AstroNut325
Member
Wait... WTF... there is actually a REAL petition to have Bloodborne ported to PC?
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Are these people trolling?
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Are these people trolling?
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No, which makes it all the more entertaining.
BotoxAgent
Member
when they aint trolling, they'd be port beggin'
It's not like port begging isn't a constant here
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Well,
The best looking game is on PS4
and the best exclusive games this gen have been on Wii U, X1.
And the best series of last gen is getting a new entry that looks as awesome as an elephant with a shark on its back stampeding and eating everything in their path and it isn't coming to PC.
So.....Yeah I don't know why they are upset either.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
No, that's not what I'm saying. There's no point in repeating myself so just read it again.
TheSlySoul
Member
There were petitions for Sunset Overdrive to get ported to PC as well.
Just have to laugh at it a bit.
Anyways, congrats to PS4 for being able to sell without a killer game yet. Just proves not screwing up = sales.
It's really the only way for PC Gamers to have their voices be heard. There is no multi billion dollar company looking after the PC ecosystem the way there is for Playstation or Xbox, trying hard to get every possible game on the platform they can. There are no negotiators. There is no one moneyhatting games to get them on the PC platform (exclusively or otherwise).
Obviously in this case it isn't happening, since Sony is publishing the game. I certainly haven't signed it, even though I mostly game on PC. But a lot of the PC petitions you see are because of this: who is going to help the platform get games if not gamers? Microsoft certainly hasn't operated as a PC gaming advocate.
Pathfinder
Member
I've read what you said multiple times. That is the impression you gave off with what you said. Perhaps you should have worded it differently if that's not what you were trying to say.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
If you want to play console exclusive games then buy a console. Fucking entitled brats.
TheSlySoul
Member
I would have said the same thing if it was not for GDC now.
They seem to be pushing for Windows 10/Xbox harmony.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Eh? Have you seen the PS4's line up of 1st and 3rd Party exclusives this year? It's pretty savage. Tonnes of content coming. I wouldn't worry. They were in an even better position when the PS2 was curb stomping all its competition and probably had even more quality 1st party exclusives coming out then.
Yes, it may change in the future. It's why I put "hasn't been an advocate" instead of "isn't an advocate."
Although I'll count those chickens when they hatch -- Microsoft is big on PC Gaming promises.
joecanada
Member
What's your point? People are salty because games like cod, madden sell well on ps4? Everyone already knows this and 99 percent knew this while buying the console. Don't see how this makes someone salty. Sony will put out games, and plenty of them but not every week. so you can play these on another platform go for it, don't see how this leads to salt
Half of them would probably pirate the damn thing if it came to PC anyway.
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
I've mentioned this before, but maybe if there was less gloating...
So your blaming it on PS4 fans in this thread then?
Pathfinder
Member
Not as a collective, no. Most people here have been remarkably civil, which is always nice to see.
SodiumBenzoate
Member
this is an epic thread.
If I had to buy a $400 console just to play Bloodborne, I would be pissed too; hard to really blame the salty PC players. Luckily I already have said console.
However- that's exactly the business model behind platform exclusives, and why Sony is publishing/paying for the game. They're going to sell a lot of consoles to Souls players. (assuming the game isn't trash which it won't be)
If I had to buy a $400 console just to play Bloodborne, I would be pissed too; hard to really blame the salty PC players. Luckily I already have said console.
However- that's exactly the business model behind platform exclusives, and why Sony is publishing/paying for the game. They're going to sell a lot of consoles to Souls players. (assuming the game isn't trash which it won't be)
PoweredByHentai
Member
Considering that Sony OWNS the Bloodborne IP, the folks who are clamoring for a PC port are pretty retarded.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=86262151&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
http://m.ign.com/articles/2014/04/30/sony-files-bloodborne-trademark
DrROBschiz
Member
Awwwww
So this is all about Bloodbourne....
Ok I totally get why they are so salty now
I do find it pretty funny that people were port begging for Bayonetta 2 on current gen consoles and it's such a foul offense, yet when PC gamers port beg suddenly it's ok.
