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Bringing back dead characters is going to be so much easier once they have the iZombie crossover.
 
I was all for a relationship between Oliver and Felicity before, but the further we get into Season 3, the less I like it. I think the way that the writers are handling it does a disservice to both characters. Either go full out with it, or don't do it all, but don't waffle in between and make both characters look petty and insecure when they weren't this petty and insecure beforehand.

Well..that's the problem...they don't have one
 
It's a metaphor for rebirth.

Lian Yu was Oliver's Lazarus Pit. Nanda Parbat was Merlyn's.

Do you believe

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I was all for a relationship between Oliver and Felicity before, but the further we get into Season 3, the less I like it. I think the way that the writers are handling it does a disservice to both characters. Either go full out with it, or don't do it all, but don't waffle in between and make both characters look petty and insecure when they weren't this petty and insecure beforehand.

Olicity worked through S2 because it wasn't really pushed as a romantic relationship; it was pushed as "Felicity was the platonic friend who didn't eff up Oliver's romantic life" and "Oliver keeps failing with all the other badass superchicks he falls for". It was one of those things that once they overtly started pushing it; the genuine nature (and genuine flirting) felt too forced and unnatural, IMO.
 
You know what the Arrow-verse needs? Mary friggin' Marvel. Ridiculously sunny, happy woman with superpowers who comes to Starling City with her tiger butler and is all 'Goodness gracious' at Arrow torturing people. And then Oliver goes to Fawcett City to apologise and is all 'what the fuck?' at how it's basically an even cheerier version of the 1950s stuff from Back To The Future, with 'Candy Man' playing constantly via a radio.

And then Mary's tiger butler can teach Oliver how to use a blunderbuss.
 
Olicity worked through S2 because it wasn't really pushed as a romantic relationship; it was pushed as "Felicity was the platonic friend who didn't eff up Oliver's romantic life" and "Oliver keeps failing with all the other badass superchicks he falls for". It was one of those things that once they overtly started pushing it; the genuine nature (and genuine flirting) felt too forced and unnatural, IMO.
I might not be such a big fan of how it's being handled either, but what I do notice is that it's Felicity that gets all the flak from people that don't support that storyline. But it's been Oliver that keeps leading her on then pulling away.

It's just like with what happened with Laurel and Sara. The female characters get the brunt of the complaints. And it's especially odd in this case because the only common denominator is Oliver.

Personally, I like all theses characters. I don't always agree with their choices, but I still am pretty invested in them, but it really does become tiring that the female characters on this show, (and it's starting to happen on The Flash too) get getting harped on while the guys, who for the most part have been the instigators and the ones playing hot & cold, don't catch any heat for it. (Though I'm not exonerating the writers of this, they keep putting the characters in this positions, and they definitely need to move past it and progress these relationships, one way or the other.)
 
I might not be such a big fan of how it's being handled either, but what I do notice is that it's Felicity that gets all the flak from people that don't support that storyline. But it's been Oliver that keeps leading her on then pulling away.

It's just like with what happened with Laurel and Sara. The female characters get the brunt of the complaints. And it's especially odd in this case because the only common denominator is Oliver.

Personally, I like all theses characters. I don't always agree with their choices, but I still am pretty invested in them, but it really does become tiring that the female characters on this show, (and it's starting to happen on The Flash too) get getting harped on while the guys, who for the most part have been the instigators and the ones playing hot & cold, don't catch any heat for it. (Though I'm not exonerating the writers of this, they keep putting the characters in this positions, and they definitely need to move past it and progress these relationships, one way or the other.)

I think people are more impatient in general. Arrow dealt with Oliver/Laurel in S1 and hasn't gone back to it, they confined Oliver-Sara to a season and resolved that in a mature way so that neither party resented the other, and Felicity/Oliver has only been an actual thing since the first Count Vertigo episode in S2 - i.e. just over a year. The lack of faith in this show startles me sometimes - people all 'yay' in S2 were, within a handful of episodes, saying the show sucked and had lost its magic. Then went 'YAY' for the winter finale, ignoring that it only worked BECAUSE of the set-up with Merlyn and Thea and the League.
 
You can watch Kantai Collection until next week.


Olli still has to get on that standing on water and firing arrows that turn into planes level.

