PlayStation 4 hits 20.2 million units sold worldwide (high sodium content warning)

Cyd0nia

Banned
They deserve success for not fucking up like the others but to think that it's already about to outsell lifetime sales of Xbox and Gamecube - which had loads of great must-play games in their lifetime - is a bit sickening.

Hype sells.
 

Kinan

Member
Yay, graph update time:

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Basically no overstocking.
 
Huge surprise, it's like the creation of the universe, it's just rapidly expanding faster and faster!

I love Playstation but I agree it doesn't deserve the sale... not at this point of its lifecycle. There is no noticeable game at all.

It has some great games, are you talking AAA exclusives? Little Big Planet 3 certainly stands out, but the console excels at the niche genres for now, having things like Grim Fandango as a console exclusive is certainly noticeable.
 
So, your opinion for game you didn't touch is what reviewers say about the game? Your statement about those games can't be valid. PS4 has great games since launch, i played about 90% of exclusives. You should try Driveclub or at least, read the opinions in the official thread. You should try The Order! You should try Guilty Gear. As long your opinion is based on reviews..... NO. They won't judge what i must play.
I wouldn't outright dismiss the use of reviews, but Driveclub actually shows exactly why they're so useless sometimes. The game that reviewers played in October is not the game that we're playing today in March. The amount of content, patches and stuff added to the game makes a review from 5 months ago almost wholly useless. If you read a review from October, you'd get a picture of a game that's very different from what it is now in March. It would simply be an inaccurate portrait of the game.
 

CozMick

Banned
They deserve success for not fucking up like the others but to think that it's already about to outsell lifetime sales of Xbox and Gamecube - which had loads of great must-play games in their lifetime - is a bit sickening.

Hype sells.

Hype
Hardware
Exclusives
Better Multi Platform Games
Launch price
Not advertised as a TV box

Yep, sickening.
 

Knuf

Member
Well, damn. I don't read too much into it, but 20 millions already is fucking impressive.
And it's even more impressive considering how consoles have fallen in their homeland: Japan, please.
Also is it now pretty safe to say that PS4 > Wii U + Xbone combined, right?
 

Conduit

Banned
It's more the lineup up until now that's the problem.

Knack sucked.
Killzone sucked (from what I've heard, not my thing so haven't played it).
Infamous was decent, though a step down from 2 in many areas.
Driveclub was broken at launch.
LittleBigPlanet 3 was fairly average from what I've heard (yet to play it myself).
The Order has had a very bad reception (again, just from what I've heard as it's not my thing).

So while the future line up looks promising, the games above looked promising at one point too. I have faith Bloodborne and Persona will deliver at least though.

As i said before and again, butthurt is strong!

Knack is a challenging platformer, really old school.
Killzone SF has a decent and long SP, but MP is great.
InFamous SS is best InFamous for me in the series. Especially feel of using all those powers is great.
Driveclub as a game WAS NOT BROKEN, Online did.
LittleBigPlanet 3 is awesome game. Lower review scores doesn't mean game is worse!
The Order, well, go to official thread. I played it, great game.
 

Mendax

Member
Well, damn. I don't read too much into it, but 20 millions already is fucking impressive.
And it's even more impressive considering how consoles have fallen in their homeland: Japan, please.
Also is it now pretty safe to say that PS4 > Wii U + Xbone combined, right?

very safe

yet again; don't read too much into it :p
 
I agree with him. The PS4 library is abysmal and embarrassing next to the WiiU is even Xbox One first party titles. Most of Sony's have been a huge let down.

You're talking BS. The PS4 library is bigger and more diverse than either. Actually research the titles being released for it each month.
 
Is this a meme at this point?
Playstation has no games has been a meme for a very long time now, nearly a decade. I don't expect that narrative to change anytime soon even though 90% of the games the PS4 has are multiplats with Sony also having a healty amount of legit first party studios and a robust amount of indies thrown in.
 

kinoki

Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
I agree with him. The PS4 library is abysmal and embarrassing next to the WiiU is even Xbox One first party titles. Most of Sony's have been a huge let down.

There are almost twice as many games on PS4 than XBO. Even if you don't like Knack, how do you get that to that the PS4 library is abysmal?
 