The Artisan
Member
wasn't it reported that the Ps4 was profitable very early on? why would they be taking a loss if they slashed the price?
maybe it was priced accordingly but still. for the average consumer and the expected price of a playstation console, it was outrageous, considering the demographic/audience they were targeting.
i mean it's not literally a celebration for us because i don't think anyone here works for sony, but... what possible bad is there from high console sales?
it's cool that they were pushing blu ray with the Ps3, but if they knew that meant that price was gonna jack up enormously because of it, they should've tried cutting corners elsewhere i.e 2 usb ports instead of 4, and axe the card readers and BC (they ended up axing both later anyway). I think with that, they could've priced the console at 4 blocks just like they did the Ps4.
and the 7th gen would've turned out much better for them.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
Great thread guys 
Bloodborne is one of my most anticipated games in years. If I only had a PC or Xbone, I would consider buying a PS4 just to play it, I wouldn't whine too much.
Bloodborne is one of my most anticipated games in years. If I only had a PC or Xbone, I would consider buying a PS4 just to play it, I wouldn't whine too much.
OdysseusVA
Banned
Nice title change
DrROBschiz
Member
Great thread guys
Bloodborne is one of my most anticipated games in years. If I only had a PC or Xbone, I would consider buying a PS4 just to play it, I wouldn't whine too much.
I knew Bloodborne Hype was huge but hot damn!
You would think Dark Souls 1-2 and the Witcher 3 would be more than enough fo the PC guys
jhmtehgamr20xx
Banned
Isn't that subjective?
I'm actually going to sign just to leave a message deriding and criticizing their asses. Hold on...
Here's my post on their page
There are a number of important contextual differences here. First, Bayonetta 2 clearly would not have existed without Nintendo's intervention: it wasn't as if Sega was dying to publish it and Nintendo just paid more money. The game was dead. Nintendo revived it. All evidence we have points to this.
Second, Nintendo (and Sony and Microsoft) is a huge, multibillion dollar company which spends enormous quantities of time, energy, and money trying to get games on to their platforms. Unsurprisingly, Nintendo are strong advocates for proporietary Nintendo platforms, and will work hard to make sure that people who buy their systems get as many games as possible.
By contrast, there is no real question that From Software was hurting for a job. The games they make are increasingly popular, so it's not like Bloodbourne (or any game they make) was in a dire situation like Bayonetta 2 was.
And most importantly, there is no mommy Sony or papa Nintendo looking out for the PC platform. No one is moneyhatting games to get them on PC. No one is negotiating publishing contracts or offering discounts or anything like that. In other words, Xbox gamers don't have to advocate for games appearing on their platform, because one of the largest corporations in the world is already doing that job for them. PC Gamers don't have that luxury.
That doesn't mean that all PC port begging of any kind is allowed, mind you. Sometimes it's clearly in appropriate. I'd add that a Bloodbourne port is clearly never happening and anyone who thinks it will is delusional. I'm just explaining why context matters, and why some port begging is treated differently than other port begging. People like to understand our moderation policy, and how we decide the things we do.
You do know that Bloodborne is a funded and Sony IP owned product like Bayonetta 2 is to Nintendo right? Bloodborne would not exist otherwise, like Bayonetta 2 would not have existed without Nintendo.
I don't see how it is all that different. Neither games would exist without those funds. That's why I find the port begging from PC gamers to be pointless on a Sony owned IP.
Unless you think Bloodbourne was money hatted? 0_0
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Saw the thread title change, and am wondering why? It's a successful video game console, why are people mad in way, shape or form?
I just explained why it was different.
You will have a hard time convincing me that Bloodborne (or whatever other IP From wants to work on) could not find a home anywhere else. Bayonetta 2 literally couldn't. It had a publisher who dropped it because they were confident it would lose money (which it almost certainly did).
From Software is a hot commodity making increasingly popular games. Platinum is a group of chronic underachievers whose games are becoming increasingly financially infeasible in the current AAA landscape.
The goal here is not to say Sony is evil or anything; every company funds games. Nintendo has made contracts in the past, and so has Microsoft. I'm simply explaining to you why this situation is different. I listed another reason as well, which, as I stated, is notably more important.
So do you think Bloodbourne was money hatted? 0_0
Wickerbasket
Member
I like how in a thread about a console reaching a mile stone it's existence and people posting in it, is gloating.
Perhaps next you'll argue having nice stuff in your living room is asking to get robbed.
PoweredByHentai
Member
I see Bloodborne as having the same development structure as Demon's Souls, where Sony Japan Studio was co-developing the game.
Yoshida went to great lengths to reignite their partnership with From Software which resulted in Bloodborne. Hell, Sony Japan Studio's name is in all of the official Bloodborne trailers.
