What the fuck? Something must be wrong with these. There's faster and then then there's this.
Damn.
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Samsung Galaxy S6 & S6 Edge Event - March 1st.
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What the fuck? Something must be wrong with these. There's faster and then then there's this.
Damn.
I don't care about a graph when that means I can't have my music on my SD card. I have a ridiculous amount of music because of Google play music that I'm not just going to part with or "buy the more expensive phone".
Then don't buy it, plenty of phones on the market with SD card slots.
You should work for Samsung Marketing
Mr. Wonderful
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Oh yeah, definitely in that case.
Indeed, it will help with overall smoother stutter-free experience on Android. Improved sequential speeds help when moving large files around the system, and should also reduce time between photos being taken when the system needs to save the image.
The more important metric is random speeds, as this affect overall Android performance. It helps in instances where apps are updating in the background, and also for multitasking. Greater random speeds usually translate in fewer dropped frames.
As someone who is used to the iPhone model of a sealed battery and no SD card, the changes in the S6 don't bother me at all. Especially with the fast charge, wireless charging and 128gb model with super fast speeds. There are lots of phones on the market with those features if you want them. I'm happy Samsung went in this direction.
I'm also trying to get a job in Samsung's marketing department. I should link them to this thread.
Not too surprising. Samsung always get first dibs on the latest screen tech, storage tech, etc. since they engineer and produce most of it.
weekend_warrior
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As someone who just upgraded their computer with an SSD, memory is very worthy of getting excited about.
Bluekaveli
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Still going for Note 4. Samsung can suck me dry.
Crazymoogle
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Those memory speeds. Looking forward to the Anandtech coverage.
Forgot about this thread for awhile. Let's skip my assumption from before and do the math.
1. You save $10 on Rogers (Canada) network to roll your own device on the major plan they support for iPhone 6 upgrades. That's a savings of $240 total to roll your own.
There is no interest to pay on contract however. You save on the upfront charge and then your monthly payment is $10 higher.
2. Buying an iPhone 6-64GB on contract saves you $484 dollars versus buying one at the Apple Store. So buying on contract = you save $244 more than rolling your own. Half the number I suggested, but still a lot of money.
Forgot about this thread for awhile. Let's skip my assumption from before and do the math.
1. You save $10 on Rogers (Canada) network to roll your own device on the major plan they support for iPhone 6 upgrades. That's a savings of $240 total to roll your own.
There is no interest to pay on contract however. You save on the upfront charge and then your monthly payment is $10 higher.
2. Buying an iPhone 6-64GB on contract saves you $484 dollars versus buying one at the Apple Store. So buying on contract = you save $244 more than rolling your own. Half the number I suggested, but still a lot of money.
surprised at how similar the fingerprint registration process looks compare to iOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqvIROJH87k
stock keyboard also looks a bit too similar to iOS's
Why always pick fights with apple if you are just gonna borrow heavily from them, uncle sammy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqvIROJH87k
stock keyboard also looks a bit too similar to iOS's
Why always pick fights with apple if you are just gonna borrow heavily from them, uncle sammy?
Seek times may not have seen a drastic improvement but if those read/write benchmarks are any indication, the performance jump is akin to comparing rotating drives to ssds.True, but it's not like phones had spinning hard drives prior to this
True, but it's not like phones had spinning hard drives prior to this
No, spinning drives actually beat them...
*bottom two* The slowest equals the S6.
It probably looks much better with random IO, but all flash memory is not made equal and it takes a good controller to keep performance high. So far no phones have really stood out in this area so it's nice to see Samsung change it up and their SSDs (apart from the TLC issue) have been really good.
Bought a Note 4 early January and I already feel the same way with the Edge. Specs-wise, it's goddamn amazing... at least the specs that matter to me most (display color accuracy, camera performance, memory improvements). Phone looks fuckin sexy too. I hope the next Note Edge gets the same treatment (dual curved edge screen)....man it's gonna be such a long wait.
surprised at how similar the fingerprint registration process looks compare to iOS.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqvIROJH87k
stock keyboard also looks a bit too similar to iOS's
Why always pick fights with apple if you are just gonna borrow heavily from them, uncle sammy?
Well Apple has done the same so it doesn't matter.
jamesinclair
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Buyer beware:
FCC filings are in and apparently antenna quality is a significant downgrade from the S5, probably due to the metal outside.
