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Edge cover revealed: Bloodborne, the verdict (review available tomorrow)

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Tillbo said:
To be fair it is more of a 'review' than a than a preview and goes into quite a lot of detail over 5/6 pages.

Also apparently as the online integration isn't working yet they cannot do a proper 'review' yet anyway.

'If you've been watching this generation from the sidelines, unmoved by remasters and rush jobs while you wait for the first true essential to arrive, now's the time."

So I think they like it :)
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Sounds good! HYPE increasing!
 
Wow I remember the Project Beast hype thread here like it was yesterday and now it's almost upon us. Time to get my PS4 ordered methinks :P
 
Ishan said:
Can someone please explain to me . (And this is coming from a sony fan) Are we expecting most sites to review this very well without bringing up . Where is the next gen gameplay ?

Btw for the record I'm pretty sure this will review well (good track record previews etc) but I personally don't see what's being done in this game that couldn't be done on last gen . (Disregarding graphics because we always do that it seems)

So if this reviews super well without it's online introducing something super unique or without many reviewrs atleast bringing up next gen gameplay it would just illustrate a very silly expectation ppl have built up .
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There is no such thing as "next gen gameplay".

But you already know this right?
 
Ishan said:
Can someone please explain to me . (And this is coming from a sony fan) Are we expecting most sites to review this very well without bringing up . Where is the next gen gameplay ?

Btw for the record I'm pretty sure this will review well (good track record previews etc) but I personally don't see what's being done in this game that couldn't be done on last gen . (Disregarding graphics because we always do that it seems)

So if this reviews super well without it's online introducing something super unique or without many reviewrs atleast bringing up next gen gameplay it would just illustrate a very silly expectation ppl have built up .
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I despise the term "next gen gameplay" more than anything. What a dumb argument.
 
Tillbo said:
To be fair it is more of a 'review' than a than a preview and goes into quite a lot of detail over 5/6 pages.

Also apparently as the online integration isn't working yet they cannot do a proper 'review' yet anyway.

'If you've been watching this generation from the sidelines, unmoved by remasters and rush jobs while you wait for the first true essential to arrive, now's the time."

So I think they like it :)
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Eeeyyyy, this is what I like to hear.
 
Ishan said:
Can someone please explain to me . (And this is coming from a sony fan) Are we expecting most sites to review this very well without bringing up . Where is the next gen gameplay ?

Btw for the record I'm pretty sure this will review well (good track record previews etc) but I personally don't see what's being done in this game that couldn't be done on last gen . (Disregarding graphics because we always do that it seems)

So if this reviews super well without it's online introducing something super unique or without many reviewrs atleast bringing up next gen gameplay it would just illustrate a very silly expectation ppl have built up .
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What do you mean by next-gen gameplay?

I think Dark Souls has the best gameplay of any game I've ever played. Edge themselves did a really good analysis of how flexible the game is and how it can be played in a variety of different ways, each of them satisfying.

For me, good gameplay is way more important than some nebulous concept of "next gen gameplay". We may disagree!
 
raven777 said:
sounds positive. Any other interesting lines from the 'verdict'?
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Well, the only negative thing coming out of this pseudo review is they have a few worries about potential replayability as there is no class system and enemies no longer drop weapons/gear.

However, they do claim to be over 40 hours in and the end isn’t in sight and there is also a brand new mechanic that they are forbidden from discussing. Also, longevity will apparently come from procedurally generated Chalice Dungeons but these weren't working in their build yet.
 
thesuperfunk said:
Edge now costs £5.50 an issue!? ... Am I reading that right!?
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Grumble, it's gone up so much but compared to daily newspapers it's not too bad. I subscribe for £20 a quarter. Expecting a price hike to that soon :(
toythatkills said:
£fivefifty

Presumably the review is 10/10 or it wouldn't really warrant this kind of cover. I can't think of many Edge covers which have been dedicated to reviews rather than previews/features.
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Super Mario Galaxy was the last I remember.
 
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Tillbo said:
Well, the only negative thing coming out of this pseudo review is they have a few worries about potential replayability as there is no class system and enemies no longer drop weapons/gear.

However, they do claim to be over 40 hours in and the end isn’t in sight and there is also a brand new mechanic that they are forbidden from discussing. Also, longevity will apparently come from procedurally generated Chalice Dungeons but these weren't working in their build yet.
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omfg beast mode confirmed!!!!
hold me gaf!
 
