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[DrROBschiz]

Its funny that people cant wrap their head around the HOW and WHY other markets exist

Or why PS4 is and the Sony ecosystem is appealing to people

IDGI

 

[Amentallica]

Its funny that people cant wrap their head around the HOW and WHY other markets exist

Or why PS4 is and the Sony ecosystem is appealing to people

IDGI

They can but they refuse to. They're too close minded.

 

[ced]

Hey what's going on in here?

 

[joecanada]

Hey what's going on in here?

mass hysteria, burning of flags, the skies are dark, rivers running with blood, you know, a sales thread on gaf.

 

[boinx]

Is it me or is the PC vs. console rhetoric even more prevalent this gen? I swear I never heard much of a peep of it last gen, but this one, it seems like a lot of PC fans are just waiting in the wings to crap on any positive console news.

Kids who used to be console warriors jumped on to PC at the end of last gen think they are hot shit and gotta justify and shit on everything else for some reason. Of course that's just generalization but that's the vibe I've gotten from most of these guys anyway.

 

[shadowfall]

The order will sell more than a million copies. And Sony will bundle that game later selling more PS4's. I cannot wait to see the meltdown then.

 

[The Artisan]

The order will sell more than a million copies. And Sony will bundle that game later selling more PS4's. I cannot wait to see the meltdown then.

sony was embarrassed about driveclub. i don't think they'll say the same thing twice but I can't see them bundling the Ps4 with that game.

 

[omonimo]

sony was embarrassed about driveclub. i don't think they'll say the same thing twice but I can't see them bundling the Ps4 with that game.

Embarrassed? It's not surely a Sony fault if it didn't sold well, if it's that you meant.

 

[The Artisan]

Embarrassed? It's not surely a Sony fault if it didn't sold well, if it's that you meant.

they were embarrassed with the driveclub launch.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12...ief-talks-driveclub-delays-and-disappointment

 

[shadowfall]

sony was embarrassed about driveclub. i don't think they'll say the same thing twice but I can't see them bundling the Ps4 with that game.

If I remember right they bundled Knack with PS4 in Japan. I am on the few who loved Knack but a lot of people feel otherwise. If they can do for Knack, they might do it for Order. And personally I loved the Order as well. Quite a few people still do. One of the best looking games on console. Best way for new PS4 owners to show how shiny their new hardware is

 

[The Artisan]

And personally I loved the Order as well. Quite a few people still do.

the game's been out for less than a month, not a whole lot of time for people to have settled, over-time opinions of the game.

 

[Fury451]

The order will sell more than a million copies. And Sony will bundle that game later selling more PS4's. I cannot wait to see the meltdown then.

After this? By sheer probability, that seems likely. I'll be happy with that, because that means sequel! Hopefully a better realized one!

I don't get the bitterness here. Good on Sony for this, the PS4 is a fantastic system, and they played their cards perfectly.

they were embarrassed with the driveclub launch.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/12...ief-talks-driveclub-delays-and-disappointment

Embarrassed by the launch doesn't mean they want to disassociate themselves from the game though. They're not embarrassed by Driveclub itself for existing.

And they should be embarrassed, the launch hid what was underneath a fantastic game. They just didn't execute that well at all.

 

[cooperma]

the 30 million milestone probably won't happen till the end of the year. 25 million on the other hand... a lot of us have speculated that's a possibility by e3.


The ps4 sold 18 million last year right? Wouldn't selling 12 be a pretty big failure? I would thing that they would be at least at 38-40million by 1/1/16.

Just my .02.

 

[alterno69]

If I remember right they bundled Knack with PS4 in Japan. I am on the few who loved Knack but a lot of people feel otherwise. If they can do for Knack, they might do it for Order. And personally I loved the Order as well. Quite a few people still do. One of the best looking games on console. Best way for new PS4 owners to show how shiny their new hardware is

Hear hear, loved The Order and really enjoyed Knack as well, but deserve at least a 7 in mu book.

 

[The Artisan]

the 30 million milestone probably won't happen till the end of the year. 25 million on the other hand... a lot of us have speculated that's a possibility by e3.


The ps4 sold 18 million last year right? Wouldn't selling 12 be a pretty big failure? I would thing that they would be at least at 38-40million by 1/1/16.

Just my .02.

I mean hey, if they end up selling even more, more power to them. I'm thrilled that the Ps4 has been selling so well. And I truly hope it holds a chance of matching or coming close to getting to Ps2's ltd, as unlikely as that may be.

 

[Intrigue]

the 30 million milestone probably won't happen till the end of the year. 25 million on the other hand... a lot of us have speculated that's a possibility by e3.


