Ultimate is the definitive modern Spider-Man.
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Spider-Man: Dylan OBrien & Logan Lerman Being Eyed for MCU Reboot
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Ultimate is the definitive modern Spider-Man.
False again. Especially on Thor, Iron Man, and Captain America. And the Avengers only used the Chiturai as stand in for any invading aliens.The first 3 years of the classic Stan Lee run he was a high-schooler. A ton of the most iconic Spider-Man stories happened as part of that era.
Edit: Not to mention pretty much the entire run of Ultimate Spider-Man, and Marvel has often used the Ultimate comics as the basis for their movies (Thor, Iron Man, Captain America, and the Avengers in general were heavily based on their Ultimate counterparts).
Ultimate is the definitive modern Spider-Man.
I am suprised how anyone can be against high-school era Parker after reading Ultimate.
False again. Especially on Thor, Iron Man, and Captain America. And the Avengers only used the Chiturai as stand in for any invading aliens.
Mark Millar himself says Ulimates was the basis for the MCU Avengers.
Ultimate is the definitive modern Spider-Man.
Eh, I wouldn't agree. Most people, including myself stuck with the Amazing series primarily. Even after they did that witch/magic/reboot thing.
Why is that somehow better than high school era Parker? From the casting names being mentioned by Variety not to mention the Sony leaks of Marvel wanting Spider-Man to be a high-schooler is pretty clear that is where they are going.
Because I've seen high school Parker in the cinemas now on two occasions.
Spider-Man for a lot of his run is a high schooler.
that's not correct at all. he graduated from college in like... the 70s.
Eh, I wouldn't agree. Most people, including myself stuck with the Amazing series primarily. Even after they did that witch/magic/reboot thing.
Actually up until Jeph Loeb ran the Ultimate universe in the ground with Ultimatium Ultimate Spider-Man was pretty consistently outselling Amazing Spider-Man
Actually up until Jeph Loeb ran the Ultimate universe in the ground with Ultimatium Ultimate Spider-Man was pretty consistently outselling Amazing Spider-Man
Again, that really doesn't matter. Comic sales don't equate to how they approach a film. The most notable version of Spider-man is him as an adult, and that is what most people want to see after only getting a taste.
I am suprised how anyone can be against high-school era Parker after reading Ultimate.
Mark Millar himself says Ulimates was the basis for the MCU Avengers.
Mark Millar who hasn't had anything to do with the MCU Films? The Mark Millar Fox hired to mold their cinemetic universe, yet Brian Singer doesn't even know who he is? That Mark Millar?
Millar says a lot of things.
Nobody is an ignorant asshole in the MCU, that invalidates any relation to the Ultimate Universe right there.
Ultimate is the definitive modern Spider-Man.
Yeah, all popular modern Peter Parkers are going to Highschool now.
Mark Millar himself says Ulimates was the basis for the MCU Avengers.
Since when is Mark Miller working on MCU Movies?
I am unsure where you get the idea that is what most people want to see. What you want to see? Sure. But I don't see the majority clamoring for an adult Spider-Man anywhere. I mean Marvel themselves in the leaks clearly want Spidey to be a high-schooler in the films.Again, that really doesn't matter. Comic sales don't equate to how they approach a film. The most notable version of Spider-man is him as an adult, and that is what most people want to see after only getting a taste.
I would argue the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko Spider-Man is just as iconic and notable.
Mark Millar talking out of his ass? That's never happened before....Mark Millar himself says Ulimates was the basis for the MCU Avengers.
You don't have to take Millar's word on it, you can just actually read the comics themselves to see that, with the exception of Fury and Hawkeye, none of the Avengers are like their Ultimate counterparts.
Zen_Arcade
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I'd say the most notable version of Spider-Man was from the original movie series, and he was in high school for at least the first movie.Again, that really doesn't matter. Comic sales don't equate to how they approach a film. The most notable version of Spider-man is him as an adult, and that is what most people want to see after only getting a taste.
Mark Millar talking out of his ass? That's never happened before....
You don't have to take Millar's word on it, you can just actually read the comics themselves to see that, with the exception of Fury and Hawkeye, none of the Avengers are like their Ultimate counterparts.
Praise jeebus
I am unsure where you get the idea that is what most people want to see.
I would argue the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko Spider-Man is just as iconic and notable.
Because most people want to see Spider-Man doing Spider-Man things, without a reboot from Point A?
It is iconic, but Amazing/dalies are still the widest exposure to the largest audience for the character.
I'd say the most notable version of Spider-Man was from the original movie series, and he was in high school for at least the first movie.
