PlayStation 4 hits 20.2 million units sold worldwide (high sodium content warning)

Single winner = Market collapse imminent?

There have been numerous instances of "single winners" in the video game market.



The NES completely dominated the 3rd gen console market. It didn't have a real competitor until the Sega Genesis in the following gen.

Did the console market collapse? No.




Nintendo completely dominated the handheld market in the 4th, 5th, and 6th gens with the Game Boy / Game Boy Color / Game Boy Advance.

The first real competitor to the Game Boy line was the Sony PSP.

Did the handheld market collapse? No.




The Sony PS2 completely dominated the 6th gen console market.

Did the console market collapse? No.




Based on history, it's clear that the PS4 dominating the others won't have any significant effect on the health of the market.
 
That dude got banned just because he said it was undesereved? Which it is, disgustingly so. That is weird.....

Sony's choices resulted in a console that is the default platform to play multiplat titles on and now they are reaping the rewards of that. In our Internet gaming bubble it is easy to lose touch with what the mass market values and fail to realize that things obsessed over here like certain exclusives might not carry much weight at all in the real world.

Their competitors on the other hand made poor choices and misjudged the market and are now also reaping what they sowed.
 
I'm quoting mainly youtube and ign commenters :D

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Single winner = Market collapse imminent?

Nope. PS2 era was complete domination and it was cool. May have made Sony misstep with the PS3 but they probably wouldn't fuck it up again. The only thing I feel multiple competitors are necessary for is pushing things forward.
 
I just heard about this game the other day. Is it really that good? I have it on my shopping cart.

Yes, Its just generally fun. It promotes Co-op play. And it works well regardless of the skill level of the other people you play with.

Most Co-op games you are either boxed out or steam rolled if you are low level. In Hell Divers leveling up matters, but you wont be shunned. Go check out the [OT]
 
Something about crossing 20m barrier really pushed ppl over the edge huh?
I don't recall the same amount of meltdowns over previous sales milestones




I wonder how far Sony will push MGS5 for September.

I am interested in seeing how they do it compare to Destiny.
Coinciding it with an official price drop?
Verendus seemed to have hinted at that
 
I know I wasn't the person you were talking to, but I'm not sure why the answer can't be both.

That is, FIFA can sell systems. So can Wii Fit. Call of Duty can sell systems. So can Nintendogs. GTA can sell systems. So can Puzzle and Dragons.

I'd be interested in a Puzzle and Dragons console JRPG or anime. The Rage of Bahamut anime was surprisingly good.
 
Honestly I am waiting for the NPD numbers for The Order because that could be hilarious. As for Bloodborn Review Thread.... yeah that could be interesting.

You'll have your usual one line drive-bys, people bitching about Yoshida with a dash of port begging probably.
 
This thread
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I look forward to seeing exactly how high and fast the numbers can go.

Remember, console gaming is dead.
 
This thread
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I look forward to seeing exactly how high and fast the numbers can go.

Remember, console gaming is dead.

I dunno, but maybe 300k+ in a week when bloodborne's released?
Maybe 250k for FF type 0?

Wouldn't be surprised if it hits over 1m in march alone.
400k NPD?
 
This thread man, it's has become more entertaining than the NPD threads.

1st, "it's not deserved"
2nd, "it has no games, what are people playing?"
3rd, "you can build a $300 PC"
4th, "there's no system sellers"

Anyone taking bets on what the next narrative is?

5th, "they're fudging the numbers"
 
It's a Venus Fly Trap. I've never seen it try to eat a frog before. Always thought that it wasn't possible for it to digest a frog.
Me too. I'm instantly reminded of that one Rifftrax short

Mike Nelson: The Lord truly works wonders through his incredibly efficient hand-tooled killing machines
 
If I were SONY I would push Batman Arkham Knight instead. Konami is a sinking ship. Pad Warner Bros.

uhh why not both? In fact that is almost guaranteed. They will promote the hell out of Batman may, june, july; move on to MGSV august, september, uncharted promotion october, november.
 
