the console version to sell well, I can see why ignore the 3DS, as they may get the same results.

I'm not surprised even if that is the case. Since Revelations is an early 3ds game with a lot of promise.

Capcom could have done the ports just because it was an easy way to cash in, personally I think Capcom overall is doing a terrible job recently in terms of balancing their books, their games might be selling but it's not enough catch up with the burn rate.

See: SF5 PS4 exclusive, trigger happy with rereleases and ports, suing Tecmo Koei at the last minute regarding a patent they never used that relates to the mixjoy feature of Xtreme Legends.

Of course these are all conjectures from me, everything here are just my thoughts

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

RE audience is certainly bigger on consoles but RER still sold through more on 3DS than all console combined in Japan + USA. RER actually had extremely poor sales on all consoles, Capcom's bloated shipment figures are truly mystifying.

Oh really what are the LTD's of the console SKU's?

They have Bayonetta 2. They don't care about about REmake

Bayonetta is no replacement for RE Hd lol.....they are two entirely different games.

 

[Speevy]

I don't think companies can be embarrassed, and if the can, I think Nintendo is probably immune to it by this point.

 

[MisterGrey3000]

I'm just gonna be blunt, I don't really think they give a shit; maybe somebody at NCL shrugged and said,"Oh well." but that's about it.

Tbqh, I think they'd be more "embarrassed" (Whatever the hell that's supposed to mean regauarding a giant multi-million dollar international company with tons of employees) about a new HD 3D Sonic platformer skipping their system.