Melchiah

Member
I wouldn't outright dismiss the use of reviews, but Driveclub actually shows exactly why they're so useless sometimes. The game that reviewers played in October is not the game that we're playing today in March. The amount of content, patches and stuff added to the game makes a review from 5 months ago almost wholly useless. If you read a review from October, you'd get a picture of a game that's very different from what it is now in March. It would simply be an inaccurate portrait of the game.

Its core gameplay is just as good now as it was on release. The major thing that has changed since then is the online portion, which wasn't even the reason for the bad reviews.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Ah, i see that the "it doesn't deserve the sales" is back in this thread...

contributed with +1 ps4 sale last week and just shipped my ps3 to an ebay buyer.
What gets me is the people here whining about how it's unfair due to the game library. Well face it. People outside the Internet like different things - most of them being the annualized franchises.

Saying the library is abysmal at this point is just ignorant.
 

nib95

Banned
I agree with him. The PS4 library is abysmal and embarrassing next to the WiiU is even Xbox One first party titles. Most of Sony's have been a huge let down.

No it isn't. And yet another person who pretends that third party and multi platform games do not exist. Conveniently.
 

Mendax

Member
either some people here are talking from their hurt feelings, or are looking back at other consoles with rose tinted glasses....

it is a fact that the ps4's current library is way stronger than any other console in history in its second year.

(and it is also a fact that almost no one purchases a console based on review scores of only first party titles.)
 
Since when? the Xbox has consistently been cheaper than PS4 since 10/14.

People are now going where their friends are, which is PS4. Better multiplatform games is just a bonus.

Since Launch?

It did drop the price recently, but at the same time, the Xone has been doing a alot better sales wise vs. the PS4 since then.

Wii is an anomaly. Look at the PS1, PS2, Xbox 360.

I'm not really sure how well you remember the PS1, PS2 era. Exclusive content was a much bigger deal then than it is today, so i'm not sure what your point is.

That was back when games like Metal Gear, GTA, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy were still Sony exclusives.

It was common back then for games to come out on one console first, and then not hit the other consoles for years if at all.

The GCN version of Soul Calibur 2 was the best selling just because you could play as Link. etc.

And the X360 wasn't even a market leader...
 

EGM1966

Member
I agree with him. The PS4 library is abysmal and embarrassing next to the WiiU is even Xbox One first party titles. Most of Sony's have been a huge let down.
Sorry but exclusives are currently ainority factor. The sooner people realize this the better the PS4's library is actually decent as it includes all games released. The majority of purchasers don't give a flying fuck if the game is exclusive or not.

The idea a consoles success is not not deserved if it's down to exclusives is currently archaic in the market.

If the secret to success was well reviewed exclusives Nintendi would be cleaning up every gen.

Their importance has decreased every gen I'd say looking at the sales and which games are the real big sellers.

If you're going to judge PS4 library you have to include all the CoDs, GTAs, Assassins Creeds, Dying Lights and Battlefields as well as all the digital and indie titles.

In totality it's a decent library with a lot of variety.
 

SgtCobra

Member
Remember fellow NeoGAF members, everything under a 8.0 on metacritic is either mediocre, subpar or just plain bad/nonexistent!!
 
Its core gameplay is just as good now as it was on release. The major thing that has changed since then is the online portion, which wasn't even the reason for the bad reviews.
Weather system was added in, which personally felt like it made quite a difference. Biased since I'm part Japanese, but the Japanese tracks were also a huge add.
You're talking BS. The PS4 library is bigger and more diverse than either. Actually research the titles being released for it each month.
Oh come on. It's not bigger. Indies aren't games. We only care about AAA titles here.

I kid. I love my indies
 

Mung

Member
I'm pretty sure that those who bring up 'ps4 has no gamez' do it as they don't have any objective facts to use to shit on the ps4 and thus want to bring the argument towards the subjective,which is opinion based and easier to argue.
 
My PS4 has essentially been a free PS+ game machine for some time now, and that's incredibly disappointing. My Xbox One isn't exactly doing much better, probably worse.

I expect to get back to playing these consoles lot more this year though, so I'm not all that sad about it.
 

