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[Korosenai]

I had no idea during the direct for the trailer that it was for this game. It wasn't even until an hour or so later that i was on youtube and saw the trailer listed as SMT x FE.... blew my mind and i'm super hyped.

 

[zeopower6]

People are acting like its a DOA trailer with the fanservice knocks.

gurl, for something that is SMTxFE, it is.

Have you SEEN the amount of Rule34 stuff these franchises spawned? Especially Awakening. The correct answer here is yes.

Well, a big part of that game was Waifus and most of the discussion I heard about it when people played it a ton was about which one they chose. However, I think FE being waifucentric to the mainstream is a really recent thing.

 

[ash321]

Have you SEEN the amount of Rule34 stuff these franchises spawned? Especially Awakening. The correct answer here is yes.

Pretty sure his point is: " FE don't just have AW, Smt don't just have Persona".

 

[Ray Down]

OPM isn't even a anime yet, and I doubt it could capture ONE art style.

Tokyo Ghoul anime is bad compared to manga.

But this is off-topic so let's drop it.

 

[-Horizon-]

So basically the overall mold of the game is supposed to be Shin Megami Tensei such as modern setting and summoning demons, but in this case the "demons" are Fire Emblem characters? Are there any concrete SMT connections from what we've seen aside from the conceptual stuff?

I don't know how to feel about the setting. I love Fire Emblem, SMT, and Persona so I play a lot of "anime" games, but even then this seemed too far for me. I went crazy watching the Persona 5 reveal, but this one turned me off even though there are elements in common (High school students leading a double life, etc.) and I can't really put my finger on it. (music definitely didn't help)

I mean, there are ruins of a city near the end of the trailer if that's what you're looking for.

 

[casiopao]

3 series.........

This season alone, we are getting Arslan Senki and Fate series u know? Last season Kiseijuu is also damn perfect.

Just go watch the savior of anime Hunter x Hunter 2011. Best anime eva. Pitouuuuuuuuuuu. Hngghhhhhhh.

 

[Nanashrew]

Have you SEEN the amount of Rule34 stuff these franchises spawned? Especially Awakening. The correct answer here is yes.

Nintendo franchises in general spawn a lot of rule34.

 

[Mik317]

3 series.........

there obviously more than that..

come on don't be dense.

The thing with ANY medium is that there is a lot of junk you have to to dig through to get to the gems. Anime in general is diverse as fuck. Yes there are a shitton of moe uguuuu senpai stuff to go around but there are also tons of other stuff as well. And hell even some of said moe uguuu senpai (btw I'm making this series do not steal...gonna be rich) stuff is actually pretty frickin good or not exactly what it seems.

It's like saying Rap is nothing but guns and hos and violence. It is a shitty and lazy description of a genre/meduim.

 

[Sou Da]

Have you SEEN the amount of Rule34 stuff these franchises spawned? Especially Awakening. The correct answer here is yes.

That doesn't make it a "waifu" franchise, FE may be going down that path to get them easy sales but I wouldn't say SMT is.

 

[bomblord1]

gurl, for something that is SMTxFE, it is.

So

This

X

This

 

[HK-47]

So

This

X

This

Genki Yandere Idol Witches: The Garme

 

[ash321]

So

This

X

This

SMT not equal Persona guys.

 

[bomblord1]

Genki Yandere Idol Witches: The Garme

XD

SMT not equal Persona guys.

I thought persona was a spin off series?

 

[jnWake]

I'd have liked the trailer to be a bit less... uh, simpler. I understood nothing about the gameplay haha. I'm surprised at all the backlash though, but this community has been overly sensitive about "fanservice" for quite a while.

Spoiler

I honestly barely noticed it at first (probably because I understood nothing while watching the trailer haha).

 

[Ray Down]

This season alone, we are getting Arslan Senki and Fate series u know? Last season Kiseijuu is also damn perfect.

Just go watch the savior of anime Hunter x Hunter 2011. Best anime eva. Pitouuuuuuuuuuu. Hngghhhhhhh.

I have no interest in it, due to me reading the manga already.

Although to bad the series at this rate will never be completed.

