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Edge Magazine Review Scores | #415 November 2025 ( Mafia TOC; MGSΔSE; Shinobi AoV ...)
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Magic Carpet
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Herdling got a 7?
Sounds about right. I knocked 2 entire points off myself just for the washed out no HDR no contrast graphics.
Sounds about right. I knocked 2 entire points off myself just for the washed out no HDR no contrast graphics.
Judge Magister
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mgsd gets a7 and on point?????????????????????????
Should be lower, yes, just for the horrible tech state
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its trying to introduce new people to the series
Judge Magister
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and this why edge is trash
SEGAvangelist
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All video games media is trash.
falconhoof
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Sword of the Sea getting a 7 is good then.
March Climber
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The biggest, surprising score here is Mafia 4. I've heard some very scathing things about that game's structure and combat.
They gave Immortals of Aveum a 5 so this was as expected.
They gave Immortals of Aveum a 5 so this was as expected.
March Climber
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Agreed 100%. Konami should have given them the greenlight to change more.Edge says "if you don't care about graphics go play the original"
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They left in the area-to-area transitions for crying out loud. That was clearly a PS2 limitation choice and not an artistic one.
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Lionel Richie
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... By remaking THE THIRD game in a continuous series?
And no, NO ONE should play MGS in chronological order.
this is a straight up 1:1 remake, those should not deserve more
Gamer_By_Proxy
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Whats wrong with echos of the end? Looks alright to me. like a 6 or 7 at least.
March Climber
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Well, depending on how well this game sells, the new fans might end up doing just that. I'm anticipating a "Metal Gear Solid Gamma" or "Metal Gear Solid Alpha" announcement within the next few years.
Just subtract 2 or 3 for Edge scores.
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Judge Magister
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With all respect for Edge i don't want a reenvisioning.
The choice was to make a 1:1 and not f* up with what Kojima made.
If the game feels exactly like i'm playing the original with better graphics, don't tell me to go replay the original.
Having said that i agree that wider areas, no loadings would be a more modern experience.
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It's literally a remake.
that is subjective.
dude there is no load at all it goes from a black screen to gameplay immediately.
March Climber
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I don't want a full reimagining either. I just wanted a bit more than the bare minimum. Connecting the areas instead of keeping the loading screen transitions should qualify under that.
I was actually shocked that no insiders spoke out against it during preview events.
They shouldn't exist in the first place. C'mon R rkofan87 you at least have to meet me halfway there lol. We both are MGS 3 fans here but it was an odd development decision.
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i get it i can tell you something we can see eye to eye on mgs4 60fps or death.
March Climber
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I fully agree. Right now we are at a crossroads though.
Konami could either try and figure out how to get MGS4 running on modern systems and PC without using fan-made emulators, or they could have Virtuous do what they just did with MGS3, but for MGS 4.
You will get a superior method of control and aiming, a slightly better moving (less stiff) Snake, a new quick menu system for camo, much faster loading screens, and a new version of MGO with a new name behind it.
If you don't care about any of this, then don't bother, because everything else is literally the same, level layout/voice acting and all, with altered color grading.
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SJRB
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And it adds nothing to the experience except for a graphical upgrade. They had 1000000 ways to enhance the experience and they did nothing. Zero.
A 7/10 is generous.
Judge Magister
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The game feels like you're playing the original with better graphics plus QoL stuff and bonus content. If you like 3, you like Δ simple as that.
If they changed, people would be all over it saying Konami destroyed Kojima's vision. Me too by the way.
I may agree that Edge is better served by playing FF7 Remake Trilogy and having fun with Aerith and Zack.
If they changed, people would be all over it saying Konami destroyed Kojima's vision. Me too by the way.
I may agree that Edge is better served by playing FF7 Remake Trilogy and having fun with Aerith and Zack.
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Kacho
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Oh it's one of those games. It's amazing how easy it is to spot them when you see them.
"Echoes of the End is the epitome of a serviceable but ultimately underwhelming PS Plus or Game Pass fodder game."
there are some quality of life improvements that are not in HD Collection
xenosys
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Whether you like it or not, FF7Remake so far is the only remake series to have actually done something interesting and creative with it's OG entry.
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March Climber
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xenosys
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Looking through a lot of the reviews, most seem to be deducting points for it being a creatively dull straight 1:1 remake.
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Kacho
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I guess if I was it worked with you.Kacho Why did you quote yourself just to bring culture war talking points into the discussion? No one is even defending that game lol.
Are you fishing for replies?
But no, I was just answering my own question and quoting myself for context. Doing my own research as they say. Nothing to have a meltdown over.
Judge Magister
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Very creative indeed.
I prefer Resident Evil 2/4 or even Shadow of the Colossus if we're talking remakes. Just a preference.
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March Climber
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No worries and no meltdown man. It wasn't the game that made me reply, it's just that your post to yourself almost made me spit my drink out
I guess if you want to count mine sure, it will be a free +1.
Kacho
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I wasn't the only one asking what it was. It was more educational. Not stirring up shit. The slop speaks for itself and has already come and gone. Wasn't even worthy of controversy. Brutal!No worries and no meltdown man. It wasn't the game that made me reply, it's just that your post to yourself almost made me spit my drink out
I guess if you want to count mine sure, it will be a free +1.
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Al Pachinko, Konami President
Oh it's one of those games. It's amazing how easy it is to spot them when you see them.
"Echoes of the End is the epitome of a serviceable but ultimately underwhelming PS Plus or Game Pass fodder game."
Dr. Suchong
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Every issue of Edge I own (Issue 14 to present)
Thumbing through a few today.
It really is remarkable how dull it has become, such a dry, joyless slog.
Anyone who regularly reads Edge, knows that the reviews are the least of it's problems.
falconhoof
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Every issue of Edge I own (Issue 14 to present)
Thumbing through a few today.
It really is remarkable how dull it has become, such a dry, joyless slog.
Anyone who regularly reads Edge, knows that the reviews are the least of it's problems.
Blimey.
I have issues 1 to ~200 then I stopped buying mags. I enjoy flicking back through old copies, especially at the previews for games that never came out.
FalconPunch
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No way drag and drive scored higher than this...