White smoke emerges as a new pope is elected
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Jinzo Prime
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Robert Sarah might have more influence in the shadows than theMeh, i wanted that black super conservative guy to win just to see wokes crying in anguish, imagine the lulz
How conservative is the new dude?
Audiophile
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Nydius
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Meh, i wanted that black super conservative guy to win just to see wokes crying in anguish, imagine the lulz
How conservative is the new dude?
Not delving into politics, just answering the question:
He has publicly opposed ordaining women and is staunchly anti-abortion. Back in 2012 he spoke out against homosexuality in media and during his time in Peru he publicly opposed the inclusion of gender ideology curriculum in schools. But he's also socially 'liberal' when it comes to issues like immigration and climate change. However all of this this is in line with Catholic doctrine, so it's not so simple as the American political conservative/liberal divide. I can't really find anything he's said in the past that runs afoul of Canon Law or the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
Most of his policy statements were made years ago though, so it remains to be seen if he's since changed positions. Only time will tell.
Nydius
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Toons
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Meh, i wanted that black super conservative guy to win just to see wokes crying in anguish, imagine the lulz
How conservative is the new dude?
If a black guy got picked as pope; trust me it wouldn't just be woke people crying lol.
GymWolf
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I can enjoy tears from both extremist sides
I will never understand why one of the symbols of Chicago is a giant silver milk dud.
Tams
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Raven117
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If you want the real answer, it's because the shape and reflection allows one to see the most of the Chicago skyline (which they are proud of).
Men_in_Boxes
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I know a priest who's very conservative and he says the new guy is a moderate - more conservative than Pope Francis.
Sounds like the media is trying to claim him as one of them as the media will do.
Raven117
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I mean, if one actually read what Francis wrote, he wasn't some super left either.
That said both Francis and Leo skew more towards a modern interpretation of the church rather than some others who literally want to go backwards. That's the most important part. The rest, will be issue by issue.
(And besides, religious figures and their stances are fundamentally different from those of politics. Different approach, considerations, and motivations)
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Men_in_Boxes
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The Pope is a political figure, not a religious one. Pope's are subject to modern politics just like everyone else. His job is to bring money into the Catholic Church, not to save souls.
Raven117
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Yes. But also no.
The pope is absolutely a religious figure. To say otherwise reveals a lot about you and how you view religion. Moreover, this fundamental misunderstanding, renders your opinion worthless on the matter.
Your mind is rotting with politics.
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Men_in_Boxes
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Or is your mind rotting with religion?
Nydius
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The Great Pizza Schism of 2025. Leading to new splinter parishes like Our Lady of the Sacred Neapolitan.
Raven117
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This is not as clever as a response as you think it is.
I was merely stating that the pope is in fact a religious figure. He absolutely is. This is 100 percent fact. Are there other considerations, of course. But it doesn't change the fact he is a spiritual leader. (Whether one follows or not is completely up to them).
You, on the other hand, have refused to accept this and instead have allowed politics seed in your mind where you can no longer view things through a different lens.
You are sad, pathetic, and need to reevaluate how you relate to the world.
Bro wut? He is the leader of a sovereign city state and the vicar of Christ. He is a spiritual leader to billions of people worldwide.
GymWolf
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Nobody expect the spanish bragging.
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AJUMP23
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Imagine having to go to Thanksgiving with the POPE. "When are you going to make something of yourself? Your little brother is the pope and what are you, retired in Florida!"
GymWolf
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Another way of seeing this is that the dude is the headchief of fairytales lalaland and he is gonna be under everyone scrutiny 24\7 and unable to even enjoy a vacancy for the rest of his life while he can relax and enjoy the old age in peace.
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p_xavier
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65 millions of latinos. Latinos are mostly catholic.
Hudo
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AJUMP23
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To US Catholics he is. To Protestants like me.....nope. I think the last few popes have done more harm to Christianity than good. Also Papal doctrine is a complete misinterpretation of Christ's statement in the Gospel.
There are downsides. but you do get access to the secret vault, and some cool things. I hope he teaches those Italian cooks about Turkey and stuffing.
