Just keep at it and you'll eventually hit gold. It took me a while but I remained confident and determined, and it finally paid off. A good profile picture is key, too.either my pictures are bad or i'm really ugly. i send messages to girls on OKC, they visit my profile, then nothing. they must look at me and run away.
I could use some feedback here. Or maybe this is just venting. I dunno. But I need to say something to someone.
Girl and I have been out on four dates prior to this. Tonight was the fifth. She's a working single mom, so we can only meet on weekends. She broke up with her ex because he was cheating on her. I mention this because she admitted to having barriers up and some trust issues.
So, tonight's date. After dinner, we sat in her car for a bit. And we talked. Asked her if I could see her again next week, and she said "maybe. I'm still trying to figure out what I think about you." We then made out for 30 minutes.
What should I make of that? My current feeling is that she's working out whether she wants to move things to another level or break it off entirely. A "shit or get off the pot" moment.
either my pictures are bad or i'm really ugly. i send messages to girls on OKC, they visit my profile, then nothing. they must look at me and run away.
Wow that's pretty rough. She's definitely emotionally guarded then. Just keep being yourself! She just needs2.5-3 years ago. He cheated on her while she was pregnant with his kid. I have no problem with the emotional guards...I just don't want her to break up with me because she fears I'm a bad guy. I'm not. But I don't really know how to show her that.
2.5-3 years ago. He cheated on her while she was pregnant with his kid. I have no problem with the emotional guards...I just don't want her to break up with me because she fears I'm a bad guy. I'm not. But I don't really know how to show her that.
I should have really stopped texting her.
Haha it's nothing like that. We're stuck in an argument about something completely different and unrelated. But if there was any doubt about us not being cut out for each other, this has definitely squashed that.Sometimes we have to learn from our mistakes...
should i give up on this one?
me:"you free any time this week? let's grab some coffee"
her:"when are you free?"
me:"saturday is good"
her:"i might be able to do saturday. i have to work but maybe after?"
me:"sure let me know when you're off"
she has my cell # and everything. haven't heard from her since.
I've been dating this girl for 3 months now and on Saturday she finally wanted to become mutually exclusive as she stopped seeing another guys. I haven't been in a serious relationship so I was wondering if anyone had any tips/advice to help sustain a long-term relationship.
should i give up on this one?
me:"you free any time this week? let's grab some coffee"
her:"when are you free?"
me:"saturday is good"
her:"i might be able to do saturday. i have to work but maybe after?"
me:"sure let me know when you're off"
she has my cell # and everything. haven't heard from her since.
1) When was this convo? If you're referring to this Saturday, that's a long ways away. You can follow-up in a few days just to confirm if they are still interested. You don't have much to lose.
2) I thought you were going to start working on yourself instead of pursuing women?
Don't sweat it. That's a few days away yet. Send her a follow up text around Wednesday or so and see if she's still down. If you don't get a response move on.
@bcl0328
Follow your instincts, man. Look at the obvious. If you told a girl to get back to you for a date on Saturday, and Saturday passed with no contact, what do you think you should do? I'm stating it in this way because things become much easier when you can figure out a girl's interest or lack thereof on your own.
Yeah, I hear you. Just remember that even being messaged first usually doesn't mean as much. Circumstances can change on a whim. Can't even tell you how many weird situations I've been in online dating. My only advice to you is to get rid of feeling like nothing else matters but getting a girl. Once you do that things will be much easier. Good luck!yea i know. i already knew the answer, just wanted to hear it from others i guess. i just had a little more hope for this girl since she was the first to make contact and not me.
oh well. i'm done for now.
This is one area where you're going wrong. Women can pick up on such negativity and will steer clear of anyone displaying such a negative attitude. I understand it's tough being rejected but you know what you do? You stand up, dust yourself off, straddle up, and power on to the next woman.Oh, well. I'm done for now.
Yeah, I hear you. Just remember that even being messaged first usually doesn't mean as much. Circumstances can change on a whim. Can't even tell you how many weird situations I've been in online dating. My only advice to you is to get rid of feeling like nothing else matters but getting a girl. Once you do that things will be much easier. Good luck!
Going by the problems you are having reading women, I dare say it was that you never noticed whoever was interested.even when i didn't care about girls and was focused on college, getting a career, etc. i still never got anyone interested. so it's like even if i don't care or do care, it's all the same.
even when i didn't care about girls and was focused on college, getting a career, etc. i still never got anyone interested. so it's like even if i don't care or do care, it's all the same.
