Uncharted 4: A Thief's End - The story behind the biggest game of the year
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Well he already does that while sliding on his back in the PSX demo, it wouldn't be that crazy.
Not more than the airplane section in U3
Because one of them is a game and the other is particularly a movie.
Looking forward to it yeah, But I agree that it's not the biggest game of the years.. My Arse twice.
BlackBuzzard
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Always somebody falls victim to Chinner.
joey_bone_bomb
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They mention how Uncharted has evolved and that number 4 won't be very "Uncharted" any more.
I honestly think we have Tomb Raider 2013 to thank for that, since it improved on the Uncharted formula so impressively, and managed to actually be a better Uncharted than any of the Uncharteds are.
I honestly think we have Tomb Raider 2013 to thank for that, since it improved on the Uncharted formula so impressively, and managed to actually be a better Uncharted than any of the Uncharteds are.
BlackBuzzard
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Yeah i am going to heaviily disagree with that. Uncharted 2 is still far better then Tomb Raider.
Yeah, I unfortunately didn't like Tomb Raider that much even though I'm a fan of the genre.
I'm not suggesting that they are blind to what others are doing. But if your last two games you worked on were this well received by the enthusiast press, your peers and the enthusiast player base then you're probably on the influential side of the influantial-influenced continuum.
I think we have TLOU to thank more than anything else. They are essentially taking TLOU's open level design, AI, and stealth mechanics and injecting them into beefed-up Uncharted traversal.
The TR reboot was great, but imo Uncharted trumps it. Both go for two very different experiences though...
No, not at all. He was one of two lead designers. The other being Richard Lemarchand who would go on to design UC3 and then leave for USC.
Chuck Norris
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Considering TLOU outsold Battlefield 4 at last count, you are making some big assumptions there
To me, Uncharted games have always been like great summer blockbusters. They're really fun, highly polished games that lack any depth and the shooting sucks. And that's fine with me - I just hope they tone down the bullet sponge waves of enemies which was the worst part of the previous games.
I was just thinking that they stopped Jak and Daxter and moved on to Uncharted, although I have no idea how profitable that series was compared to Uncharted, so the possibility might exist. Maybe putting the series on hiatus might be more probable. Or do what Bethesda does, and alternate.
I wonder how much leeway they have with Sony if they decided to stop and and do a new IP all together, both teams working on something new?
I'm curious to see where the story goes with Uncharted 4. Not even Lucas and Spielberg could keep the quality consistent throughout the series. We'll see. In the meantime, I'm going to enjoy the excitement.
The Artisan
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SolidSnakex
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The Jak series had dropped off in quality and in sales over the year. Uncharted has only continued to get more popular.
They apparently have enough power to stop another Uncharted Vita from happening due to them not wanting the series to get to a burnout point due to too many games. I don't expect this to be the last Uncharted, but I do think it'll go on an extended break after this one. We know that they're already working on another large scale game, it's highly doubtful that it's going to be another Uncharted. And I doubt that Bruce and Neil will finish this and then start on another one. So, it'll be awhile before we see a new entry after this one.
Uhhh that's not true. Everything I see indicates BF4 far outsold TLoU and that's without counting BF4 digital sales.
The Artisan
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i don't doubt there will be more uncharted games, but this seems to be the last one with nathan drake as the protagonist.
0.1.1.2.3.5.8.13.21.34.55
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I'd like to see them do a volcano eruption: dense ash cloud, lava streams, burning jungle, earthquakes, rock slides, etc.
Mr. PlayStation
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Uncharted2 won GOTY and she was on stage collecting the award from Jake Gylenhaal at the Spike VGA awards in 2009? She is the writer of the Uncharted trilogy, have people truly forgotten who worked on Uncharted 123?
Man Called Aerodynamics
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I know it's way early, but I'm not too thrilled to hear that Elena apparently won't have much of a presence in the game. I'm sure it's going to be awesome anyway, I just love Elena.
Chuck Norris
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Most recent source I could find says 7 million
http://bf4central.com/2014/05/battlefield-4-sells-7-million-2-still-playing/
For TLOU it is 8 million
http://www.playstationlifestyle.net...tered-sales-crosses-1-million-sold-worldwide/
Happy to admit I'm wrong if you have a source that shows BF4 far outselling 8 million
SolidSnakex
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ND haven't said that Elena won't have a presence. That's just the magazine speculating. They aren't talking about Elena, similarly to how they aren't talking about Sully. Right now it's mostly just about Drake and Sam. Nadine and Rafe are the only other two announced characters.
I am having a really hard time figuring out if this is sarcasm.
edit: Looking at your other posts, I think you're serious.
Since UC2 was 30fps and won GOTY that's evidence enough to prove you wrong. In fact the large majority of GAF GOTYs have been 30fps.
The Artisan
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where exactly was it stated that she won't be a main character in Uc4?
except Uc2 never promised to be something more. Having 60fps in an uncharted game would've been amazing.