FCC filings are in and apparently antenna quality is a significant downgrade from the S5, probably due to the metal outside.
FalsettoVibe
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Well that doesn't sound good.
SolidusDave
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So much downgrade, higher price and feature removal. All for pleasing a certain vocal group of people that always shouts for "premium" build materials/feel. (even though existing phones with that design aren't even more durable so the only benefit is the look. I bet the same group of people put their phone in some weird casings anyway)
(I wish they had that finger print solution on the S5 though, THAT is how it should work)
(I wish they had that finger print solution on the S5 though, THAT is how it should work)
No it does matter, it looks way too blatant lol.
Still probably gonna be the phone i get this year though.
Jazzy Network
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Better and more efficient SoC
Insane NAND storage speed
Great build and design
Better fingerprint sensor
Better camera
De-bloated TW
Better speakers (most likely due to bottom facing)
More RAM
Better screen
Downgrade? The only real downgrade is the battery size. We don't know how the actual battery life will be yet. I'll take the insane speed of the internal storage than stick to old tech like the SD card.
HammerOfThor
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That really sucks. Because at the end of the day this is a phone so this should be the one thing it does flawlessly.
Your Entertainer
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What? It's a ridiculous upgrade. In fact, people like you are the vocal minority complaining about microSD and removable battery (assuming that's what you're talking about). Pretty much every major review outlet universally called for better build/design from Samsung, and has been since the S4 at least. Samsung was so confident in the fact that those are minority concerns, they removed them in their flagship.
agreed, i hope this one flops so they go back to the plastic design with a micro sd card.
id say zero chance of that .. this should put samsung back on top with ease
SSGMUN10000
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Those complaining about the lack of an sd slot and removable battery are in the minority. Personally let go of that when i went to the nexus line with the nexus 4. I havent been hyped up for a samsung phone till now. Cant decide if I should get the edge or the standard. Does anyone have an idea when preorders start for T-mobile?
jamesinclair
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Care to back that up with facts?
Or is your ass supposed to be a valid data source?
FACT: A MAJORITY of people in this thread have spoken out against these changes
FACT: This Android website poll shows that it's a problem for 67% of respondents
FACT: When I worked at Verizon and people asked for android phone recommendations, 90% of the time, lack of SD slot was a dealbreaker
FACT: HTC and Samsung used to be equal in sales. HTC went "premium" and removed those features, and their sales collapsed
Do you care to offer your own facts?
Heres the thing about review sites: Theyre not users. They have the phone for a month and then move on to the next big thing for free.
Real world users, people who have a phone for 2 years, know that batteries go to shit and need to be replaced. Real world users, people who have a phone for 2 years, know that their internal memory gets full after 7,000 photos, endless apps, and music. Real world users buy $3 cases and don't give half a shit about what the back of the phone is made of.
Find me a single person who has owned a Galaxy phone for 2 years and has NOT had a problem with a severely deteriorated battery after 15 months.
imo 32 is enough.
all my pics tend to be uploaded to G+
and the only other thing i keep on my device are movies, and i transfer those off after a couple weeks via USB OTG thumbdrive.
my S4 is two years old, i have about 10GB worth of app data on the thing , leaving about 600MB free for apps ... and a 16GB SDcard which i used for cam storage and movies
sure expandable Sd card would be preferable, but it's not a deal breaker for me .. phone is not my primary storage device, if it was it'd be full in a matter of weeks even if it was a 128GB Sdcard
all my pics tend to be uploaded to G+
and the only other thing i keep on my device are movies, and i transfer those off after a couple weeks via USB OTG thumbdrive.
my S4 is two years old, i have about 10GB worth of app data on the thing , leaving about 600MB free for apps ... and a 16GB SDcard which i used for cam storage and movies
sure expandable Sd card would be preferable, but it's not a deal breaker for me .. phone is not my primary storage device, if it was it'd be full in a matter of weeks even if it was a 128GB Sdcard
Your Entertainer
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FACT: Samsung themselves chose to remove the SD slot due to their own internal data (which they gathered from monitoring software on every single device they sold). Sauce: they said as much during their press conference. Your sauce: lol me and my franz!! and the interwebs!
FACT: Lol @ thinking "a majority of users" in this thread or an enthusiast website poll is in any way a reasonable estimate of the opinion of or a reasonable cross-section of the purchasing public. Top lel for assuming that your experience or those of the people you know irl or on teh interwebz can be reasonably extrapolated to the general public. An additional top lel @ you for your storage statement. Is it not reasonable to expect a migration of 7000 photos to a PC after a year or two (where it can then be stored on your beloved SD card)?