 

[Ricky 7]

In a world where OPM, Tokyo ghoul and Attack on Titan exist ? It's already did.

What's OPM?

 

[zeopower6]

Nintendo franchises in general spawn a lot of rule34.

-looks at Wii Fit Trainers-....

(oh god, that happened)

 

[Overside]

So basically the overall mold of the game is supposed to be Shin Megami Tensei such as modern setting and summoning demons, but in this case the "demons" are Fire Emblem characters? Are there any concrete SMT connections from what we've seen aside from the conceptual stuff?

I don't know how to feel about the setting. I love Fire Emblem, SMT, and Persona so I play a lot of "anime" games, but even then this seemed too far for me. I went crazy watching the Persona 5 reveal, but this one turned me off even though there are elements in common (High school students leading a double life, etc.) and I can't really put my finger on it. (music definitely didn't help)

I dont really follow persona, and never cared much for smt, but I got the feeling the 'fire emblem' characters were more the 'personas' of real life normal/non cyber pegasus riding, sentient/self aware breast possessing counterparts, than smt style demons.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

So

This

Please stop with the Persona. SMT is not Persona.

I thought persona was a spin off series?

Yes (well, more of a spin-off of a spin-off from SMT if...), but "SMTxFE" implicated the main series. Which is why everyone who appeared in the announcement trailer is from the main series. "Shin Megami Tensei" was never appended to the Persona name in Japan.

 

[Fou-Lu]

I personally thought this trailer looked awesome. Really interested in how the battle system and everything works.

 

[Sou Da]

I'd have liked the trailer to be a bit less... uh, simpler. I understood nothing about the gameplay haha. I'm surprised at all the backlash though, but this community has been overly sensitive about "fanservice" for quite a while.

Spoiler

I honestly barely noticed it at first (probably because I understood nothing while watching the trailer haha).

What a terrible way to marginalize people's gripes about the game's trailer.

 

[ash321]

What's OPM?

One punch man ?

 

[jwhit28]

gurl, for something that is SMTxFE, it is.



Well, a big part of that game was Waifus and most of the discussion I heard about it when people played it a ton was about which one they chose. However, I think FE being waifucentric to the mainstream is a really recent thing.

There have been waifu/best girl arguments about FE long before Awakening. Lyn usually wins.

 

[bomblord1]

-looks at Wii Fii Trainers-....

Nintendo seriously dropped the ball by not calling Nintendo WFC Wii Fii

 

[Ray Down]

What's OPM?

One Punch Man.

 

[Kinsei]

XD



I thought persona was a spin off series?

Nope. The SMT label was slapped on when the game was localized to help it get more sales.

 

[LX_Theo]

I'd have liked the trailer to be a bit less... uh, simpler. I understood nothing about the gameplay haha. I'm surprised at all the backlash though, but this community has been overly sensitive about "fanservice" for quite a while.

Spoiler

I honestly barely noticed it at first (probably because I understood nothing while watching the trailer haha).

Honestly, I wouldn't even really call it fanservice.

Its more just costume design being the traditional Japanese styled silly on a number of occasions.

 

[catmario]

Is this will be Turn based RPG like Super mario RPG series? or like Shin megami tensei sereis?

I want latter one. Not Hand busy input game.

 

[Kyou]

Please stop with the Persona. SMT is not Persona.

it says Shin Megami Tensei on the cover

in fact it's the first thing it says

 

[zeopower6]

Nintendo seriously dropped the ball by not calling Nintendo WFC Wii Fii

lol, accidentally typoed the T in trainer. :<

 

[FluxWaveZ]

it says Shin Megami Tensei on the cover

in fact it's the first thing it says

Never in Japan, and not for anything past Persona 4 in North America (because Atlus realized the Persona brand had become big enough that it was no longer warranted).

 

[-Horizon-]

Is this will be Turn based RPG like Super mario RPG series? or like Shin megami tensei sereis?

I want latter one. Not Hand busy input game.

Looks turn based like where you can cut in front of the enemy to take their turn or push their turn further down the line.
There's a screenshot with the turn phase line and which character is attacking when.

 

[Nanashrew]

-looks at Wii Fii Trainers-....

