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Ready at Dawn responds to "concern" over The Order: 1886 campaign length
- Thread starter DarkLordMalik
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And then the vast majority of the people who buy both those games don't ever finish the single player, that's a fact. The SP makes for better looking advertisements than the multi(Though a lot of COD adverts skew toward the multi).
As someone who doesn't own a PS4 and is unlikely to play The Order any time soon, I felt my 2 cents was well worth contributing to this discussion.
It doesn't matter how long the game is if it's good.
If the gameplay is fun, the campaign is memorable, if the aesthetic and world building is compelling and people have a great time, then that's all that matters.
Sure, the game might have had a tacked on multiplayer mode included which would no doubt warrant a whole separate round of inevitable complaints. But in today's environment where every game has multiplayer and is filled to the brim with DLC knickknacks no-one needs or wants, it's nice to see a developer work on a focussed single player experience.
I've played RADs previous games in other franchises on Wii and PSP. They are always technically accomplished games. Hopefully their first big solo effort is an enjoyable, replayable and subsequently successful game. As someone looking from the sidelines I can see the concerns, but since this is a new IP I'm more likely to give them the benefit of the doubt.
It doesn't matter how long the game is if it's good.
If the gameplay is fun, the campaign is memorable, if the aesthetic and world building is compelling and people have a great time, then that's all that matters.
Sure, the game might have had a tacked on multiplayer mode included which would no doubt warrant a whole separate round of inevitable complaints. But in today's environment where every game has multiplayer and is filled to the brim with DLC knickknacks no-one needs or wants, it's nice to see a developer work on a focussed single player experience.
I've played RADs previous games in other franchises on Wii and PSP. They are always technically accomplished games. Hopefully their first big solo effort is an enjoyable, replayable and subsequently successful game. As someone looking from the sidelines I can see the concerns, but since this is a new IP I'm more likely to give them the benefit of the doubt.
WordsintheWater
Member
You didn't say it had bad gameplay
Haha true that, I didn't like it, but I can't call the gameplay bad because it wasn't. But I can't call the gameplay bad in this either because I haven't played it, just like most of us.
Tainted
Member
Yep, that's exactly what it is. I just re-watched the cutscene in question and it is very heavy on the music....perhaps that music is hard coded into the scene and ignores the ingame sound setting
I then watched some of the other cutscenes, and they appear to have no music at all (ie they are obeying the sound settings)
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
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We'll know on Thurs.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
Edit: Oops wrong thread
TLOU multiplayer was solid and didn't feel it was tacked on at the very end though. If they arent serious about a multiplayer mode they shouldnt do one.
Last Hearth
Member
It's not the fact it's a Sony 1st party. It's all the people that RAD pissed off with their asinine "well, it's a game, we can't get around that" comment. There are a lot of people who are invested in seeing this game flop that would otherwise not care about this game either way.
It's really a lesson in PR for all developers out there. Don't say stupid stuff.
I agree that it shouldn't be implemented at the very end, it's obviously too late now. But with this short a campaign it kinda looks like buying a Gears of war game without the co-op, multiplayer or otherwise. Don't get me wrong, GOW has a good campaign, but I wouldn't purchase it for that alone.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I don't. Never play multiplayer. Gimme a solid single player title, I'm good.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Apparently, it's not like people stuck around for TR's multiplayer or Spec Ops's multiplayer.
There really are. Its like David Cage worked on it or something.
It isn't about not saying stupid stuff but how you say stuff period. The meaning of their comment was pretty innocent but how people twisted it to "they dont care about gameplay" is what hurt them imo.
Super_Cobra
Member
The multiplayer in games like uncharted and the last of us weren't great. I stopped playing them after a few hrs.
I would much rather prefer a coop horde mode for The Order.
I would much rather prefer a coop horde mode for The Order.
The Shogun
Banned
Its not just about people twisting words
The demo's they have shown since the beginning have looked very lackluster and many journalist that have done preview events for it for months have said the gameplay is lacking
I hope it all comes together and is amazing but this isn't just about people trying to trash the game
New Youtube video with just cutscenes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zC5DUctWb0
Time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zC5DUctWb0
Time:
2 hours and 3 minutes
People don't get this worked up just because a game is lackluster.
