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[richiek]

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/06/pope-francis-parents-ok-smack-children-dignity

Pope Francis told parents it is OK to spank their children to discipline them – as long as their dignity is maintained.

Francis made the remarks this week during his weekly general audience, which was devoted to the role of fathers in the family.

Francis outlined the traits of a good father: one who forgives but is able to “correct with firmness” while not discouraging the child.

“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said.

“How beautiful.” he added. “He knows the sense of dignity! He has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.”

Oh, Frankie. You were having such a good run, too.

 

[Strax]

Also long as dignity is maintained.

Sure.

-_-

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Abuse children, but keep it hidden.

Sounds about right.

 

[Deleted member 102362]

Don't think anyone remains "dignified" during child abuse.

 

[Deleted member 13876]

So dress the kid up in a suit and present him with the ceremonial whacking paddle? Popo please.

 

[Syntsui]

And here we go...

 

[Subpar Spatula]

I am shocked the leader of Catholicism has some bad views.

 

[Siegcram]

Fuck you, old man.

 

[TheExecutive]

I have no problem with spanking. Punishment as well as reinforcement have their place in discipline.

 

[Elchele]

Spanking kids is quite normal in Latin America. Is basically the norm.

 

[ManDudeChild]

tl;dr - not in the face

 

[shadowsdarknes]

Is this one of those cultural relativism things?

 

[DrForester]

Nice, exaggerated title there...

 

[Kinitari]

Yeah, I don't know if that statement was particularly beautiful pope. I know you're one of those, beauty-in-plastic-bag-flying-around sorts of fellas, but this is... maybe too far.

 

[John Kowalski]

Officially the worst pope ever.

 

[braves01]

Ah, a spanking thread. I'd say this thread lasts at least twelve 50-post pages.

 

[Two Words]

Or, you know, talk to them.

 

[Ladekabel]

Is that the reason why priests are allowed to abuse children because when the church would call them out it would damage their "dignity"?

 

[Yaponchik]

I got spanked when i deserved as a child... guess what, i survived.
And of course i'll spank my children whenever they deserve.

 

[El Topo]

It is nonetheless illegal in many countries.

 

[NonexistentK]

what happened to this guy, he used to be cool.

 

[Siegcram]

I have no problem with spanking. Punishment as well as reinforcement have their place in discipline.

And hitting your child is neither.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

I got spanked when i deserved as a child... guess what, i survived.

We can check off "My parents did it and I turned out fine" from the bingo card.

 

[TheExecutive]

It is nonetheless illegal in many countries.

Curious... What countries?

 

[Courage]

“How beautiful.” he added. “He knows the sense of dignity! He has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.”

The beauty of hitting your child.

 

[……forgetit]

 

[Tallshortman]

The amount of people in here who think a small spanking on the butt is child abuse is astounding.

 

[Wreav]

Don't think anyone remains "dignified" during child abuse.

Spanking is not child abuse if done properly, you dense buffoons.

 

[CadetMahoney]

what happened to this guy, he used to be cool.

he's trolling ya'll, saying some random shit then laying the smack down:

 

[PhantomHound]

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

Oh boy another spanking thread where some will say how they were and grew up just fine and others will call it psychologically damaging child abuse! I'm going to leave before I get too angry

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

Abuse children, but keep it hidden.

Sounds about right.

Spanking is abuse?

The amount of people in here who think a small spanking on the butt is child abuse is astounding.

Nod.

 

[ShemhazaiX]

Personally I have no problem with this. There is a difference between discipline and child abuse. Of course what I consider to be smacking a child is fairly tame. It's more just a firm tap round the face or backside. Nothing hard enough to leave a mark or sting, just something to shock the kid into stopping whatever it's doing. My parents did it to me, and it's not like I didn't deserve it when they did, and I've turned out fine (I think).

 

[El Topo]

Curious... What countries?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment_in_the_home

 

[TheExecutive]

And hitting your child is neither.

It falls under the category of positive punishment actually.

 

[deadlast]

I got spanked when i deserved as a child... guess what, i survived.
And of course i'll spank my children whenever they deserve.

I survived too. It was my mom's only discipline tool. I, however, use the threat of spanking 100x more than I actually spank. I also use timeouts, redirection, and taking stuff away. I also raise my voice. I need to stop raising my voice. I feel that is far worse than anything else.

 

[archnemesis]

The pope is a horrible person for promoting child abuse. Let's just accept that this guy will be as bad as the previous guy.

 

[moggio]

I got spanked when i deserved as a child... guess what, i survived.
And of course i'll spank my children whenever they deserve.

Yet if you did the same to an adult you'd be charged with assault.

But, hey, I'm glad you want to physically assault your children when you think they deserve it.

 

[Chariot]

Jesus Christ, Francis! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU LATETLY

 

[Woody Invincible]

Oh boy another spanking thread where some will say how they were and grew up just fine and orhers will call it psychologically damaging child abuse! I'm going to leave before I get too angry

Yep, maybe the most polarizing subject on gaf.

 

[PhantomHound]

Yet if you did the same to an adult you'd be charged with assault.

But, hey, I'm glad you want to physically assault your children when you think they deserve it.

Some people pay to get spanked.

 

[QuickSilverD]

Don't think anyone remains "dignified" during child abuse.

spanking is not child abuse

 

[braves01]

Spanking is abuse?

Yes, you must appeal to your 5 year-old's fully-developed sense of logic and reason in order to teach them to change their ways.

 

[Arrogant Bastard]

The pope is a horrible person for promoting child abuse. Let's just accept that this guy will be as bad as the previous guy.

How about we don't accept that because he isn't...

 

[Fladam]

What is going on with this guy?

He's gotta be working with NBC

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Spanking is abuse?

The quote says "smacking, but not in the face."

That doesn't automatically equal spanking to me.

 

[m_shortpants]

I don't really have a problem with light spanking on the bottom if all other means of discipline are ineffective.

 

[Hari Seldon]

Yet if you did the same to an adult you'd be charged with assault.

But, hey, I'm glad you want to physically assault your children when you think they deserve it.

Children aren't adults bro.

 

[esms]

Oh boy, another spanking thread where people equate it to child abuse. I guess I'll just wait for the entertainment.

 

[Alx]

The amount of people in here who think a small spanking on the butt is child abuse is astounding.

Well it is an opinion in many countries that even spanking is a child abuse, and it's something worth discussing. But let's not act as if physical punishment is always the equivalent of whipping your kid with a belt.
There is a whole range of punishment, from the tap on the hand, spanking on the back (with different ways to do it too), slapping on the face, real hitting and all higher levels that are undisputedly child abuse.