My favorite Pokemon is Sandshrew and there's not a lot of fanart of him. There are things I have never wanted to see when trying to find cool fanart.

 

[Zebetite]

it says Shin Megami Tensei on the cover

in fact it's the first thing it says

Yeah, in America. Japan has never had the words "Shin" or "Tensei" appear in a Persona game's title. Only Megami Ibunroku, and they eventually dropped that as well.

 

[ash321]

it says Shin Megami Tensei on the cover

in fact it's the first thing it says

It's a spin off game, it doesn't represent the franchise as a whole.

 

[Jawmuncher]

Its ridiculous that Nintendo can't think of a name in North America. I half expect them to call it Illusionary Revelations in the west but just throwing on the box somewhere
"Including characters from Fire Emblem and SMT."

 

[bomblord1]

It's a spin off game, it's not represent the franchise as a whole.

But just like a square is a rectangle can a Persona not be a Shin Megami Tensei?

Nope. The SMT label was slapped on when the game was localized to help it get more sales.

Oh, they have absolutely nothing in common at all?

 

[Mik317]

This seems to be more of a the SMT guys make a game with FE characters/lore.

That's a good thing, no?

 

[Blooddimond]

Its ridiculous that Nintendo can't think of a name in North America. I half expect them to call it Illusionary Revelations in the west but just throwing on the box somewhere
"Including characters from Fire Emblem and SMT."

I know just the logo to put it in.

 

[Box]

The lack of enthusiasm only partly comes from this supposedly being SMTxFE. In fact, when I watched the trailer, I didn't even think it was SMTxFE and I still thought it looked bad. Really, I don't see how you could be into that trailer unless you're DEEP into anime stuff.

It didn't help that the trailer didn't show much that looked like actual gameplay. Usually Nintendo trailers are good at conveying what you do in the game, but I guess this just isn't a Nintendo game whatsoever.

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Looks turn based like where you can cut in front of the enemy to take their turn or push their turn further down the line.
There's a screenshot with the turn phase line and which character is attacking when.

Yep, ATB-like where enemy and character speed stats determine the order of attacks.

 

[HK-47]

Its ridiculous that Nintendo can't think of a name in North America. I half expect them to call it Illusionary Revelations in the west but just throwing on the box somewhere
"Including characters from Fire Emblem and SMT."

Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry and Raidou from that game not enough people played.

Edit: Half curse you blooddimond.

 

[Vylash]

really happy with the trailer not only because it looked awesome, but because it spawned this hot mess of a thread

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

It's like if I had a friend who I wanted to introduce to anime and show them it's actually pretty cool, this is exactly the opposite of what I'd want to show them.

To be fair, anime similar to Fire Emblem or Shin Megami Tensei aren't exactly what I'd shown to a newcomer to demonstrate the medium's virtues.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

But just like a square is a rectangle can a Persona not be a Shin Megami Tensei?

No, because in your analogy, SMT is the rectangle while Persona is the square.

 

[Astral Dog]

Never in Japan, and not for anything past Persona 4 in North America (because Atlus realized the Persona brand had become big enough that it was no longer warranted).

But, it appears this is not named SMT either, so...
it has become its own thing, for better or worse.

 

[ash321]

But just like a square is a rectangle can a Persona not be a Shin Megami Tensei?



Oh, they have absolutely nothing in common at all?

The thing is , when people talk about SMT, pretty much no one mean Persona. Persona is like a separate now anyway. They just share the demon and some of the mythos.

 

[FluxWaveZ]

But, it appears this is not named SMT either, so...
it has become its own thing, for better or worse.

I know, but that's not what I was responding to. Obviously, this game's purpose isn't to be a direct cross-over, at least not from its re-unveil plus the producer interview.

 

[Blooddimond]

Featuring Dante from Devil May Cry and Raidou from that game not enough people played.

Edit: Half curse you blooddimond.

It'd be too perfect to not do. I'll take my paycheck now Nintendo

 

[Kinsei]

Oh, they have absolutely nothing in common at all?

Not really. The demons/personas are based off the demons in SMT and that's about it. It's like saying Zelda is a Mario spinoff because chain chomps, goombas, and cheep cheeps appear in it.