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I feel like they might've gone a little too PG-13 this episode. Kate being suicidal over a video where she's making out with dudes seems a bit over the top. And it also doesn't really feel like something that would go "viral." Feels like something you would see written by a 40 year old that doesn't know what that means.
In the first episode it is referred to as a sex tape and given what Chloe reveals about Nathan at the end of that episode, I imagined something a lot worse which would fit with her being so distressed.
Also the teacher gets creepier every episode. What kind of teacher goes into "Maybe she doth protest too much" about someone in Kate's scenario? Between that, the prize being taking a trip with a young girl of his choosing across country, and the rumors he slept with Rachel, he's getting pretty high up there on the suspect meter.
In the first episode it is referred to as a sex tape and given what Chloe reveals about Nathan at the end of that episode, I imagined something a lot worse which would fit with her being so distressed.
Also the teacher gets creepier every episode. What kind of teacher goes into "Maybe she doth protest too much" about someone in Kate's scenario? Between that, the prize being taking a trip with a young girl of his choosing across country, and the rumors he slept with Rachel, he's getting pretty high up there on the suspect meter.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
Slut shaming is pretty awful. And for someone who is as staunchly Christian and anti-sex as Kate was, a video like that was, well, condemning. Someone I know is very afraid of even cursing due to the way they were raised in the church. I could see them becoming very distraught over something like this video.
I think also the implications are there that Nathan drugged her and did worse to her than she even remembers. Surely that, while not well verbalized on the roof scene, would weigh extremely heavily on her decision to want to jump off of the roof. I will say that the way they swapped terminology from "sex tape" to her just making out with a few people was odd, but perhaps once the students had a chance to tame hype a little, they saw the video for what it actually was. Everyone was curious to know.
As for the teacher, everything you said is spot on. I decided to stay after he took his call and the little snippets of dialog sounded even more potentially incriminating considering how strangely he acted about Kate just moments before. Could be a red herring, but signals are going off that he may not be Mister Nice Professor after all.
I'm a real human being and a real hero
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sometimes it pays off to be awfully nice to everyone
a question regarding the railtracks scene - if I didn't save Chloe does it turn out that she faked it?
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http://i.imgur.com/0iAUGqJ.jpg
sometimes it pays off to be awfully nice to everyone
a question regarding the railtracks scene - if I didn't save Chloe does it turn out that she faked it?
No, she dies. By tamper with the railtracks they mean how you solved the issue. You can send the big wheel of wire and destroy shit or you can go to the box and cut wires yourself, leaving the tracks more intact. Chloe will make like a reference like "Guess they're not making it to the lumber mill" so it'll probably impact the town financially or something.
uh ... I did both of these things without rewinding in-between, weird
I might have messed up with the wires
right, that makes sense
Well I imagine it's the giant wire that takes precedent since it destroys both the cable box and the manual switch.
This episode was even more fulfilling than I would have imagined, holy freaking crap. Saved Kate, got with Warren, got Nathan's punk ass suspended. boom.
But it seems like Madsen lost his job and Jefferson left anyway?? It's gonna be really interesting to see where this goes.
I wanted to do another playthrough where I chose totally different things, but I couldn't stand Kate dying.
But it seems like Madsen lost his job and Jefferson left anyway?? It's gonna be really interesting to see where this goes.
I wanted to do another playthrough where I chose totally different things, but I couldn't stand Kate dying.
This eopisode made me dislike Chloe while I was interested in her in episode 1 now I would like Max to avoid her.
My though about Rachel case :
- Cliché scénario -
She fell in love with the professor but he didn't wanted a serious relationship and got into an accident with her. He told the principal to help him cover up his murder.
- Twisted scénario -
Nathan is drugging girls but not only for himself during Vortex party, a third party is getting also the girls and happens to kill them when things turn bad. Yeah, I'm talking abot human traffics here because of the sad face of Veronica and Nathan at the end.
- Mid scenario -
Rachel was drugged at the Vortex party but was able to left it.
While going back to her room she met the professor who wanted to bang her but she said no. They fought and she die. The professor is asking the principal to cover this "incident" for him otherwise the reputation of the school will be damaded with ther headling "Famous professor murdering a student".