Nydius
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I recall reading a Pew Religious Landscape survey last year that mentioned of the 62% of Americans who called themselves Christian, 40% are Protestant, 19% are Catholic, and 3% were "other".
But, if compared by denominations and we consider Catholicism as "just another denomination", it would be the single largest Christian denomination in the United States, with ~53m Catholics. The largest Protestant denomination is the Southern Baptist Convention with ~13m members.
GateofD
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Dave was bragging to his boss one day, "You know, I know everyone there is to know. Just name someone, anyone, and I know them."
Tired of his boasting, his boss called his bluff, "OK, Dave, how about Tom Cruise?"
"No dramas boss, Tom and I are old friends, and I can prove it." So Dave and his boss fly out to Hollywood and knock on Tom Cruise's door, and Tom Cruise shouts,
"Dave! What's happening? Great to see you! Come on in for a beer!"
Although impressed, Dave's boss is still skeptical. After they leave Cruise's house, he tells Dave that he thinks him knowing Cruise was just lucky.
"No, no, just name anyone else," Dave says.
"President Trump," his boss quickly retorts.
"Yup," Dave says, "Old buddies, let's fly out to Washington," and off they go.
At the White House, Obama spots Dave on the tour and motions him and his boss over, saying, "Dave, what a surprise, I was just on my way to a meeting, but you and your friend come on in and let's have a beer first and catch up."
Well, the boss is very shaken by now but still not totally convinced. After they leave the White House grounds he expresses his doubts to Dave, who again implores him to name anyone else.
"Pope Leo," his boss replies.
"Sure!" says Dave. "I've known Leo for years." So off they fly to Rome.
Dave and his boss are assembled with the masses at the Vatican's St. Peter's Square when Dave says, "This will never work. I can't catch the Pope's eye among all these people. Tell you what, I know all the guards so let me just go upstairs and I'll come out on the balcony with the Pope." He disappears into the crowd headed towards the Vatican.
Sure enough, half an hour later Dave emerges with the Pope on the balcony, but by the time Dave returns, he finds that his boss has had a heart attack and is surrounded by paramedics.
Making his way to his boss' side, Dave asks him, "What happened?"
His boss looks up and says, "It was the final straw... you and the Pope came out on to the balcony and the man next to me said, 'Who the fuck is that on the balcony with Dave?'
Tired of his boasting, his boss called his bluff, "OK, Dave, how about Tom Cruise?"
"No dramas boss, Tom and I are old friends, and I can prove it." So Dave and his boss fly out to Hollywood and knock on Tom Cruise's door, and Tom Cruise shouts,
"Dave! What's happening? Great to see you! Come on in for a beer!"
Although impressed, Dave's boss is still skeptical. After they leave Cruise's house, he tells Dave that he thinks him knowing Cruise was just lucky.
"No, no, just name anyone else," Dave says.
"President Trump," his boss quickly retorts.
"Yup," Dave says, "Old buddies, let's fly out to Washington," and off they go.
At the White House, Obama spots Dave on the tour and motions him and his boss over, saying, "Dave, what a surprise, I was just on my way to a meeting, but you and your friend come on in and let's have a beer first and catch up."
Well, the boss is very shaken by now but still not totally convinced. After they leave the White House grounds he expresses his doubts to Dave, who again implores him to name anyone else.
"Pope Leo," his boss replies.
"Sure!" says Dave. "I've known Leo for years." So off they fly to Rome.
Dave and his boss are assembled with the masses at the Vatican's St. Peter's Square when Dave says, "This will never work. I can't catch the Pope's eye among all these people. Tell you what, I know all the guards so let me just go upstairs and I'll come out on the balcony with the Pope." He disappears into the crowd headed towards the Vatican.
Sure enough, half an hour later Dave emerges with the Pope on the balcony, but by the time Dave returns, he finds that his boss has had a heart attack and is surrounded by paramedics.
Making his way to his boss' side, Dave asks him, "What happened?"
His boss looks up and says, "It was the final straw... you and the Pope came out on to the balcony and the man next to me said, 'Who the fuck is that on the balcony with Dave?'