FACT: Lol @ the HTC statement in general, really. Lol that you thinking "premium" lead to their downfall, that the times of them using "premium" materials correlated at all with their drop in sales, or that there's actually any real causative relationship there.
Just a terrible post all around.
PS: Li-ion batteries degrade dude, everybody knows that. But modern Li ions have a negligible degradation over two years (a reasonable estimate for a high-end smartphone purchaser keeping their phone given modern contract structures). But don't take my word for it. A spec sheet for this slightly older (2012) Panasonic Lithium Ion battery shows that their 1880mAh battery degrades to.... ~1660mAh over 500 charge cycles. That's a loss of 11.7% over nearly two years of usage for that older model. But if you're really that worried about it, you can get non-removable batteries replaced through many different means. You can diy, google random services that do it for you, take it to specialized store (iphone), hell, even some Sprint stores will just give you a new one.
Jazzy Network
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Ugh that post makes my head hurt.
He's not wrong about the antenna worries. That's a legitimate concern.
Sorry to disappoint you (and anyone else with similar hopes), but
Samsung receives record pre-orders for S6, Edge
Bluekaveli
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It's a new week let me get my fuck on.
Fuck Sammy for making this phone without an sd card slot.
Fuck Sammy for making this phone without an sd card slot.
jamesinclair
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Seriously.
Sauce
franz
interwebs
top lel @ you
My head hurts from this idiocy
Sales to carriers =/ sales to consumers
SolidusDave
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Look, it's of course my subjective view.
But things that are incrementally upgraded anyway in every flag ship phone are not things that direct my purchase decisions.
All this increase in processing power, RAM etc. among the flag ship phones is barely noticeable as an end user when compared to each other. Maybe if you play games on it which I don't.
Hell, even compared to the respective previous models you will not find much difference in daily use.
The most noticeable thing is probably the yearly improvements in camera tech&screen (under certain conditions like low lighting), but still that's just par for the course. It's not like the pics of the previous models are suddenly all utter crap compared to the newer one, so I don't see it really as a big selling point.
However, when you remove features that differentiate your product from other products AND you don't even offer a different price, then why should I care?
I went specifically with the S5 because it was the only phone that is water-resistant, can be unlocked via fingerprint sensor and allows to upgrade the storage with existing sd-cards for free basically (which are anyway mostly to store tons of files like music, pics etc. for which you won't notice the difference in speed).
Now the S6
- not water-resistant or dust-proof
- no sd-card storage, if you need more internal space you pay 100$ for some dozens gb more.
- smaller battery and no option to change it
and now these rumors that antenna performance is also weaker.
All that to get a shinier case that offers not even more physical protection that the plastic before. THAT is what pisses me off and I really hope until the S7 they will improve on that (e.g. a compromise by having most features above with an improved metal casing) or that another company steps in.
From my point of view, only the new fingerprint sensor (and probably some new camera features) is an actual improvement because this makes it possible to unlock your phone with one hand and quicker. And this I stated as such.
Maybe that new paying method as well but I guess that could be added to S5 as well as there might be no new hardware involved.
Else I can pretty much do everything the S6 does on my S5 (sorry, I don't really want to use such an argument but when simplified it's true) but there are things that the S5 can that the S6 can't do at all. This weighs in more that the usual incremental improvements.
I would make the same comment if they decide to release a S7 that has a better CPU, screen, RAM etc. but no more NFC capability
(won't happen because luckily the iPhone has it now as well ;D )
Personal anecdotes != reality of the market
jamesinclair
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Its not a rumor, it's straight from the documents they are required to provide to the FCC to be certified.
Wow this is huge. Did they forget it's purpose?
The Faceless Master
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YASSS!!!
weekend_warrior
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Can you post your source? I can't find anything posted about antenna problems.
Your Entertainer
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Lol. Nice rebuttal brah
FCC. Compare the "LTE test reports" between handsets to the corresponding operating bands (i.e. Compare Band 26 to Band 26). Readings are on the first pages.
Example.
Galaxy S5: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=231917&fcc_id=A3LSMG900P
Galaxy S6: https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=395433&fcc_id=A3LSMG920P
You can see the S5 gets better readings than the S6.
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Best samsung phone ever.
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