The Vortex club are the last witnesses to have seen Rachel alive but won't say anything because of the drugs.
But who them is keeping the red files ?
Usually when you see files like that in a movie, it's always a serial killer who do that or a cop or a stalker. If it's bad person, I bet on professor but it might be a too dark scenario if we're adding serial killer+natural disaster, lol.
- she doesn't like when Max doesn't play the super best fest friend role.
I'm sorry but Max didn't needed to go out of her hideout (EP 1) to take the blame of the cigarette.
Max didn't need to shoot at somedy to proove her frienship (Ep 2) while she could just rewind time.
Chloe wants Max to show aboslute loyalty toward her otherwise she will be piss of.
Kate was more in need of help and support than her in this episode.
- I'm not conftoable with someone who is playing around with a gun in a junkyard and trying to influence her friend into her game.
- I don't think Rachel was a good influence on Chloe, just look how she turned out.
I'm sorry but Max didn't needed to go out of her hideout (EP 1) to take the blame of the cigarette.
Max didn't need to shoot at somedy to proove her frienship (Ep 2) while she could just rewind time.
Chloe wants Max to show aboslute loyalty toward her otherwise she will be piss of.
Kate was more in need of help and support than her in this episode.
- I'm not conftoable with someone who is playing around with a gun in a junkyard and trying to influence her friend into her game.
- I don't think Rachel was a good influence on Chloe, just look how she turned out.
My though about Rachel case :
- Cliché scénario -
She fell in love with the professor but he didn't wanted a serious relationship and got into an accident with her. He told the principal to help him cover up his murder.
- Twisted scénario -
Nathan is drugging girls but not only for himself during Vortex party, a third party is getting also the girls and happens to kill them when things turn bad. Yeah, I'm talking abot human traffics here because of the sad face of Veronica and Nathan at the end.
- Mid scenario -
Rachel was drugged at the Vortex party but was able to left it.
While going back to her room she met the professor who wanted to bang her but she said no. They fought and she die. The professor is asking the principal to cover this "incident" for him otherwise the reputation of the school will be damaded with ther headling "Famous professor murdering a student".
The Vortex club are the last witnesses to have seen Rachel alive but won't say anything because of the drugs.
But who them is keeping the red files ?
Usually when you see files like that in a movie, it's always a serial killer who do that or a cop or a stalker. If it's bad person, I bet on professor but it might be a too dark scenario if we're adding serial killer+natural disaster, lol.
chrominance
Member
That reminds me. So far, we've seen that David's been taking photographs of Kate, right?
Near the beginning of the episode, after you leave the girl's dorms, you run into the groundskeeper feeding animals and stuff. He leaves the door to the back room open. If you go in there and look around a bit, you'll find a stack of photos of RACHEL in there. Max comments on this, wondering why on earth he has photos of Rachel.
It might be a red herring, because up until now we've had no real reason to suspect that guy. Although it occurs to me that Principal Woods tore David a new one for not making sure the door to the roof was locked. Who else might be in a position to leave that door unlocked?
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Any chance this will get a retail release on console (like RE: Revelations 2 did) once all episodes are done? I'm really interested but I don't do digital...
chrominance
Member
Nothing has been announced yet, but Square Enix has said they're open to the possibility.
As an aside: you know this is the spoiler thread, right? There's also a non-spoiler OT if you came here by mistake.
enigmatic_alex44
Whenever a game uses "middleware," I expect mediocrity. Just see how poor TLOU looks.
Ah thanks! lmao I did come here by mistake but that's hopeful news (especially after finding out Devil May Cry 4 won't be getting a retail release at all in NA).
I didn't even realize Square Enix was the publisher!
I got that vibe from the call too, but the more I listened to it the more it sounded like the precursor to a divorce/break up.
Most of the issues with Chloe this episode are a result of the hamfisted way the devs are trying to handle the "Oh man your choices matter!" stuff. It's especially apparent in the phone call scene where she acts like a clingy lunatic that you're answering a call in her presence. Given the amount of time spent with her they use her to prop up the gameplay and I don't think they've put enough thought into it. With her chastising you for your choices generally and then going back to being normal, or the demand for the bottles, she seems bossy and bipolar.