The ps4 sold 18 million last year right? Wouldn't selling 12 be a pretty big failure? I would thing that they would be at least at 38-40million by 1/1/16.

Just my .02.

18.5 mil included the launch months Nov/Dec of 2013.

 

[cooperma]

I mean hey, if they end up selling even more, more power to them. I'm thrilled that the Ps4 has been selling so well. And I truly hope it holds a chance of matching or coming close to getting to Ps2's ltd, as unlikely as that may be.

I agree. Ps2 was a perfect storm of great price, new technology (DVDs) , and no real competitors ( sorry dream cast &#128546. Never will be repeated...

 

[The Artisan]

Embarrassed by the launch doesn't mean they want to disassociate themselves from the game though. They're not embarrassed by Driveclub itself for existing.

And they should be embarrassed, the launch hid what was underneath a fantastic game. They just didn't execute that well at all.

regardless of their reason for embarrassment, there were things that caused less than ideal review scores for dc, and the same thing happened to the order. what i meant was i don't think they'll apologize twice for whatever reason they think they should, but i also don't see them bundling that game.

dc got bundles, but I think that was before the game was reviewed.

18.5 mil included the launch months Nov/Dec of 2013.

ah yeah, that is an important fact. didn't really hit me when I read that.

 

[The Artisan]

I agree. Ps2 was a perfect storm of great price, new technology (DVDs) , and no real competitors ( sorry dream cast &#128546. Never will be repeated...

how did you get that emoticon there?

 

[cooperma]

18.5 mil included the launch months Nov/Dec of 2013.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[ViciousDS]

damn........I wonder if the launch of bloodbourne and the witcher 3 (even if its multiplat theres still a bunch of friends I know that bought a PS4 for this game as well.) could really push this to 25 million by the time E3 hits.

 

[cooperma]

how did you get that emoticon there?

I dunno just grabbed from my iPhone keyboard.

Btw - imo I think that Microsoft will pull plug on this generation early and Sony will have no choice but to follow with a ps5 so they don't go into a year sized hole that they did with ps3. I doubt they would want to give ms any momentum even with gen9. This will further decrease sony's chance at surpassing the King (ps2)

 

[thelastword]

Nah i think the thread about god of war 3 being bugged, because the guy didn't stop punching Zeus surpasses it, or the one where Khalifa's wife started to post on the Neo.

There's no way, I mean how? Didn't he see the qte?

Wow, this thread was ridiculous, it's been a while since I read such a long thread, how can anyone be mad that gaming is alive and well.

 

[XxRampage07xX]

i wonder if project morphus will affect sales in any significant way.

kinect for 360 was a success but it didn't really accelerate console sales, did it?

I just hope they won't drop supports for Morpheus and leave it dead like they did with Move. But hey, VR is going to be a big thing on the market soon. I bet Sony will never decide to sit still and watch all the competitors grabbing the whole VR market share. It (VR market) is a huge potential and Sony won't likely abandon it.

 

[anexanhume]

damn........I wonder if the launch of bloodbourne and the witcher 3 (even if its multiplat theres still a bunch of friends I know that bought a PS4 for this game as well.) could really push this to 25 million by the time E3 hits.

Absolutely. They're doing almost 1M a month WW in the slowest months without BB, Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, Battlefield, FF etc.

 

[The Artisan]

damn........I wonder if the launch of bloodbourne and the witcher 3 (even if its multiplat theres still a bunch of friends I know that bought a PS4 for this game as well.) could really push this to 25 million by the time E3 hits.

I dunno just grabbed from my iPhone keyboard.

Btw - imo I think that Microsoft will pull plug on this generation early and Sony will have no choice but to follow with a ps5 so they don't go into a year sized hole that they did with ps3. I doubt they would want to give ms any momentum even with gen9. This will further decrease sony's chance at surpassing the King (ps2)

that would be a big fat middle finger in the face of all those people who bought an xbone and are planning on it still for the likes of halo 5 and GoW4

mS was a new contender with the xbox1. the xbox brand has grown much larger, too large imo for them to pull the same shit and abandon ship again just because their sales isn't keeping up with the competition.

and i think were was more to mS ditching the xbox1 early other than just low install base.

I just hope they won't drop supports for Morpheus and leave it dead like they did with Move. But hey, VR is going to be a big thing on the market soon. I bet Sony will never decide to sit still and watch all the competitors grabbing the whole VR market share. It (VR market) is a huge potential and Sony won't likely to abandon it.

they dropped move support because no one cared about it. they need to make sure and make confident in people for morpheus to be a hit.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

damn........I wonder if the launch of bloodbourne and the witcher 3 (even if its multiplat theres still a bunch of friends I know that bought a PS4 for this game as well.) could really push this to 25 million by the time E3 hits.

