Nintendo Explains Where Tingle Came From
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LurkerPrime
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None of this is relevant in Hyrule. Even thinking that such a question needed answering is the height of absurdity.
This line of questioning makes me wonder when Kotaku is going to ask where all of Kirby's inhaled objects go. I anticipate a "I bet he's stuck in a bathroom for a while! It'll be like a bomb went off!"-style quip from the Kotaku side.
Ridiculous.
TouchMyBox
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Does wanting my Tingle/Salvatore slash-fic to be canon make me a terrible person?
Wait, only some people think that Ike is gay? I thought it was pretty obvious. At least Soren was definitely in love with him.
Edit: Regarding Tingle, I remember a lot of people on Facebook being angry when Tingle was announced as a character in Hyrule Warriors. The most common reason was because they thought he was supposed to be a pedophile.
You're wildly over thinking this.
More gay characters would be nice but Tingle isn't the lone one you'd want to hang your hat on.
I think the hate is mostly just people trying too hard to hide their lust for Tingle's bulging spandex-clad body and tight, tight tush
Two Pikachus
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I'm all for bashing Kotaku but neither of those questions is ridiculous. A lot of people want to hear the canon story from the Word of God. For some, "it's a video game" or "it's magic" aren't good enough answers. They want to know the justified "science" behind what happens and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
ORAS has a couple of girls making out in an abandoned ship.
pinkurocket
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Probably because he is flamboyant
Also funny because in that game he shows an interest in girls. ;D
Well that's chicks so it's hot and obviously OK
Also, where the hell was that in ORAS
GameFreak has been getting stuff like that in, wasn't there a hiker character in B&W that was meant to be gay?
Kamina
Golden Boy
Who came up with that retarded idea?
And why complain about an optional DLC character?
I for my part found that Tingle was a funny little character, not more and not less. Now he is an icon.
Icyflamez96
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Am I wrong to see this as a hilariously hypocritical post
Gonzo The Great
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=972590
Well
Totilo's assumption that Tingle is "gay" pretty much solidifies my argument.
What could possibly be hypocritical about stereotyping gamers as stereotyping hypocrites?
Probably because he is a grown man that dresses like Peter Pan, and likes to hang out with kids.
This is as weird as that time someone ask the Ranma 1/2 mangaka (A very old series about a boy who transforms in a women if he to touches cold water and a boy with hot water) what would happen if Ranma get pregnant in his female form and then touches hot water... she was not amused to say the least.
Sometimes "It's Magic" is the best answer... and this one was answered already in a previous games. Sadly America hates Tingle and we weren't blessed with those =/.
Sometimes "It's Magic" is the best answer... and this one was answered already in a previous games. Sadly America hates Tingle and we weren't blessed with those =/.
akidnamededdy
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Back when MM first came out I remember thinking Tingle was supposed to be gay. Chalk it up to western (American) media portraying all gays as eccentric stereotypes I guess. Plus we never got the games that explicitly detail Tingle's lust for ladies, apparently.
Of course that was fifteen years ago now. We all think dumb shit when we're young and relatively sheltered. I never got the gay vibe from any of his later appearances and now that I'm playing MM again I'm realizing it was never really there to begin with.
Of course that was fifteen years ago now. We all think dumb shit when we're young and relatively sheltered. I never got the gay vibe from any of his later appearances and now that I'm playing MM again I'm realizing it was never really there to begin with.
Calamari41
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When does Tingle hang out with kids? The only time I can think of is when you first meet him in Clock Town and he's floating around in the same quadrant as the boss of the Bombers.
He likes the Kokiri so much that he dresses like them. You don't see him actually chasing children but I suppose people just assume that he wants to hang around with them.
I don't think Tingle is a pedophile but some people do, so there must be a reason.
I wish more people would pay attention to these posts. It's frustrating seeing people get baffled or offended at others for thinking Tingle might have supposed to have been gay. People who think that (at least some of them) aren't necessarily thinking "someone who acts like Tingle must be gay." It's more that Tingle is imbued with a lot of characteristics that tend to be used to mock gay people in Japanese media. At least that's why I was wary of the character, because that would have been a shitty move by Nintendo.
Soren probably, I personally think Ike is asexual.
Radiant Dawn did have that lesbian rogue, and Legault may or may have not been bisexual.
PINKLE FTW
Also everything about that game is absolutely amazing!
Even the music is so great and weird - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zxSDctqej4 // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEov8_2lFYc
I said gat damn
also, I just looked up Tingle images and stumbled upon "fan art" of a speedo-clad Ganondorf making out with Tingle
I even had safe search on
InfiniteCombo
Banned
I had no idea who this dude was until about a week ago.
So I started playing Wind Waker HD semi-seriously, and got to my first interaction with him. The only things I thought were: "This dude is pretty odd, but in an amusing way".