I don't think they're meaning for the character to come off that way, they just are struggling with how to supply the player with information and the idea that the choices matter. They need to dial back on it big time.
I don't think they're meaning for the character to come off that way, they just are struggling with how to supply the player with information and the idea that the choices matter. They need to dial back on it big time.
MaximumSpider
Banned
Now I gotta wait until May
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FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKK ;_;
Looks like I'm one of the very few that threw Mr. Jefferson under the bus.
That conversation he had before class was a little suspicious. But, what's more, he's the only person I could see taking the fall without tremendous repercussions. Yes, he is banned from a contest. But he's sees the bigger picture, and he lost my trust once he started blaming Kate and pushing her around. She is a victim and she was exhibiting clear suicidal tendencies. Mr. Jefferson should have recognized that and not pushed so hard.
I couldn't possibly blame Nathan. I saved Kate by telling her we were waiting to gather more evidence. Imagine how disloyal I'd seem if I then immediately blamed Nathan without any substantial evidence! She's fragile enough. I'm not going to stand up to Nathan until I have irrefutable evidence, and until Kate is ready.
If I blame Mr. Madsen, then I put Chloe in danger, and I lose a friend in Joyce. Furthermore, I'm still uncertain of Mr. Madsen's angle. Is he truly evil? Or is he the overprotective (deeply-flawed) military man who is trying to figure out something bigger? Clearly, he is really concerned about something from all his videos and photography, but what it is that he's scared of I can't tell.
I'm excited that this episode has so many possible avenues! I'm happy how my first playthrough turned out (got all the extra photos and saved Kate), so we'll keep it as the prime save until next episode.
Also, I'm trying my hardest to friendzone Warren. He's clearly meant for Brooke.
That conversation he had before class was a little suspicious. But, what's more, he's the only person I could see taking the fall without tremendous repercussions. Yes, he is banned from a contest. But he's sees the bigger picture, and he lost my trust once he started blaming Kate and pushing her around. She is a victim and she was exhibiting clear suicidal tendencies. Mr. Jefferson should have recognized that and not pushed so hard.
I couldn't possibly blame Nathan. I saved Kate by telling her we were waiting to gather more evidence. Imagine how disloyal I'd seem if I then immediately blamed Nathan without any substantial evidence! She's fragile enough. I'm not going to stand up to Nathan until I have irrefutable evidence, and until Kate is ready.
If I blame Mr. Madsen, then I put Chloe in danger, and I lose a friend in Joyce. Furthermore, I'm still uncertain of Mr. Madsen's angle. Is he truly evil? Or is he the overprotective (deeply-flawed) military man who is trying to figure out something bigger? Clearly, he is really concerned about something from all his videos and photography, but what it is that he's scared of I can't tell.
I'm excited that this episode has so many possible avenues! I'm happy how my first playthrough turned out (got all the extra photos and saved Kate), so we'll keep it as the prime save until next episode.
Also, I'm trying my hardest to friendzone Warren. He's clearly meant for Brooke.
Dice//
Banned
Yeah generally the chime and the butterfly icon is enough to make me realize "it matters!". Hell I went OoooOooo when I just watered the freaking plant.
But yeah, Chloe is awful this episode. I don't see her and Max much of a fit at all. It wasn't realistic at all and she came off like a bitch. Worse is when Max's dialogue doesn't match up: Y'know like "Sorry Chloe, this girl is depressed as F lately, gimme 10 seconds"
I actually like the pics. Some of these events I didn't even know to look out for (and I missed the Alyssa one somehow...ah well).