MavFan619

Banned
What gets me is the people here whining about how it's unfair due to the game library. Well face it. People outside the Internet like different things - most of them being the annualized franchises.
Par for the course of these PS4 sales threads is they devolve to people who are irrationally angry it's doing well. Meanwhile back to Xenoverse a multiplatform game I'm more than happy to be playing on my PS4 :p
 

Loudninja

Member
Since Launch?

It did drop the price recently, but at the same time, the Xone has been doing a alot better sales wise vs. the PS4 since then.



I'm not really sure how well you remember the PS1, PS2 era. Exclusive content was a much bigger deal then than it is today, so i'm not sure what your point is.

That was back when games like Metal Gear, GTA, Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy were still Sony exclusives.

It was common back then for games to come out on one console first, and then not hit the other consoles for years if at all.

The GCN version of Soul Calibur 2 was the best selling just because you could play as Link. etc.

And the X360 wasn't even a market leader...
Not in the UK atleast.
 

Elfstruck

Member
The only Sony's 'next-gen' exclusive that I have played is Second Son and I am to be honest indifferent towards the racing genre, so I am just going to what many seem to say, the reviewers I mean.

Oh I see, Bloodborne is coming up and you really need to pick that up if you are into Souls game. And the problem about DC reviews is that reviewers is are just like us. They play and write their impressions about it and there will always be biases. I always taken reivews with a grain of salt because i know that only myself know if the game is good or bad if I play it myself. So to judge a game on its reviews isnt a good idea.

Anyway, I quess the whole PS4 has no games has changed to PS4 has no noticeable games. lol
 

Alo0oy

Banned
I agree with him. The PS4 library is abysmal and embarrassing next to the WiiU is even Xbox One first party titles. Most of Sony's have been a huge let down.

Sony published 27 games in 2014, MS & Nintendo combined published 28 games.

Whether you like those gamed or not is not relevant since everyone has a different taste, but based on sales, the majority don't share your opinion.
 

Savantcore

Unconfirmed Member
Do people think Bloodborne will seriously impact PS4 sales? Honest question. How well did Demon's/Dark Souls sell?

It just seems like an incredibly niche title that won't sell gangbusters outside of GAF.
 

Darklord

Banned
No it isn't. And yet another person who pretends that third party and multi platform games do not exist. Conveniently.

Umm I specifically said first party? I own a PS4 and it was my first next-gen console. I own all 3 and a gaming PC. I'm talking about Sony, the company, seriously dropping the ball on releasing quality titles on their platform. Even the games they've put out are shallow, forgettable games that look pretty. Nothing of substance.
 
Sony published 27 games in 2014, MS & Nintendo combined published 28 games.

Whether you like those gamed or not is not relevant since everyone has a different taste, but based on sales, the majority don't share your opinion.
At the risk of starting another listwar, I have to ask. What are the 27 games? What's the comparison in review scores? The person you were responding to was claiming that Sony published games have been a disappointment. And some certainly have been mediocre. So how do the numbers stack up? How do Sony published games do review-wise?

Edit: Just above me now he's claiming they're shallow, forgettable and nothing of substance.
 

Melchiah

Member
Weather system was added in, which personally felt like it made quite a difference. Biased since I'm part Japanese, but the Japanese tracks were also a huge add.

They were very good additions, but the core gameplay remains the same as it was on launch, and that's the reason for why it was criticized and seen as outdated. It plays pretty much as good, or bad depending on taste, as back then. The penalties were eased in a patch, but that's pretty much it when it comes to the gameplay.

The Japanese tracks are my favorites as well, along with Canadian and Indian.
 

Valentus

Member
Well, from the looks of it almost all the major PS4 games are cross-gen, while the ones exclusive to it are so far appear to be sub-par from what many say, like Knack, Driveclub, and the Order.

Driveclub subpar? What is this madness???? You may not like it or not like the genre, but Driveclub is actually on the elite of arcade racing games.

It will help a little bit.

It will help nothing. It's a very niche game, a damn fine game, but niche.

And seeing how is the ground now review-wise, sadly, i bet bloodborne will be reviewed poorly because "OMG INSANE FRAMEDROPZZZZZ"
 

badb0y

Member
Sony published 27 games in 2014, MS & Nintendo combined published 28 games.

Whether you like those gamed or not is not relevant since everyone has a different taste, but based on sales, the majority don't share your opinion.
Preach
 
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