Going by the problems you are having reading women, I dare say it was that you never noticed whoever was interested.
Its not though, you just don't know it yet. Focus on your career and friends, go out and socialize. If you're doubtful about your looks, post a pic in this thread and I'll be more than happy to tell you what to change. You need to be a balanced and wholesome person before you can get women. Because the reality is that there is a lot of rejection and crap to go through in getting them. Mental fortitude is a prerequisite for success.even when i didn't care about girls and was focused on college, getting a career, etc. i still never got anyone interested. so it's like even if i don't care or do care, it's all the same.
Wow that's pretty rough. She's definitely emotionally guarded then. Just keep being yourself! She just needs
To get to know you more and that takes time!
That is a tough situation. Hardest part of being in a relationship after being cheated on is trust. It is easy to put the baggage from a relationship that involves cheating onto the next few relationships. There is no real great way around this other than to be open, communicate a lot and be patient. If you really like her then put the time in to help her get over this situation.
Best of luck.
Thanks. I just hope she gives me the time. Since her breakup, she hasn't had any relationships longer than 6 weeks. I guess all I can do now is my best, and if it doesn't work out, it doesn't work out.
Going by the problems you are having reading women, I dare say it was that you never noticed whoever was interested.
NeOak is onto something... you need a good wingman. I never knew girls were interested in me without them spelling it out quite plainly and even then I had issues accepting that.
It was not until recently that I realized hanging out with my friends at bars that I am not a blight and that there are many people that have shown interest I am just to stupid and blind to realize it. My friends have to point this stuff out a lot.
Its not though, you just don't know it yet. Focus on your career and friends, go out and socialize. If you're doubtful about your looks, post a pic in this thread and I'll be more than happy to tell you what to change. You need to be a balanced and wholesome person before you can get women. Because the reality is that there is a lot of rejection and crap to go through in getting them. Mental fortitude is a prerequisite for success.
Go!i can say with 100% confidence you're all right. i never ever know when someone's interested. not until i go back and read the signs or an old chat window that i'm like ohh shit. i'm trying to get better at it, sometimes it's hard to tell when they are flirty vs. being nice.
edit: well crap guys, this girl wants to get drinks on thursday. should i just go and see what happens? i wasn't planning on this happening.
edit: well crap guys, this girl wants to get drinks on thursday. should i just go and see what happens? i wasn't planning on this happening.
I specifically have not dated someone that has been cheated on. But a very close friend and co-worker is currently in a relationship that echos a lot of what your in and when the two of them started dating it was rocky... emotional and a lot of people would not have put up with what he put up with.
7 years later these two people are in one of the most solid trusting relationships I have ever seen. It just took a very long time and a lot of patience to get there.
So hopefully this turns out good for you.
edit: well crap guys, this girl wants to get drinks on thursday. should i just go and see what happens? i wasn't planning on this happening.
i can say with 100% confidence you're all right. i never ever know when someone's interested. not until i go back and read the signs or an old chat window that i'm like ohh shit. i'm trying to get better at it, sometimes it's hard to tell when they are flirty vs. being nice.
edit: well crap guys, this girl wants to get drinks on thursday. should i just go and see what happens? i wasn't planning on this happening.
Okay. So the girl I've been dating for about 3 months has completely withdrawn after an insanely stressful 2-week course.
I saw her Tuesday for a date, and everything was fine. She explained to me how stressful the class was, that there was a big presentation on Friday, and not to be offended if she didn't reach out much. Okay.
I didn't hear from her at all on Thurs, Friday, or all day Saturday. Eventually she texted me Sat night, saying, "Sorry for being out of touch, it was a hell of week, but I need this long weekend to regroup. I need solitude right now."
Normally I take this as a bad sign, that she wants out. But it just wouldn't make sense - she was absolutely FINE on Tuesday, just a few days before she texted me that. She initiated hand holding, put my head on my shoulder, that sort of thing.
She has not been on social media for a week, which is VERY unusual for her. I have never seen her off Twitter for this long since I met her. No tweets, retweets, favorites, anything. So I guess it shows she's not just ignoring me, but being completely withdrawn from EVERYONE.
I haven't heard/texted since that Saturday night. How worried should I be? I don't plan on texting her, since I want to give her that solitude that she asked for. Is it a good sign that she's not on any social media either? Do some people (she is fairly introverted) really just need a few days alone time to regroup?
edit: we are NOT exclusive, so there is no point in hiding the fact that she is seeing/interesting in another guy.