I get where you're coming from, but I don't really blame Chloe for the way she behaves since I think it's out of fear of losing her best friend again. Max abruptly left Chloe's life and Chloe's been alone and hurting ever since Rachel went missing, so far Max is the only one who's been able to take the pain away for her, so when that friend starts giving a bunch of attention to someone else I don't blame her for getting a bit jealous because who else does she have? Her mom? David? Max is all Chloe has right now and I don't think her being scared and angry at the thought of losing her again is too unreasonable, though I agree that it comes off as a bit odd
OniBarubary
Banned
They're making Samuel so obviously a serial killer or responsible for this stuff that I refuse to believe it's him
gordon1470
Member
Ep 2 Spoilers:
GHOST DEER
Also, I told Kate to contact the police, but nothing seems to come of that. Future episode? Still saved her.
Tizoc
Member
mY FRIEnd is coming back from the UK this week. I played all of WAU at his place when we hung out last time.
Gonna do the same with Life is Strange. He's so gonna hate me when he learns how long he must wait for me to play the 3rd ep. XP
In a future playthrough I'll aim to save Kate, but I'm surprised I am of the few who did help Warren with the science thing
Gonna do the same with Life is Strange. He's so gonna hate me when he learns how long he must wait for me to play the 3rd ep. XP
In a future playthrough I'll aim to save Kate, but I'm surprised I am of the few who did help Warren with the science thing
I thought it was a glitch, at first and was so confused, their is some weird supernatural shit going on that's for sure.
Fuck Nathan.
I know I am probably going to get Max killed by trying to pile it on him and Victoria every chance I get, but I want to see him burn.
I thought I had helped him because he made a big and cool potassium explosion. Apparently that was not the point of the assignment. I should be less surprised.
I just said that the game was keeping track of me killing the plant since Max said the liquid had electrolytes, lol
I know I am probably going to get Max killed by trying to pile it on him and Victoria every chance I get, but I want to see him burn.
In a future playthrough I'll aim to save Kate, but I'm surprised I am of the few who did help Warren with the science thing
I thought I had helped him because he made a big and cool potassium explosion. Apparently that was not the point of the assignment. I should be less surprised.
I just said that the game was keeping track of me killing the plant since Max said the liquid had electrolytes, lol
This might be plausible but I think you are putting more thought into this than the writers. They don't realize they have a needy and clingy character in Chloe, it only ever comes across in GRAND DESTINY moments. Max doesn't react to any of this behavior despite that we can hear her thoughts and read her journal.
Pretty sure you're not the one to declare what the writers do and don't know
Yes, the fact that nobody treats the character that way and Max treats Chloe as a totally normal character is in no way an indicator of the character. The text in the game does not support that they are trying to make her that way.
I mean, they totally wanted people to think Chloe was a bossy drag with the obnoxious bottle gathering moment which is the way a lot of people are receiving her in the OT. Despite all the "Oh man we're having so much fun" scenes that surround it. Totally man.
Or maybe, they wanted people to decide for themselves? Tada.
gordon1470
Member
Tizoc
Member
Yup even the
doe/deer itself looked ghostly/transparent. I even knew that if I were to take a picture nothing would show up
They're definitely foreshadowing the tornado dreams bleeding into reality, I can imagine Max starting to go insane by the last episode
It's weird. It seemed like I was so close to saving Kate, she even said, "Okay, I'll step off the edge for you" and then in the next exchange, she was back to being distraught and finally jumped. I don't think that was handled very well.
(I also kinda wish that Chloe was the one who jumped as I don't like her much. Doubt that was the creator's intent.
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(I also kinda wish that Chloe was the one who jumped as I don't like her much. Doubt that was the creator's intent.
)Tigersprite
Member
Wait, is agreeing to go to the movies with Warren agreeing to a date? People have made posts implying that but I just thought that hey, an Apes marathon sounds awesome.
JehutyRunner
Banned
cormack12
Gold Member
cormack12
Gold Member
Probably best to post thoughts in here now there's a spoiler thread - this doesn't contain speculation/leaks about episode 3 right? Anyhow cross posting from |OT| for now:
I've just replayed some collectible stuff and I think I now realise what that scene is relative to....(boxfile scene with craft knife, paints and artwork)
The framing indicates to me that someone is already prepping a 'Missing' poster for Kate, or will be using her picture in a fingerprinted catalogue (hence the scene playing whether Kate lives or dies). Indicates that certain 'girls' are being watched/monitored or even targeted.