SDCowboy
Member
Ok and what do you think the sales ratio would be between PS4 and Xbone for Bloodborne? I would imagine pretty lopsided, if not extremely so. If a company offers to fund a game that is mostly going to sell on their console anyway, why wouldn't a dev take them up on that offer? Yeah, the total sales will be slightly less, but you have a company doing the funding for you which way more than makes up for it.
sooo glad i checked this thread out lmao
Right. From Software isn't in a position like Platinum is generally, or Bayonetta is particularly. It's not like From Software are likely beggers looking for someone, anyone to help them out.
As extreme contrasting examples, consider the situations of Ninja Theory and Bungie. At this point, Ninja Theory doesn't need to be "money hatted" in the traditional sense: if anyone is willing to give them work, they'll take it. They are not in a position to turn anyone down, and it's quite possible that if no one steps up, they'll never make a major AAA game again. By contrast, Bungie were likely in a position to pick whichever publisher they wanted. I suspect Ubisoft, EA, and Take 2 would have been happy to give them large sums of money to make a new franchise for them; it's likely Activision just offered the best contract.
While our current examples aren't quite as extreme as Ninja Theory / Bungie, it's still true that Platinum games (and particularly the Bayonetta franchise) are basically beggars looking for anyone to publish them, while From Software are a hot commodity who are very unlikely to be lacking for suitors. Sony probably offered the most. That's not meant as a slight.
And again, no one is addressing what I have emphatically noted is the more important point: that there is no major company looking out for the interests of PC gaming. It doesn't make all PC port begging okay, and it certainly doesn't mean that Bloodborne is coming to PC. I'm just explaining how we consider contextual differences as moderators.
Bloodborne is a Sony game, not a From Software game. Even if the idea of a petition for this game wasn't idiotic, the petition should be directed towards Sony, since it is their property and their choice what to do with. From has no say in the matter.
All of this context you bring up is totally pointless. It doesn't matter if one dev was hurting and the other wasn't. It doesn't matter if one dev was making bombs and the other making hits. Both games in question are the result of a mutual agreement between the developer and a console maker, with the rights to said games being handed over to the console makers as part of the agreement. That's literally the only context that matters.
As a result, neither Bayo 2 or Bloodborne will ever appear on another platform. Once you realize that, is there any rational reason to petition for a port? No, there isn't. I don't care if you ban ps/xbox port beggers but not PC beggars, because I honestly don't give a crap what goes on in this forum. But I will tell you that's not rational behavior. Just felt like pointing that out.
I never said they were mad because 3rd party games sell well on PS4. I said they were salty because the games you absolutely have to buy a PS4 to play aren't that good. For that matter they aren't that good on XB1 either. This will change with time of course (hopefully)
IndoAssassin
Banned
Whoa I wonder if someone is in the hospital because they gave themselves a heart attack due to severely high blood pressure from all that salt
Anyways I don't see anything wrong with getting a petition going for a PC version of Bloodborne. But it's just mind boggling people get so upset over sales. Only sales, people should get pissed over is people becoming millionaires from spreading fud and using pseudoscience to promote their bullshit products.
Anyways I don't see anything wrong with getting a petition going for a PC version of Bloodborne. But it's just mind boggling people get so upset over sales. Only sales, people should get pissed over is people becoming millionaires from spreading fud and using pseudoscience to promote their bullshit products.
PoweredByHentai
Member
Hahahahahaha! I'm pretty sure that Nintendo does not own the Bayonetta IP. IIRC, Sega owns Bayonetta.
http://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=77444642&caseType=SERIAL_NO&searchType=statusSearch
Didn't Sony also help on developing the engine for Bloodborne as well?
I mean, we all saw what happened when FS tried to make an engine on their own with Dark Souls 2.
Even if Bloodborne could still get made without Sony's funding, I doubt the game would look anything like it does right now.
I said Nintendo owns Bayonetta 2, not the whole IP. Although I could be wrong on that one too.
Wickerbasket
Member
It's pretty funny, because I don't remember anyone being pissed about Demon Souls.
Plus, it's not like Dark Souls 3 won't be made eventually anyways.
BrianRoyale
Member
So was Bloodborne in production before Sony came to them for an exclusive or did Sony come to From Software asking to develop a new IP for the Playstation which became Bloodborne?
Seems like depending on what happened would determine how people might feel about the game being on PS4 only.
Seems like depending on what happened would determine how people might feel about the game being on PS4 only.
allotheabove123
Banned
My thoughts exactly