Okay. So the girl I've been dating for about 3 months has completely withdrawn after an insanely stressful 2-week course.
I saw her Tuesday for a date, and everything was fine. She explained to me how stressful the class was, that there was a big presentation on Friday, and not to be offended if she didn't reach out much. Okay.
I didn't hear from her at all on Thurs, Friday, or all day Saturday. Eventually she texted me Sat night, saying, "Sorry for being out of touch, it was a hell of week, but I need this long weekend to regroup. I need solitude right now."
Normally I take this as a bad sign, that she wants out. But it just wouldn't make sense - she was absolutely FINE on Tuesday, just a few days before she texted me that. She initiated hand holding, put my head on my shoulder, that sort of thing.
She has not been on social media for a week, which is VERY unusual for her. I have never seen her off Twitter for this long since I met her. No tweets, retweets, favorites, anything. So I guess it shows she's not just ignoring me, but being completely withdrawn from EVERYONE.
I haven't heard/texted since that Saturday night. How worried should I be? I don't plan on texting her, since I want to give her that solitude that she asked for. Is it a good sign that she's not on any social media either? Do some people (she is fairly introverted) really just need a few days alone time to regroup?
edit: we are NOT exclusive, so there is no point in hiding the fact that she is seeing/interesting in another guy.
Date went well.She actually later on suggested meeting up during the day today, but the last thing I wanted to do was to travel back into London when I'm off work.
Monday should be fine.
She was at a work Christmas party, apparently.
Date went well.
She's not entirely my type, but she seems fun enough I guess.
We'll see how it goes, but I can tell she's really into me.
The latter.Not your type as in at all, or not your type as in off of left field and you are getting used to her?
The latter.
She seems fun though so I don't mind.
I don't even know why you even write the question lol
No this is a horrible idea...
Give me her number I will be your stand in.
Yes, go. Wow, I just don't even know what to say to this question.
What I mean to say is. Girl is interested, drinks are involved go forth and be social! What is the worst that can happen?
i'm definitely going. i keep swearing off women and i just keep getting sucked back in.
Was it a group presentation? Speaking as an introvert, if I spent 4+ days working with people on a group project, I would need a few days of pure silence to recoup. That she's also off social networks is likely a good sign - she's trying to create time that's uniquely hers.
I have had some epic big projects in my work career and I just shut down for a week after they were done. Friends, Family, they all thought I died... sometimes it just takes it all out of you. If she is not posting on social media then I would safely assume she is just taking a break from everything to catch a breath.
Absolutely go! Even though I recommended you stay away from women for a bit, what I was really saying was you should see women as long as your head is straight. If you can treat this girl as someone to have fun with and not someone to get over loneliness with, then you're fine to play the game. You're not supposed to swear off women, you're supposed to swear off your dependence on them towards caring about yourself.i'm definitely going. i keep swearing off women and i just keep getting sucked back in.
Date went well.
She's not entirely my type, but she seems fun enough I guess.
We'll see how it goes, but I can tell she's really into me.
Absolutely go! Even though I recommended you stay away from women for a bit, what I was really saying was you should see women as long as your head is straight. If you can treat this girl as someone to have fun with and not someone to get over loneliness with, then you're fine to play the game. You're not supposed to swear off women, you're supposed to swear off your dependence on them towards caring about yourself.
I could use some feedback here. Or maybe this is just venting. I dunno. But I need to say something to someone.
Girl and I have been out on four dates prior to this. Tonight was the fifth. She's a working single mom, so we can only meet on weekends. She broke up with her ex because he was cheating on her. I mention this because she admitted to having barriers up and some trust issues.
So, tonight's date. After dinner, we sat in her car for a bit. And we talked. Asked her if I could see her again next week, and she said "maybe. I'm still trying to figure out what I think about you." We then made out for 30 minutes.
What should I make of that? My current feeling is that she's working out whether she wants to move things to another level or break it off entirely. A "shit or get off the pot" moment.
2.5-3 years ago. He cheated on her while she was pregnant with his kid. I have no problem with the emotional guards...I just don't want her to break up with me because she fears I'm a bad guy. I'm not. But I don't really know how to show her that.
Last night she asked if I went there to procure a hooker. Yeah.
So, update to this. Texted the girl tonight, her replies were more terse than usual. She decided to bow out of the relationship, as it "wasn't the right relationship for her right now". Based on how previous relationships of hers went, I'm guessing she doesn't know what kind of relationship she does want.
Probably for the best. While I would've worked with her through the trust issues, there's no denying they ran deep. I told her before our first date I took a vacation to Las Vegas. Last night she asked if I went there to procure a hooker. Yeah.
wow...