Tillbo said:
Well, the only negative thing coming out of this pseudo review is they have a few worries about potential replayability as there is no class system and enemies no longer drop weapons/gear.
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I actually do like that, since it means less farming :)
 
GHG said:
There is no such thing as "next gen gameplay".

But you already know this right?
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Yup I do . I'm just saying as this is increasingly looking like the first next gen only game that will review welli hope all the reviewers who've been harping about "next gen gameplay" atleast point out that while this is a good game it's not doing anything super new/not possible last gen

. I mean there are true next gen moments (m64 gta3 etc) but those are far and few inbetween . Just saying the outlets/sites clamouring for a"true next gen" fix better justify why this is . Or at least acknowledge it's not but just a good game etc etc whichever way it turns out
 
Tillbo said:
Well, the only negative thing coming out of this pseudo review is they have a few worries about potential replayability as there is no class system and enemies no longer drop weapons/gear.

However, they do claim to be over 40 hours in and the end isn’t in sight and there is also a brand new mechanic that they are forbidden from discussing. Also, longevity will apparently come from procedurally generated Chalice Dungeons but these weren't working in their build yet.
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Thanks. Do they mention anything about weapons we haven't seen yet?
 
Ishan said:
Can someone please explain to me . (And this is coming from a sony fan) Are we expecting most sites to review this very well without bringing up . Where is the next gen gameplay ?

Btw for the record I'm pretty sure this will review well (good track record previews etc) but I personally don't see what's being done in this game that couldn't be done on last gen . (Disregarding graphics because we always do that it seems)

So if this reviews super well without it's online introducing something super unique or without many reviewrs atleast bringing up next gen gameplay it would just illustrate a very silly expectation ppl have built up .
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I would say that the inclusion of the procedurally generated dungeon could possibly be seen as a "next gen" feature. And perhaps how the coop works now with private rooms. It's easy to say that this could all be done on last gen, but I honestly don't know what you expect. I want more of the same, with smoother gameplay, better graphics, and larger worlds; this is what we're getting.

It's not as if they would revolutionize how you play games with Bloodborne. People want more Souls - not something drastically different. We're also at a point where hardware won't suddenly open up new ways to play based on power alone, outside of external things like VR. That's where the extra power of the new system can come into play.
 
Tillbo said:
Well, the only negative thing coming out of this pseudo review is they have a few worries about potential replayability as there is no class system and enemies no longer drop weapons/gear.
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I always prefered obtaining new items through exploration over hoping for random drops to occur so I am super fine with this. As for the class system, let's be real: It has been largely pointless in every Souls game so far, I don't think it would add anything meaningful anyways.
 
Ishan said:
Yup I do . I'm just saying as this is increasingly looking like the first next gen only game that will review welli hope all the reviewers who've been harping about "next gen gameplay" atleast point out that while this is a good game it's not doing anything super new/not possible last gen

. I mean there are true next gen moments (m64 gta3 etc) but those are far and few inbetween . Just saying the outlets/sites clamouring for a"true next gen" fix better justify why this is . Or at least acknowledge it's not but just a good game etc etc whichever way it turns out
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I guess I just don't understand why you'd care. Anyone who complains about next-gen gameplay should be immediately disregarded as a games journalist, because they're complaining about things that don't exist.
 
Not a review, but the second-from-last line is

'And if you've been watching this generation from the sidelines, unmoved by the remasters and rush jobs while you wait for the first essential to arrive, now's the time'. The last line is even better: 'As if there was ever any doubt, Miyazaki and his team have done it all over again'.

So it looks like people might just be buying a PS4 for Bloodborne, afterall.
 
Ishan said:
Can someone please explain to me . (And this is coming from a sony fan) Are we expecting most sites to review this very well without bringing up . Where is the next gen gameplay ?

