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Naughty Dog won't push Uncharted 4 to 60fps if it compromises player experience
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Its sad that in this day and age developers are not allowed to make a game they want to make. So ND may have targetted 60fps and now it seems they not entirely sure which way they will be going. As long as the game is at a stable framerate (locked 30 or 60) and not bug ridden, it should not be an issue at what res or framerate (locked 30fps obviously being the bare minimum) they launch at.
Crossing Eden
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I'm curious about what isn't possible at 60fps except for better graphics and effects.
Truth be spoken, ND and especially Neil and Stanley indeed implied the 60 fps "dream".
I mean the way they tweeted it looked like something more than your typical "we are targeting 60 fps, we will see if we can do it".
Did they speak too early? Perhaps.
I certainly am hyped for the game , but indeed the whole 60 fps dream is theirs to blame.
I mean the way they tweeted it looked like something more than your typical "we are targeting 60 fps, we will see if we can do it".
Did they speak too early? Perhaps.
I certainly am hyped for the game , but indeed the whole 60 fps dream is theirs to blame.
Mohonky
Member
........and yet they are.
People believed they were going to hit the trailer visuals with 60fps.....then the gameplay was shown, but people were still saying its work in progress, ND wont let us down, they have time to bring it to 60fps!
They said they were aiming for 60fps but that was always a load of shit. Any dev saying they are aiming for 60fps is full of it, they know damn well what they want to achieve visually and with their engine and if they wanted to hit 60fps they could; but they dont. Their goal was always visuals > framerate.
OsirisBlack
Banned
Please don't do this, I own a Wii U and greatly enjoy it but it is not a graphical powerhouse and pushing Wii U graphics at 60fps should be a given.
The Order 1886.
Agreed a locked 30fps is suitable for most games. The only games that require 60fps in my opinion are fighting games, mobas and some first person shooters.
But wouldn't a downgrade to 30 fps also be a pretty serious PR blow?
Spinning Plates
Member
It would be nice if devs could give us a 30 or 60 fps option even if it's as simple as playing at a lower res.
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If people really care that much, then buying a console was a mistake and expecting developers to always choose 60fps over graphics is a pretty big oversight.
Make up your mind. You say they are not allowed to make a game they want, then you impose restrictions. What if they don't care if its 30 FPS locked and don't mind dips? Its still the game they want. What if its above 30 unlocked?
Are they allowed to make what they want or not?
william_557
Member
it's ND, whatever they do i know it'll be good
GameSeeker
Member
Good answer ND.
As I keep saying, Uncharted 4 should be 30fps SP and 60 fps MP. Problem solved and customers get the best game possible on the PS4.
As I keep saying, Uncharted 4 should be 30fps SP and 60 fps MP. Problem solved and customers get the best game possible on the PS4.
I just hope they're designing with 30 fps in mind and then try to optimize it to 60. Would suck if they are designing it the other way around and end up having to lock it at 30. We would possibly get a smaller scale game as a result.
I think the article/quote clearly states that ND is actually trying to make the game they want to make.
I think the article/quote clearly states that ND is actually trying to make the game they want to make.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
Member
welp and there you go. good thing i was skeptic about their 60fps target with the visuals they were aiming for. still day zero for me.
It is, GZ is V. Additionally, they still work on the engine. If anything TPP will be better than GZ.
MarkMclovin
Member
Exactly.
And it makes me chuckle a little that the only time Gaf will slag off Naughty Dog is when they may not be able to reach 60fps in Uncharted.
Just enjoy it for what it is.
Hmm... this is a good point. They should design the visual fidelity of the game for a solid 30FPS then try to optimise it to get 60FPS and maybe even add or improve some effects. And after watching the PSX demo, no way in Hell do I want a smaller map!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
If this is the best you got I'm going back to my bed.
They teased it?
But whatever, the game will look and play great in 30 or 60 fps. Let the devs decide whats best.
Huh? this is a weird question, why would there be something other than the graphics?
No. The average gamer doesn't care for framerate. Visual flair is what appeals. Only the hardcore care for the numbers. Flagship title is always going to go for visual flair given it has to showcase what the console can do. Locked 30fps is pefectly acceptable. I don't get where this "60fps or bust" talk is coming from. Developers are allowed to adjust to what they want to achieve. Be it visuals over framerate or vise versa.
Mohonky
Member
Were you not around for the reveal?
It doesn't have to be the best, it just has to be better than UC's.
For the clowns on Gaf who obsess over 60fps yes it's a PR blow.
Average Joe doesn't even know or care about any of this and just wants an awesome Uncharted game that plays great and has amazing graphics.
In addition, people with brains here also recognize this is not a blow for them either and respect ND's right to make the game they want.
WeAreStarStuff
Member
Lock it at 30fps and I won't care.
apparently it was just a dream. Honestly, I rather have a stable 30 fps with amazing graphics than a unstable 60 fps with average graphics. 60 fps would had been nice, but it's not a deal breaker in my humble opinion.
Not only that, but also spectacle. It would be shame if they dial set-pieces down because they want to aim for 60 FPS, and don't reach it at the end.
it's almost as if Naughty Dog themselves said the game would be targeting 60fps and people believed them
weird right?
Grimm Fandango
Member
Guess they're saving it for the PS5 re-release.
Set pieces are what define the Uncharted series and I have faith Naughty Dog will not compromise them for frame rate
jmaine_ph
Member
I agree with you but I think you feel like I'm doubting the game will maintain 60 fps. I'm not, in just simply saying it's not out yet lol. GZ is only a part of TPP
No one gives a shit past concern trolls on GAF and PC master race people.
Sure we would all love to have it in 60fps, but practically no one truly expected itor would consider 30fps a "serious blow".
styl3s
Member
GAF is a wonderful place like that. People here actually said TLOU on PS3 was a slideshow and was unplayable.
The game was never going to look this good and be 60fps locked and people are delusional if they thought it would. There is absolutely nothing wrong with 30fps.
I, for one, am shocked that the initial reveal trailer and the PR surrounding it from naughty dog was a lie.
My comment was aimed at the "60fps or bust" crowd. The die hard 60fps crowd. 30fps locked is the bare minimum in terms of performance and playability. Anything below that is obviously not going to be something anyone would enjoy. They should be allowed to make what they want above locked 30fps.
Bit bold of you, care to explain how it was a lie?
DryvBy
Member
Did you enjoy Uncharted 1 - 3? Probably not. They weren't 60 fps and we know how that's unacceptable.
The 60fps-only is the new annoying thing of gaming. Stable 30fps is very much playable with 60fps preferred.
Targeting and achieving are two completely separate things. Watch the TLoU doc for a quick glimpse of what they want to achieve and what they know they can feasibly achieve with what they have to work with.
it's like they realize that 60fps is unobtainable based on the game they want to make. Weird right?
Horsemama1956
Member
You're nuts if you think Neo Gaf is the only place that cares about 60 fps.
That wasn't the point of my statement. I'm well aware that other video game forums aside from GAF exist.
That's what I'd like to know too (grabs popcorn)
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Ya if that was the case noone would of bought most every game in the last yr
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Maybe everyone should just make simple side scrolling platformers then.
The game is in early development. its normal its not running at its best. FPS improvements are happening in the last miles of optimisations.