There is a bunch of games coming that can do that in April we have MK X,Project Cars and MLB15, May looks very barren outside Witcher 3 and FFX/FFX-2HD and right before E3 we have Batman Arkham Knight. Note im only counting retail releases because there are a bunch of really good indie titles as well.

 

[A_Gorilla]

Jesus Christ, this is why sometimes I hate living on the West Coast. I miss all the action!

 

[DJwest]

Why the title change ? What's going on here ?

 

[The Artisan]

Absolutely. They're doing almost 1M a month WW in the slowest months without BB, Arkham Knight, Witcher 3, Battlefield, etc.

1 million a month?!

Jesus Christ, this is why sometimes I hate living on the West Coast. I miss all the action!

what difference does being on the west coast make?

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

damn........I wonder if the launch of bloodbourne and the witcher 3 (even if its multiplat theres still a bunch of friends I know that bought a PS4 for this game as well.) could really push this to 25 million by the time E3 hits.

Batman should help tremendously as well.

 

[The Artisan]

Why the title change ? What's going on here ?

look at this

I love how people buy a console for just one game and refuse to build a pc for hundreds of fantastic exclusives where everyone finds something for their taste.
Bloodborne looks like one of the first really good outstanding games for the PS4 and the only valid purchase reason for a PS4 but it's just one game...
All other exclusive are A. multiform games (no question, even cheap pc's do a better job than any console) B. time exclusive (a bit later in a better and cheaper and often more version on pc) or C. just "ok" games for an unreasonable price.

Stop being fanboys and open your eyes, being loyal to a brand without comparing with other products is just stupid.
If there is something way better, offers overall a better way to play everything than play there and currently it's almost always the pc version (sometimes, like in SF IV, they fuck up something like online and won't fix it, it's still playable but there way less players too choose from than on 360).
I know a few crazy JRPG fans (mainly Souls and Persona) than I get it why they bought a console but they did that because they did not have a other choice, everything else they play on their pc.
Console is like fast food, cheaply made and doesn't need much effort and can get you fed up but taking some time preparing your own meal is just generally better.
Nobody bats an eye if you play on consoles but if you talk literally trash without any facts or evidence it helps no one.

 

[DieH@rd]

what difference does being on the west coast make?

He wakes up to late to see the meltdowns?

 

[A_Gorilla]

He wakes up to late to see the meltdowns?

Exactly that.

 

[BlackBuzzard]

Why the title change ? What's going on here ?

I love how people buy a console for just one game and refuse to build a pc for hundreds of fantastic exclusives where everyone finds something for their taste.
Bloodborne looks like one of the first really good outstanding games for the PS4 and the only valid purchase reason for a PS4 but it's just one game...
All other exclusive are A. multiform games (no question, even cheap pc's do a better job than any console) B. time exclusive (a bit later in a better and cheaper and often more version on pc) or C. just "ok" games for an unreasonable price.

Stop being fanboys and open your eyes, being loyal to a brand without comparing with other products is just stupid.
If there is something way better, offers overall a better way to play everything than play there and currently it's almost always the pc version (sometimes, like in SF IV, they fuck up something like online and won't fix it, it's still playable but there way less players too choose from than on 360).
I know a few crazy JRPG fans (mainly Souls and Persona) than I get it why they bought a console but they did that because they did not have a other choice, everything else they play on their pc.
Console is like fast food, cheaply made and doesn't need much effort and can get you fed up but taking some time preparing your own meal is just generally better.
Nobody bats an eye if you play on consoles but if you talk literally trash without any facts or evidence it helps no one.

Funny how many of you guys love to share your memes.
Tried somebody to show me some good reasons why to prefer console?
Keep being awesome guys, and don't forget to save money for more remasters and 70$ games which are as about interactive and fun as a dvd menu.
And instead lowering settings to medium on a very cheap pc to play it on 1080p/30fps why not go 900p/24fps on low settings without anastrophic filter/anti aliasing and expensive hardware you have to buy and os software which is useless besides a bit of gaming and streaming Netflix and Youtube.
And don't forget to Morpheus too, the true successor of Kinect for Playstation.
Can't wait for it, VR is truly going to be great on PS!

To everyone who doupt you can build a pc which is better than a console for a similar, here is proof.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZR-a35sxLg
Don't forget that you could get a better component's if you compare prices and get better hardware.
Also you get with every dollar you are willing to spend more out of it, spending 50$ for the pc more will get you way better hardware.