BlackBuzzard
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Its Chinner. The other 2 however, no clue if they are serious or on the Chinner bait train.
Right but I'd like to know exactly who did what. Honestly, I'm the first one to believe that Hennig is "overrated" but not because I'm biased, I just don't know what was her role. With Legacy of Kain she did such a great job but Jak and Daxter is.. damn, I can save the first but after that they lost a vision, I completely agree with Straley when he talks about these games in the interview for the 30th Anniversary. And then Uncharted, I credit her for the writing of the characters, the first game was also decent gameplay wise but at the same time I can't help but notice how much the game improved with Straley (and Druckmann, but mostly Straley) as Director and how much the game got worse in pace when these 2 guys were moved to TLOU (that guess what, it also has a great pace).
Pace, something someone nailed back with Uncharted 2 and was lost with Uncharted 3, why such a back step, what was the problem, deadline? Unforeseen?
You seem to like a lot ND, LastNac, do you have anything that could help? Interviews, articles..?
Well that's because you're using a year old link. The last I see(from that banned sales site) is it's over 12 million in sales without counting PC digital.
Saint of Killers
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They promised?
BlackBuzzard
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There is a big reason that site banned.
I certainly enjoyed the post more when I thought it might be sarcasm. It's almost to the point where having a 60FPS gaming community distinct from those who are willing to consider other factors in evaluating a game might make sense. I feel like I must be living in another world from some posters whose writing I feel gives lie to the "customer is always right" mantra. Not that I've ever believed it to begin with, but if I ever needed more proof...
I'm really looking forward to UC4 and trust ND will make the right tradeoffs. I see no need to micromanage their creative and technical output.
I can't dispute what you've just said. Sounds the most likely.
I'm just throwing this out there, I think 'A Thief's End' might apply to his brother. Could be totally wrong. Could be Drake, could be Sully. But if it's his bro?
They introduce him. He's a jerk. He's got the Drake charm. He grows on you. You like him. He does something bad. He does something very good. Finds redemption and then - whamo! He get's taken out by Jason Statham (insert big bad), leads up to Uncharted 5: a renewed motivation for Nathan Drake.
None of this actually going to happen. But it's my theory
Or Elena dies, and the brothers Drake finally come together to get the bottom of the family mystery.
IcyRhythms
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biggest game of the year?
This will not sell as well as Batman, COD, Halo 5, or Metal Gear. I doubt it will come to close to being the biggest in scale either. All of the Uncharted games can be beat in 8-10hrs. Less if you know the game well enough. While awesome, they're still very linear. I don't doubt that Uncharted 4 will be less linear than previous entries, but it won't be as open as some of the other games coming this year. If Fallout 4 is announced, it will likely release in October or November and instantly become(at the very least)a nominee for GOTY for gamers and critics alike.
This will not sell as well as Batman, COD, Halo 5, or Metal Gear. I doubt it will come to close to being the biggest in scale either. All of the Uncharted games can be beat in 8-10hrs. Less if you know the game well enough. While awesome, they're still very linear. I don't doubt that Uncharted 4 will be less linear than previous entries, but it won't be as open as some of the other games coming this year. If Fallout 4 is announced, it will likely release in October or November and instantly become(at the very least)a nominee for GOTY for gamers and critics alike.
What a refreshing perspective on GAF.
There are so many games, but for some reason everyone wants to play armchair designer and question every decision.
The shooting is fine, especially in UC II. The bullet sponge wave issue I agree with.
The Artisan
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yes they did...
EDIT: okay they didn't "promise" it but they certainly pushed the 60fps thing at first when the game was first talked about.
they didn't promise it but the fact that they were targeting it in the first place made a lot of people excited of the fact.
I have no idea. I was just talking about in the teaser how they kept saying "one last time" whether or not nate croaks, I think this'll be his last journey into the wilderness.
they certainly give Sam the "scumbag" type of look, and pretty much everybody is expecting him to turn on you at one point. Hell, they may not even be real brothers.
This seems at odds with what I've seen. Where did you get that sense about the sales breakdown?
I just recently purchased a Vita and am considering jumping on this one. I'm just nervous the aiming will be frustrating with the Vita analog sticks.
Doesn't really matter it's still easy to see it's sold far more than 7 million copies.
Saint of Killers
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So it's completely off the table now?
Gyro aiming was great for small aim adjustments in that game.
IcyRhythms
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:-\
You better go and check previous Uncharted sales in comparison to the Halo games over the years. lol
WhiskerFrisker
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I guess Halo 5 will do wonders after Halo 4 and Halo:MCC right? I find it funny people thing Halo 5 will still sell gangbusters.
when xbox had the lead in usa. now lets wait and see
IcyRhythms
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I think it has less to do with that and more to do with Halo being the huge name that it is. You're right, though. Le'ts wait and see.
All those juicy impressions and this is the one thing people care about.
It's to the point where we prefer to talk about people who talk about games, rather than talk about games.