Never once did it cross my mind to wonder about his sexual orientation. Which is irrelevant anyway. So what if he was gay? Doesn't take an iota away from his (odd) charm.
So I started playing Wind Waker HD semi-seriously, and got to my first interaction with him. The only things I thought were: "This dude is pretty odd, but in an amusing way".
Never once did it cross my mind to wonder about his sexual orientation. Which is irrelevant anyway. So what if he was gay? Doesn't take an iota away from his (odd) charm.
I recommend you don't turn safe search off, in that case.
Unless that's, like, your thing.
akidnamededdy
Banned
No image search is ever truly "safe."
Maybe he's talking about a hypothetical hypocritical?
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I think people here are being too judgmental towards people who thought that Tingle may have been intended to be a gay character. There is nothing wrong with thinking that Tingle may have been a gay stereotype, nor is this some exclusive American-phenomenon as some have suggested.
It's quite common to see over-the-top gay caricatures in Japanese media...just the other day I was finishing up my Dragon Ball Z marathon, and in the last couple episodes there's a Freddie Mercury Leather Daddy who hits on kid Trunks. I don't think it's some huge stretch to think that Tingle, who has a similar flamboyant personality and has the "childish" element that tends to go hand-in-hand with gay caricatures in Japanese media, may have been partially intended to be a bit of a stereotype. While not of the same level of explicitness, take discussions about Mr. Popo and Jynx. Would you say it's the fault of the observer if they look at those characters and see a racial stereotype? I've seen many discussions about those two where the conversation was turned back around on those who were a bit bothered by how those characters are portrayed, and I see that happening here as well to a lesser extent.
Now, I do think there are those people who see Tingle as a gay stereotype, and hate him not because they find him in bad taste, but just don't like gay people, but I'm going to give most of GAF the benefit of the doubt here and assume that they're not homophobic just because they don't like a video-game character. I myself love Tingle, I'm mad as hell his games didn't come here thanks to IGN's smear campaign, and I wanted him in Smash Brothers. But I definitely can understand why some people might see him as a negative stereotype that conflates homosexuality with weirdness (and pedophilia, as the Dragon Ball example shows), and I respect that people can have that opinion. Remember, the games where Tingle hooks up with girls are unknown to much of the West...even in the countries they were released in, I imagine they're far more niche than mainstream Zelda, and looking at the covers of both, it's easy to see why the impression remains.
It's quite common to see over-the-top gay caricatures in Japanese media...just the other day I was finishing up my Dragon Ball Z marathon, and in the last couple episodes there's a Freddie Mercury Leather Daddy who hits on kid Trunks. I don't think it's some huge stretch to think that Tingle, who has a similar flamboyant personality and has the "childish" element that tends to go hand-in-hand with gay caricatures in Japanese media, may have been partially intended to be a bit of a stereotype. While not of the same level of explicitness, take discussions about Mr. Popo and Jynx. Would you say it's the fault of the observer if they look at those characters and see a racial stereotype? I've seen many discussions about those two where the conversation was turned back around on those who were a bit bothered by how those characters are portrayed, and I see that happening here as well to a lesser extent.
Now, I do think there are those people who see Tingle as a gay stereotype, and hate him not because they find him in bad taste, but just don't like gay people, but I'm going to give most of GAF the benefit of the doubt here and assume that they're not homophobic just because they don't like a video-game character. I myself love Tingle, I'm mad as hell his games didn't come here thanks to IGN's smear campaign, and I wanted him in Smash Brothers. But I definitely can understand why some people might see him as a negative stereotype that conflates homosexuality with weirdness (and pedophilia, as the Dragon Ball example shows), and I respect that people can have that opinion. Remember, the games where Tingle hooks up with girls are unknown to much of the West...even in the countries they were released in, I imagine they're far more niche than mainstream Zelda, and looking at the covers of both, it's easy to see why the impression remains.
pinkurocket
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PINKLE FTW
Also everything about that game is absolutely amazing!
Even the music is so great and weird - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zxSDctqej4 // https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEov8_2lFYc
Yesss. I replayed it last year on my DS. It's so charming and fun. Though I sucked at managing the rupees and guessing what to spend at parts, that gets really difficult. But it's just awesome and hilarious.
Also Pinkle <3
HUELEN10
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Yeah, Tingle isn't gay. I really hate stereotypes, like this, though I'm guilty as well; I thought Bob from Animal Crossing was gay when that game first came out. Is the dislike that people have had over tingle actually related in part to homophobia?mif so, that is a scary thought.
I'm almost afraid to ask but what's the story behind that? wtf
Gonzo The Great
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Thinking that Tingle might be a gay caricature isn't necessarily wrong. Disliking him because of it is what I have a problem with. The amount of homophobia I witnessed after he was unveiled as DLC in Hyrule Warriors was verging on self parody.
I believe that comes from the Japanese stereotypes of gay people supporting human slavery.