Inbound people who are still crying because buying hardware and building a pc is hard.

That is what happened.

 

[cooperma]

that would be a big fat middle finger in the face of all those people who bought an xbone and are planning on it still for the likes of halo 5 and GoW4

mS was a new contender with the xbox1. the xbox brand has grown much larger, too large imo for them to pull the same shit and abandon ship again just because their sales isn't keeping up with the competition.

and i think were was more to mS ditching the xbox1 early other than just low install base.
they dropped move support because no one cared about it. they need to make sure and make confident in people for morpheus to be a hit.

I still think they would stick to their 10 year plan same as Sony does. But I think they would consider after 4 or 5 years at releasing a new Xbox built on a similar architecture. I would hope not... But it wouldn't suprose me.

 

[ViciousDS]

Batman should help tremendously as well.

ah yes, forgot about batman, mlb, two final fantasy games and the insane demo.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Wait, why are people salty in this thread? 20.2 million sounds like good news for console fans (Xbox and PS4). Shows that the space is still healthy.

 

[DNAbro]

Why the title change ? What's going on here ?

some people can't handle their not preferred device to do well when their device is soooooo much better.

 

[anexanhume]

1 million a month?!

Yes, that's worldwide in case WW wasn't clear. It needs to bump up to about 1.37M/month WW to hit 25M by E3, but that's not impossible given the games coming out and it building steam in Japan.

January 4th. So 1.8 mio in two months.

 

[cooperma]

Wait, why are people salty in this thread? 20.2 million sounds like good news for console fans.

Because some people like pc and Xbox more? I dunno. It is good for the industry no doubt

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Wait, why are people salty in this thread? 20.2 million sounds like good news for console fans.

Kind of answered your own question there

 

[FluxWaveZ]

Wait, why are people salty in this thread? 20.2 million sounds like good news for console fans (Xbox and PS4). Shows that the space is still healthy.

Why just "console fans"? Can't we just be happy, as people who like video games?

 

[Rymuth]

There is a bunch of games coming that can do that in April we have MK X,Project Cars and MLB15, May looks very barren outside Witcher 3 and FFX/FFX-2HD and right before E3 we have Batman Arkham Knight. Note im only counting retail releases because there are a bunch of really good indie titles as well.

Wolfenstein: the Old Blood is also slated for May. Thats something else to look forward to.

 

[Opiate]

Wait, why are people salty in this thread? 20.2 million sounds like good news for console fans (Xbox and PS4). Shows that the space is still healthy.

It's good news for the Playstation, no question. If you care more about your specific console winning than you do about the console market health in general, then it's bad news. If you are a PC gamer who wishes consoles would just go away, then this is bad news.

Please note I am not suggesting either of those positions are healthy or generous. I'm just saying they exist.

 

[Veritigo_X]

Why just "console fans"? Can't we just be happy, as people who like video games?

Kind of answered your own question there

Yeah, I should've worded it as "video game fans". Don't see why PC owners should be salty anyway (saying this as a PC owner) unless they are being salty about not getting Bloodborne haha. Sounds like this is just console warz though. Sucks that PC fans are getting sucked into it. They usually rise above it since their platform is "better".

 

[impact]

Yeah, I should've worded it as "video game fans". Don't see why PC owners should be salty anyway (saying this as a PC owner) unless they are being salty about not getting Bloodborne haha. Sounds like this is just console warz though. Sucks that PC fans are getting sucked into it. They usually rise above it since their platform is "better".

They usually don't and you know this.

Pathetic fanboys will always be pathetic fanboys, whether they've got a picture of Reggie, Kaz or Gabe above their fleshlight.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

That blue screen of death is the finishing touch

Wow, I knew something was off but I shat a brick when I noticed the change.

Man and is not only gaf with meltdowns on both sides

What a good week

 

[Dennis]

What is going on in here?

 

[Snuggles]

It's good news for the Playstation, no question. If you care more about your specific console winning than you do about the console market health in general, then it's bad news. If you are a PC gamer who wishes consoles would just go away, then this is bad news.

Please note I am not suggesting either of those positions are healthy or generous. I'm just saying they exist.

As someone who prioritizes the quality of the console experience and it's library over the success of it's brand, part of me does worry that this will lead to Sony resting on their laurels a bit and not focusing on exclusive games as much as I'd like. Why take risks when you're already on top? The PS3 had an awesome resurgence when Sony got desperate and had to save the console a few years into it's life. But I suppose this is still better than the console treading water and losing support...