I disagree about TLOU, but that's an opinion and I respect it. In fact that opinion kinda gels well with the point I made earlier, Sony really needs a good multiplayer shooter, all their other ones are kind of meh on that side of things. As an entirely new IP The Order would have had a good chance of being that.
That being said, I didn't mind that much when it was initially announced that The Order wouldn't have multiplayer because I thought it'd have a long campaign.
Chobel
Member
DAMN!
ConradCervantes
Banned
I think five hours is good enough for a game. Ryse was GOTY last year and it was shorter, albeit even better-looking and more cinematic.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Thats like a movie worth of cutscenes. Perfect.
Wasn't the same demo used for the majority of the conventions they brought the game to?
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
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The Shogun
Banned
Its also a game with a lot of hype / discussion around it in general. Its been announced since the PS4 itself was announced almost and has been considered one Of Sonys major exclusive titles. Naturaly that will stir up a lot of conversation.
If Halo 5 for example sucks or is controversial don't worry there will be some huge threads on it.
SunBroDave
Member
That and just how compelling the story is. When you go see a movie you don't like, it's not a huge deal because you only spent $11 on a ticket. If you pay $60 for a 5-7 hour "movie" and you don't like it, well that's a lot more frustrating.
I wonder if they make you watch the cutscenes again if you fail the QTE's. That's one way to make the game longer.
loaf of bread
Member
Where are you getting this from? The game does not have "such glaring flaws." Every single person who played it so far that we know of said they enjoyed it, recommends it, and would buy a sequel.
Give the length thing a rest already.
I don't want multiplayer if it's not a core focus. Though a horde mode generally fits into single player third person shooter pretty easily.
I'm fine with a strong 10 hour story for 60 bucks. 5 hours is probably worth 30 bucks to me, but we all have our own measure for the worth of a dollar.
I'm fine with a strong 10 hour story for 60 bucks. 5 hours is probably worth 30 bucks to me, but we all have our own measure for the worth of a dollar.
Nah, as a full priced game, I feel it's something to be apprehensive about.
thehillissilent
Member
The problem with this cut is that it doesn't flow as well without the gameplay. He should have edited some gameplay (other than QTEs) in this cut. It would have definitely been longer .
I'm sayin'!! Gimme a good story and make the game fun. I don't care how long, if it's that good, you'll get my money. "But Slixshot, you haven't played the game." Yeah, so? It's my money and I'll do what I want. You have your money and if you're that worried about it, don't preorder the game. <---- That right there would solve a ton of problems.
LookAtMeGo
Member
Why is everyone spoiling themselves? Its a damn shame. If you planned on playing it anyway.
Night Hunter
Banned
And which glaring flaws would that be? Because I just finished it and the game certainly had some problems, nothing major though.
And yes, it was delayed, although only by 2-3 months.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
TLoU isn't trinket-rummaging, for the most part. It's scavenging for supplies: it's an integral part of gameplay. The only trinkets are the firefly emblems and little scraps of paper and the like.
Lack of gameplay variety, length, replay-ability...no?
I'm honestly curiously since you've played it.
Nightengale
Member
What some people perceive as flaws could easily be design decisions on their end.
ChawlieTheFair
pip pip cheerio you slags!
Imru’ al-Qays;152382107 said:
But you're doing the exact same thing, just exploring and waiting to see triangles on random shit, it's not like actual rummaging, it's all contextual.
King Tubby
Member
Don't act like MS 1st party exclusives don't get scrutinized too. And nobody is saying this has to be a perfect game, but if it's as short as 6-8 hours with little variety or replay value then it better be damn good to justify a $60 purchase. That's it. Maybe that's not true for you, but I get the feeling that's true for most people.
Orthogonal
Member
Anyone can post anything. Typically people are honest, but there could be a scenarios where numerous people "troll" it.
no. show me a thread like this. just one
CambriaRising
Member
Imru al-Qays;152382107 said:
I didn't say it was a bad thing. I'm being genuine.
And Peter Molyneux did the marketing for it lol
When I got involved in this game, all I wanted to do was make a cool OT for what I thought would be a cool new IP with a familiar and uncontroversial premise (a fairly standard 3rd person shooter). I had no idea things would get this nuts. 2000+ replies for threads about black bars. QTEs. Cutscenes. Game length.
And we haven't even had the review thread.