I am sorry. Just let her know you were willing to try and leave it at that.
There is a Vegas GAF meet up in the works you should go.
Hey Dating-GAF, long time no see!
So for the first time in...years, literally, I have a girl in sight, a coworker (don't worry, it's just a retail job that I'll be leaving within 6 months to a year with no possibility of keeping it beyond that, and if it came to that a transfer would be incredibly easy). She's actually been giving signs of interests since a few weeks before the holidays and has been starting text conversations with me often, which last week escalated to basically texting on a daily basis, for at least a few hours on a given day (by now, I'd say 70% initiated by her, 30% by me). She also tried, once last week, to meet at school but I was at work at the time so I couldn't make it. In person, she seems pretty flirty and fun, no problem there. I've been pretty convinced that she's into me for a while now.
Yesterday I told her she should come along to an activity I went to with some friends; she refused (no big deal, she did say she was behind on her studies previously) and kept initiating texts throughout the day. Today, however, she's been silent for the first time in over a week. I tried initiating, she still replied quickly but I sensed her tone somewhat more distant than usual, making it hard to keep going longer than a few messages.
So from here, I'm not sure how I should respond. I know I screwed up, but I'm not sure if I should try to set up an actual one-on-one date (which could be the answer if she thinks I'm not direct enough, but could also make me look desperate or needy), or if I should lay back and give her space and try again in a while. Or could the ship have sailed for good? As it happens, our work schedules were completely different last week and this week; I won't be seeing her at work until next Tuesday.
Any cool insight from Dating-GAF? Thanks!
Hey Dating-GAF, long time no see!
So for the first time in...years, literally, I have a girl in sight, a coworker (don't worry, it's just a retail job that I'll be leaving within 6 months to a year with no possibility of keeping it beyond that, and if it came to that a transfer would be incredibly easy). She's actually been giving signs of interests since a few weeks before the holidays and has been starting text conversations with me often, which last week escalated to basically texting on a daily basis, for at least a few hours on a given day (by now, I'd say 70% initiated by her, 30% by me). She also tried, once last week, to meet at school but I was at work at the time so I couldn't make it. In person, she seems pretty flirty and fun, no problem there. I've been pretty convinced that she's into me for a while now.
Yesterday I told her she should come along to an activity I went to with some friends; she refused (no big deal, she did say she was behind on her studies previously) and kept initiating texts throughout the day. Today, however, she's been silent for the first time in over a week. I tried initiating, she still replied quickly but I sensed her tone somewhat more distant than usual, making it hard to keep going longer than a few messages.
So from here, I'm not sure how I should respond. I know I screwed up, but I'm not sure if I should try to set up an actual one-on-one date (which could be the answer if she thinks I'm not direct enough, but could also make me look desperate or needy), or if I should lay back and give her space and try again in a while. Or could the ship have sailed for good? As it happens, our work schedules were completely different last week and this week; I won't be seeing her at work until next Tuesday.
Any cool insight from Dating-GAF? Thanks!
Hey Dating-GAF, long time no see!
So for the first time in...years, literally, I have a girl in sight, a coworker (don't worry, it's just a retail job that I'll be leaving within 6 months to a year with no possibility of keeping it beyond that, and if it came to that a transfer would be incredibly easy). She's actually been giving signs of interests since a few weeks before the holidays and has been starting text conversations with me often, which last week escalated to basically texting on a daily basis, for at least a few hours on a given day (by now, I'd say 70% initiated by her, 30% by me). She also tried, once last week, to meet at school but I was at work at the time so I couldn't make it. In person, she seems pretty flirty and fun, no problem there. I've been pretty convinced that she's into me for a while now.
Yesterday I told her she should come along to an activity I went to with some friends; she refused (no big deal, she did say she was behind on her studies previously) and kept initiating texts throughout the day. Today, however, she's been silent for the first time in over a week. I tried initiating, she still replied quickly but I sensed her tone somewhat more distant than usual, making it hard to keep going longer than a few messages.
So from here, I'm not sure how I should respond. I know I screwed up, but I'm not sure if I should try to set up an actual one-on-one date (which could be the answer if she thinks I'm not direct enough, but could also make me look desperate or needy), or if I should lay back and give her space and try again in a while. Or could the ship have sailed for good? As it happens, our work schedules were completely different last week and this week; I won't be seeing her at work until next Tuesday.
Any cool insight from Dating-GAF? Thanks!