For like 30 minutes.
Wafflecakes
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I'd say the most notable version of Spider-Man was from the original movie series, and he was in high school for at least the first movie.
yup
I think everyone knew deep down that we would see a reboot starting with the origin story, again. Only seen O'Brien in the Internship lol, but I think he looks more the part of Peter. Lerman was real good in Perks of Being a Wallflower. I'm just praying we don't get another Green Goblin. Im before another Green Goblin. Give me hob goblin at least.
I'd say the most notable version of Spider-Man was from the original movie series, and he was in high school for at least the first movie.
If we aren't talking about comic books and overall, you are correct! It moved on pretty quickly from that and got into the meat and potatoes.
RIP Raimi
Zen_Arcade
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He was still high school age for the whole movie. He doesn't need to actually be in the school the entire time to be a high school kid.For like 30 minutes.
Oh, you were only talking about the comics. Yeah, that's way more debatable. There are tons of recognizable stories where Peter isn't in high school. Still, with how he's presented outside of the comics I'd say the general public knows him more as a teenager/early adult then him being in his 30's.If we aren't talking about comic books and overall, you are correct! It moved on pretty quickly from that and got into the meat and potatoes.
RIP Raimi
Because most people want to see Spider-Man doing Spider-Man things, without a reboot from Point A?
How can he not do Spider-Man things as a high-schooler? He worked for the Daily Bugle, had lady troubles, fought villains like Doc Ock, Green Goblin, The Lizard, etc all as a high-schooler.
I highly doubt they are going back to Point A. I am assuming they will be skipping the origin.
You'd be wrong, the previous Ultimates stuff in this thread is complete bullshit in reference to Avengers but Ultimate Spider-Man is insanely popular and is Spider-Man for a lot of people. It will inform the new MCU Spider-Man to a large degree.Eh, I wouldn't agree.
Also lol @ Spider-Man apparently not doing Spider-Man not doing "Spider-Man things" in high school, read Ultimate. Or better yet watch Spectacular.
He was still high school age for the whole movie. He doesn't need to actually be in the school the entire time to be a high school kid.
Still, wasnt portraied as high school aged.
Zen_Arcade
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How was he not? He went to school, had a part time job, got bit on a field trip, and had a high school sweet heart.Still, wasnt portraied as high school aged.
That's like, Americana High School in a nutshell minus the radioactive spider.
I'd advise those doubting Dylan O'Brien's dramatic chops to watch some of his serious scenes in Teen Wolf:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4YRGa8yWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9S4daCFno
Spoilers, obviously. I think he'd be an awesome Spiderman.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4YRGa8yWo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QC9S4daCFno
Spoilers, obviously. I think he'd be an awesome Spiderman.
You'd be wrong, the previous Ultimates stuff in this thread is complete bullshit in reference to Avengers but Ultimate Spider-Man is insanely popular and is Spider-Man for a lot of people. It will inform the new MCU Spider-Man to a large degree.
Also lol @ Spider-Man apparently not doing Spider-Man not doing "Spider-Man things" in high school, read Ultimate. Or better yet watch Spectacular.
Again, things nobody gives a damn about when it comes to the creation of him in the MCU.
How was he not? He went to school, had a part time job, got bit on a field trip, and had a high school sweet heart.
That's like, Americana High School in a nutshell minus the radioactive spider.
And lasted for 30 minutes and was never mentioned again.
Wafflecakes
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Not sure why people are so opposed to a young spider-man.
It isn't like we have an overabundance of young super heroes.
If anything an older spidey would be redundant, lazy, and boring.
It isn't like we have an overabundance of young super heroes.
If anything an older spidey would be redundant, lazy, and boring.
Brutalitops
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I want them to cast either a white Miles Morales or a black Peter Parker. Either will get guaranteed meltdowns by racists somewhere.
Zen_Arcade
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So what? His age didn't magically change 30 minutes into the movie. If he was 17 for the first 30 minutes then he was the exact same age for the rest of the movie. He was the age of a high schooler the entire time.And lasted for 30 minutes and was never mentioned again.
brandonh83
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I have this sinking feeling that I'll just have to get used to Lerman playing my favorite superhero. I don't think they'd cast Dylan over him due to Lerman's work history and experience. Not that Lerman is going to get it himself, but if it's between those two it's obvious who they'd pick.
Again, things nobody gives a damn about when it comes to the creation of him in the MCU.
No one? Marvel pretty clearly was insistent on Parker being a high-schooler for a Spider-Man MCU reboot in the Sony leaks. Marvel cares, which is a pretty important part.