Btw for the record I'm pretty sure this will review well (good track record previews etc) but I personally don't see what's being done in this game that couldn't be done on last gen . (Disregarding graphics because we always do that it seems)

So if this reviews super well without it's online introducing something super unique or without many reviewrs atleast bringing up next gen gameplay it would just illustrate a very silly expectation ppl have built up .
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If what the game offers is incredibly polished, it doesn't really matter if it doesn't have next gen gameplay. I'm not saying that we shouldn't have innovation, but a great gaming experience doesn't always mean it has to innovate greatly. Good game design often goes a lot further to engage. (see Last of Us, Shovel Knight, and most GOTYs in recent memory)
 
Koobion said:
I would say that the inclusion of the procedurally generated dungeon could possibly be seen as a "next gen" feature. And perhaps how the coop works now with private rooms. It's easy to say that this could all be done on last gen, but I honestly don't know what you expect. I want more of the same, with smoother gameplay, better graphics, and larger worlds; this is what we're getting.

It's not as if they would revolutionize how you play games with Bloodborne. People want more Souls - not something drastically different. We're also at a point where hardware won't suddenly open up new ways to play based on power alone, outside of external things like VR. That's where the extra power of the new system can come into play.
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Oh I'm not expecting more myself by my original post I meant that ppl (aka review outlets) constantly clamouring for "next gen next gen gameplay" need to realize it's mostly an evolution . It seems some of you took it to mean me saying bloodborne is bad. I meant by the looks of it bloodborne is good and at an evolution (aggressive benefits/procedural dungeons /improved graphics) you know what you would expect of a new improved version . But lately many sites have been critiquing many games as not having and "next gen" gameplay . I'm sure most of these sites will love bloodborne . Was just pointing out the hypocrisy in that .
 
StrongBlackVine said:
No. Being excited and hopeful is part of the fun.
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We all know the affects of hype when it isn't hopeful and exciting anymore. It become trains and waves of disappointment. Being level headed is much much better.

Zaventem said:
That's willful depreciating of something you want to push you pver the top with hype when it does get the score you secretly want.
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Some people need depreciation to get by. If that's what it takes to stay hopeful of good scores then so be it. Too much hype is destructive and can lead to irrational hate.
 
Oh wow, having a review embargo drop so early makes my hype jump up so much. From/Sony must be very confident.

...and I thought I was already at max hype.
 
bigjig said:
Wow I remember the Project Beast hype thread here like it was yesterday and now it's almost upon us. Time to get my PS4 ordered methinks :P
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Kenzodielocke said:
yes, it's been a hell of ride. From the first webm to now.
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That day when the first webm leaked, GAF went totally crazy. Hype, hope, and tears of joy were all over the thread. Really one hell of a ride.
Tillbo said:
They drop items and shards to upgrade weapons
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That mean weapon now will be hand placed and the location of where they found will hold more significance than ever. Good.
 
Does anybody know if a digital subscription means I get the magazine today...?

I buy it every month anyway but damn it I want to read this article now!

I'd been worried that this was gonna go the way of most of the other Sony exclusives.
 
Tillbo said:
Well, the only negative thing coming out of this pseudo review is they have a few worries about potential replayability as there is no class system and enemies no longer drop weapons/gear.

However, they do claim to be over 40 hours in and the end isn’t in sight and there is also a brand new mechanic that they are forbidden from discussing. Also, longevity will apparently come from procedurally generated Chalice Dungeons but these weren't working in their build yet.
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Surely bosses must drop some interesting stuff ?
 
scoobs said:
I guess I just don't understand why you'd care. Anyone who complains about next-gen gameplay should be immediately disregarded as a games journalist, because they're complaining about things that don't exist.
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We all know this will not be the case though. If the criticism is going to be used, it's time it's actually explained. Waiting for it doesn't make sense because at that point, because we would all know it's fueled by bias.

As if it already isn't tbh.
 
Less than 2 weeks away.

Curious to what's going to be patched day 1. On the one hand I don't like patches, on the other hand they might've gotten a few bug notes from the around 100 reviewers and put in some last minute updates for an even smoother experience.

And with that one month delay, I hope it's gonna be smooth like a snail sliding down a lubricated slide.
 
Mutombo said:
Less than 2 weeks away.

Curious to what's going to be patched day 1. On the one hand I don't like patches, on the other hand they might've gotten a few bug notes from the around 100 reviewers and put in some last minute updates for an even smoother experience.

And with that one month delay, I hope it's gonna be smooth like a snail sliding down a lubricated slide.
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From games aren't know for stellar performance /technical expertise . Their forte is gameplay . Would maybe par back on the smoothness expectations ;p. but who knows with the japan studio involvement
 
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