I thought the additional scene with Samuel was kind of odd. Having the posed photos of Rachel, but then a box full of shades and women's magazines. I must admit I did think the boxfiles resembled the ones in his janitors closet thing on second reflection but you don't get a clear shot of them.
Nathan was slightly too cocky as well when saying 'have you seen the video?' to Max in the office, made me think. Also, it's been 'taken down' on the URL - is this meant to be relative to the game (as in the uploader at Blackwell has also taken it down?), or just because they didn't want to render the scene?
I think we're going to see more limitations now in future episodes. Like, we're not going to be able to change everything. There will be a limit on our power usage, which means we'll have to be more conservative when choosing what to alter.
Still liking it, lip sync bothered me more in this episode but was passable.
My choices so far:
Chrysalis (main) | (additional)
Out of Time (main) | (additional)
I've just replayed some collectible stuff and I think I now realise what that scene is relative to....(boxfile scene with craft knife, paints and artwork)
The framing indicates to me that someone is already prepping a 'Missing' poster for Kate, or will be using her picture in a fingerprinted catalogue (hence the scene playing whether Kate lives or dies). Indicates that certain 'girls' are being watched/monitored or even targeted.
I thought the additional scene with Samuel was kind of odd. Having the posed photos of Rachel, but then a box full of shades and women's magazines. I must admit I did think the boxfiles resembled the ones in his janitors closet thing on second reflection but you don't get a clear shot of them.
Nathan was slightly too cocky as well when saying 'have you seen the video?' to Max in the office, made me think. Also, it's been 'taken down' on the URL - is this meant to be relative to the game (as in the uploader at Blackwell has also taken it down?), or just because they didn't want to render the scene?
I think we're going to see more limitations now in future episodes. Like, we're not going to be able to change everything. There will be a limit on our power usage, which means we'll have to be more conservative when choosing what to alter.
Still liking it, lip sync bothered me more in this episode but was passable.
My choices so far:
Chrysalis (main) | (additional)
Out of Time (main) | (additional)
okay I didn't expect that, heh
btw, during the ending credits, was that Nathan in the car who Ray was talking to?
I think that was the professor.
I don't like Chloe at all. She's that type of friend who only thinks about herself. 'Everyone is letting me down!" Well, grab a tissue and cry in a corner. I think she knows way more about what happened to Rachel. Maybe thats why she is all screwed up now. I mean she wanted me to shoot Frank? Kill a person? WTF.
the person who pulled a knife on her? not seeing how that's unreasonable
Well Frank was threatening Chloe with a knife so if I were in the same situation I would expect my friend who has a gun at hand to at least try to do something. I think the Rachel stuff she pretty much says all you need to know on EP1. They both wanted to leave Arcadia Bay and there might be more reasons as to why they wanted to leave besides not liking the town.
Well she might be putting out the tough girl act just to keep Max less worried about the situation.
she also mentions she's glad the situation turned out the way it did when you don't attempt shoot him
I checked again, he looks like the professor, yup
QuickSilverD
Member
Anyone has a theory on Frank, he had Rachel's bracelet which Chloe assume he stole, but what if he didn't? we know that Rachel "met someone" before disappearing, there is a note in their hideout that confirms as much (and the note uses the male pronoun "he" so we know is a guy she met).
I mean, we assume that something bad happened to Rachel, that she's dead, but what if she just ran away with somebody, what if she got pregnant and is too ashamed to look bad? (probably not)
Don't know why, but something inside me tells me Frank will turn out to be an ok guy in the end, even thought we have not seen him in a good like, but he has a dog, and as we all know people who are good to dogs can't be bad people
I mean, we assume that something bad happened to Rachel, that she's dead, but what if she just ran away with somebody, what if she got pregnant and is too ashamed to look bad? (probably not)
Don't know why, but something inside me tells me Frank will turn out to be an ok guy in the end, even thought we have not seen him in a good like, but he has a dog, and as we all know people who are good to dogs can't be bad people
there's also the homeless women behind the dinner that saw Rachel with an older man
I don't suspect Frank is really involved in Rachel's disappearance though, it's too obvious