If anything an older spidey would be redundant, lazy, and boring.
Best Spidey storys happened after he was out of school?
I want them to cast either a white Miles Morales or a black Peter Parker. Either will get guaranteed meltdowns by racists somewhere.
Hell no to a black spiderman. I would feel too uncomfortable in the cinemas watching the NYPD be his friend.
Again, things nobody gives a damn about when it comes to the creation of him in the MCU.
Again, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Wafflecakes
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Best Spidey storys happened after he was out of school?
It is marvel. We will have plenty of time for that..... it isn't like the franchises have an expiration date.
No one? Marvel pretty clearly was insistent on Parker being a high-schooler for a Spider-Man MCU reboot in the Sony leaks. Marvel cares, which is a pretty important part.
High school doesn't equal Ultimate Spiderman. Again...people are trying to compare two different entities. Comics aren't being used verbatim here.
Again, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Well that is a productive post.
brandonh83
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It is marvel. We will have plenty of time for that..... it isn't like the franchises have an expiration date.
According to many, there can be a billion different comic stories featuring the same superhero but when it comes to movies there can only be one set for some reason and if you reboot you should wait at least 350 years.
Zeus Molecules
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Not sure why people are so opposed to a young spider-man.
It isn't like we have an overabundance of young super heroes.
If anything an older spidey would be redundant, lazy, and boring.
I am just tired of Spiderman origin movies and the subsequent "I am still learning how to be a superhero" movie. Its been the subtext of 4 out of 5 spiderman movies so far.
High school doesn't equal Ultimate Spiderman. Again...people are trying to compare two different entities. Comics aren't being used verbatim here.
I'm not using it verbatim, I'm using to show that there's a shitload of things that can be done with him there since you want to say that nothing worthwhile is gained by having him at that age in that
setting.
It's already known that I won't be an origin.I am just tired of Spiderman origin movies and the subsequent "I am still learning how to be a superhero" movie. Its been the subtext of 4 out of 5 spiderman movies so far.
Wafflecakes
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I am just tired of Spiderman origin movies and the subsequent "I am still learning how to be a superhero" movie. Its been the subtext of 4 out of 5 spiderman movies so far.
They can skip that if they want even if it is a young spider-man (not agreeing that it is a good idea).
However, as I mentioned previously, imo the MCU is desperate for a younger character.
I'm not using it verbatim, I'm using to show that there's a shitload of things that can be done with him there since you want to say that nothing worthwhile is gained by having him at that age in that setting.
I never said that. I said more people are interested him doing things that Spiderman is most notable doing, not Point A.
Tobey Maguire or James Franco didnt looked like 17 years old in the movie. More like mid-twenty.So what? His age didn't magically change 30 minutes into the movie. If he was 17 for the first 30 minutes then he was the exact same age for the rest of the movie. He was the age of a high schooler the entire time.
It is marvel. We will have plenty of time for that..... it isn't like the franchises have an expiration date.
Yes, but I dont want to wait 5 years. Especially when they even clean the slate to jump right in in Spideys story.
I never said that. I said more people are interested him doing things that Spiderman is most notable doing, not Point A.
High school doesn't have to be "Point A". Look at Spectacular, the show's first episode had him as Spider-Man for a year with most of his Rogue's Gallery already established.
miscellaneous
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That Logan Lerman kid is a great actor. He did a wonderful job in Perks of Being a Wallflower. Hope he gets cast.
FireAndBlood
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Maybe this will get teenage girls interested in a marvel film.
Every notable aspect about Spider-Man is doable and has been done with him as a high-schooler:I never said that. I said more people are interested him doing things that Spiderman is most notable doing, not Point A.
1. Fighting villains/crime
2. Having romantic troubles
3. Working for daily bugle
4. Money troubles
5. Wise cracking.
There is nothing notable about the character that isn't doable or has not been done using a high school aged Parker.
Spectacular Spider-Man is a perfect example. Skipped his origin but was a high schooler for the full run of the series.
High school doesn't have to be "Point A". Look at Spectacular, the show's first episode had him as Spider-Man for a year with most of his Rogue's Gallery already established.
...is every one of your responses going to be "look at..."?
I've looked at it al! None of them are films series with two franchises in the past decade.
Wafflecakes
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Yes, but I dont want to wait 5 years. Especially when they even clean the slate to jump right in in Spideys story.
It isn't like they were even going to copy those storylines verbatim anyways.
No reason why they couldn't be adjusted to include a slightly younger Spider-man.
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