MGS5 would push ps4 without a single marketing dollar. It is heavily associated with playstation. I would do anything to lock down Batman.
Of course they will do both.
 
Your right up to the point bolded at the end, as your comments make it sound as though people are almost fooled into believing Ps4 is favoured for multi platform games.

The facts are it objectively is the most capable console in specs and indeed performance except for a couple of digital foundry outliers of poor coding devs..

That was the whole ethos behind the Ps4 design, its no accident and many people see this.

System sellers are the big sellers, the CODs, FIFA's, GTA 5's and if Ps4 generally runs the big games objectively 'better' and most people know that then its game over. One this is accepted and momentum starts...that's it.

And no we cannot look back at historical consoles and say the best hardware did not always win, its 2015 and with strong social media the market is more aware.

Be most assured that i didn't mean 'ensared' by tricking. I only own a PS4 as a next gen console, i love it lots. My point is that there are markets that will run with it and turn it into an unstoppable train, and so far, PS4 has become that the console to do that globally like its other predecessors(besides PS3 in America and UK)

Xbox became a poisoned brand for many after their DRM situation, i know it became the case for me.

I always tried to defend MS about locking apps behind paywalls, about not offering the games PS+ did, about not investing in exclusives and coasting off third parties for years in the second half of the 360's life. I was just really into Xbox. I was waiting with baited breath to get the next Xbox.

Although the PS3 gradually became a great console to me, i still wanted the next xbox like nobodies business before we heard anything about it. But it became clear to me with the fiasco's leading up to the One's launch that the bone was just not a proposition i wanted to invest in with MS's mindset, and i won't change on that.
 
uhh why not both? In fact that is almost guaranteed. They will promote the hell out of Batman may, june, july; move on to MGSV august, september, uncharted promotion october, november.

I don't see a Destiny level push for Batman Arkham Knight yet, despite having some meaty exclusive DLC for it.

Metal Gear Solid V gets PS what?
 
1. I think having the highest number of games between the 3 platform is pretty good. They also acknowledge feedback from the gamers and help release Suikoden 1 and 2, Yakuza 5, Grim Fandango etc..

3. I don't find any excuses for Sony, I find it funny that you're calling me a fanboy though. Here's the number of exclusive games Sony released for the Vita 24, across 3 years. That's more then the 20 games of Nintendo with their WiiU. So does Nintendo not support the WiiU?

4. Sony also does it albeit less regularly. Does Nintendo release update more regularly then Sony? If not does that also mean they don't support their customers?

5. This I can agree
I find it commendable how much you're willing to dispute the trolls.
The bans won't stop.
 
I can see how a potentially strong Nintendo fan could find this quite distressing news.

But them graveyard posts have amused me greatly for the last ten minutes. Thank you Gaf.
 
I can see how a potentially strong Nintendo fan could find this quite distressing news.

But them graveyard posts have amused me greatly for the last ten minutes. Thank you Gaf.

I don't understand why. Sony have come back since ~2009 almost on nothing but games. Not many gimmicks (not any that worked at least) just putting out some great 1st Party games and maintaining good relations with the 3rd Party publishers.

I mean, if X1 would be taking the world by storm with its Kinect driven, always online vision, yeah, that would be disturbing. But currently Sony is "winning" with the game library. If I were Nintendo, I'd be ecstatic.
 
This thread man, it's has become more entertaining than the NPD threads.

1st, "it's not deserved"
2nd, "it has no games, what are people playing?"
3rd, "you can build a $300 PC"
4th, "there's no system sellers"

Anyone taking bets on what the next narrative is?

5th, "they're fudging the numbers"

hey guyz

so sony lies about their sell-through numbers

it's a conspiracy okay

it's clear that sony lies about their sell-through data reports to make themselves seem much better than xbox which is actually doing better than sony

it's proven on sales tracking website vg chartz:

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http://gamrconnect.********.com/post.php?id=6598658

and we all know that ioi tracks video game sales and he is unbiased unlike sony who wants to destroy xbox by any means necessary

don't believe sony's lies sheeple
 
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