Oliver: Diggle... while I was on the island I met this Japanese girl...
Diggle: We went over this, her name was Shado right?
Oliver: No, she was different, she could walk on water and shoot arrows that turned into Mitsubishi Zero's
Diggle: Okay now you're just pulling my leg...
Oliver: No, watch! *shoots arrow that turns into P-51 Mustang*
Diggle: I am out!
 
Put me on the same boat as the rest of ArrowGAF that has grown tired of Felicity.

I was getting tired of her as well but now I blame the writers. When she did the first cross over on Flash the Felicity I knew and loved was back. The B team producing Arrow sucks.
 
It is the entire 'angst' surrounding the relationship that sucks. If they just kissed and dated lowkey, it would get better again.
 
I was getting tired of her as well but now I blame the writers. When she did the first cross over on Flash the Felicity I knew and loved was back. The B team producing Arrow sucks.

What irks me isn't so much the fandom's obssession with her (which is a given), but rather the showrunner's response to that. They've inflated her importance to obnoxious levels. I rate her origin story episode amongst the worst. I'm glad they at least put a stop her thing with Barry, the last thing I wanted was a Arrow-Felicity-Flash love triangle, though it looks like we'll probably have to suffer through Arrow-Felicity-Atom.
 
Oliver: Diggle... while I was on the island I met this Japanese girl...
Diggle: We went over this, her name was Shado right?
Oliver: No, she was different, she could walk on water and shoot arrows that turned into Mitsubishi Zero's
Diggle: Okay now you're just pulling my leg...
Oliver: No, watch! *shoots arrow that turns into P-51 Mustang*
Diggle: I am out!
Ahahaha

What irks me isn't so much as the fandom's obssession with her, but rather the showrunner's response by inflating her importance to obnoxious levels. I'm glad they at least put a stop her thing with Barry, the last thing I wanted was a Arrow-Felicity-Flash love triangle.
The worst thing is, that every of the heroes has a canon love interest which the shows want obviously run with, so Felicity keeps on losing by default. This is getting ridiculous, she surely will run to Supergirl next.
 
The worst thing is, that every of the heroes has a canon love interest which the shows want obviously run with, so Felicity keeps on losing by default. This is getting ridiculous, she surely will run to Supergirl next.

ArrowGAF will burn when Oliver and Laurel get it on. It's inevitable. Olicity is a fandom thing, really. I don't believe that was ever meant to be more than a silly, one-sided crush Felicity would grow out of eventually before finding her own man. That's still likely to happen.
(Unless she dies, which at this point, I'm rooting for purely for the reaction of the fandom.)
 
I might not be such a big fan of how it's being handled either, but what I do notice is that it's Felicity that gets all the flak from people that don't support that storyline. But it's been Oliver that keeps leading her on then pulling away.

It's just like with what happened with Laurel and Sara. The female characters get the brunt of the complaints. And it's especially odd in this case because the only common denominator is Oliver.

Personally, I like all theses characters. I don't always agree with their choices, but I still am pretty invested in them, but it really does become tiring that the female characters on this show, (and it's starting to happen on The Flash too) get getting harped on while the guys, who for the most part have been the instigators and the ones playing hot & cold, don't catch any heat for it. (Though I'm not exonerating the writers of this, they keep putting the characters in this positions, and they definitely need to move past it and progress these relationships, one way or the other.)

Except this season Felicity has had shitty relationship drama with Oliver, Ray and Barry(in the Flash). She's been the common denominator. She's also done next to nothing of interest outside of that.
 
Except this season Felicity has had shitty relationship drama with Oliver, Ray and Barry(in the Flash). She's been the common denominator. She's also done next to nothing of interest outside of that.
The Barry thing was one episode, and they did it to put it to rest.

And between Ray and Ollie, she told Ollie to make a choice and he waffled and gave mixed signals. He's totally the one at fault in that situation. 100% And this is far from the first time he's done this. He's gone through 5 girls already and each time it ended badly.

As I said before, I'm not saying I support the way the story is going, but what I really dislike is that the girls are always getting harped on while Oliver pretty much has nothing said against him.

Would I love for Felicity to have more to do in the story than be the prize everyone is fighting over? Of course I would, but I don't blame her character for Ollie being fickle as hell, or for the fact that Ray likes her. (And actually treats her well, for the most part.)
 
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